Mr. T Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Cheney calls for air strike on Iran over captured drone: "Former Vice President Dick Cheney said on Monday that President Barack Obama should have ordered an 'air strike' on Iran after they recently captured a U.S. drone. Earlier on Monday, President Barack Obama had explained that U.S. officials asked Iran to return the RQ-170 Sentinel surveillance drone. 'The right response to that would have been to go in immediately after it had gone down and destroy it,' Cheney told CNN’s Erin Burnett." Source Where is wet noodles the commander and chief on this issue? This is top priority and he is on vacation again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 From what I've read on the subject, the link between the pilots and the drone went down. When this happens, the drone goes into a holding pattern until the link is reestablished, if it isn't reestablished, then it has a crash landing protocol where it will attempt to find a place to land as best it can. This is probably how it went down. If this was the case, we didn't know exactly where it crashed, plus we don't know how many Iranians in the area would have come to see the crash. If we bomb it while there are Iranians down there, is that not an act of war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 yeah, just like the Bush administration bombed China when the spy plane crash landed there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 From what I've read on the subject, the link between the pilots and the drone went down. When this happens, the drone goes into a holding pattern until the link is reestablished, if it isn't reestablished, then it has a crash landing protocol where it will attempt to find a place to land as best it can. This is probably how it went down. If this was the case, we didn't know exactly where it crashed, plus we don't know how many Iranians in the area would have come to see the crash. If we bomb it while there are Iranians down there, is that not an act of war? I have heard conflicting reports on the drone itself, and it makes you wonder if it was landed or was it crashed. US drones hacked by Iraqi insurgents source yeah, just like the Bush administration bombed China when the spy plane crash landed there? I agree, we didn't do crappola. Some believe it was a payoff to the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 T, the hack that you're talking about only allowed the iraqis to read an unencrypted video feed. The link that controls the pilots actions' to the drones is heavily encrypted, and I doubt even our supercomputers could hack it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Once the Iranians are in control of the drone there's not much we can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Once the Iranians are in control of the drone there's not much we can do about it. So if we had an idea where they were keeping it, would you go in and blow it to pieces? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofajobbrownie Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Probably not. Unless you got to it early, like when it touched down, you'd be bombing a building with lots of Iranians in it - and that's if you knew where they had it. It's not the best of options, and it kicks off lots of problems, like Hezbollah retaliation. It also requires sending a cruise missile into Iran, which is an act of war. Bombing it might have never been a viable option anyway. We don't know. Right now the problem is figuring out how they got it to land, and what that means for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 I keep wondering why the hell the drone wasn't programmed to autopilot back to base, or a pre-programmed set of coordinates, to keep it out of the hands of the enemy. Mighty expensive mistake. I can imagine the Chinese having tested an EMI from a satellite, or ground unit....or something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Cal, if the GPS goes out, which it must have if there's no link between the pilot and the craft, how do you suggest it find its way home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted December 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Iran is driving a hard bargain for granting access to the US stealth drone RQ-170 it captured undamaged last week, as Russian and Chinese military intelligence teams arriving in Tehran for a look at the secret aircraft soon found. debkafile's Moscow sources disclose that the price set by Revolutionary Guards commander Gen. Ali Jaafari includes advanced nuclear and missile technology, especially systems using solid fuel, the last word on centrifuges for enriching uranium and the S-300PMU-1 air defense system, which Moscow has consistently refused to sell Tehran. This super-weapon is effective against stealth warplanes and cruise missiles and therefore capable of seriously impairing any large-scale US or Israeli air or missile attacks on Iran's nuclear sites. Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu sent Russian-speaking Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman to Moscow on Dec. 7 to try and dissuade Prime Minister Vladimir Putin from letting Iran have the S-300 batteries as payment for access to the captured US drone. Sources in Washington report that before sending Lieberman to Moscow, Netanyahu first checked with the White House at the highest levels. Although he had his hands full with stormy demonstrations in Moscow protesting alleged election fraud, Putin received Lieberman at the Kremlin. But the interview was short. The Russian prime minister refused to discuss the episode with his Israeli guest or even confirm that Moscow was engaged in any deal with Tehran. In answer to reporters' questions, Lieberman commented: "Russia's positions on the Middle East were not helpful." American efforts to reach President Dmitry Medvedev and Putin on the drone deal through other channels were likewise rebuffed. Continue reading here US Special Forces Mass On Syrian BorderFollowing similar reports by former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, Israeli intelligence sources confirm that US Special Forces are massing in Jordan on the Syrian border having been transferred from Iraq. On Sunday Edmonds reported that hundreds of foreign troops were witnessed near the Jordanian border village of Al-Mafraq, having moved back and forth between King Hussein Air Base of al-Mafraq and villages adjacent to the Syrian border. Continue reading here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Frank_Zombo_1.jpg/220px-Frank_Zombo_1.jpg ********* Simple. Just have a mental link established automatically with a woman - the intuition will fly it right back. @@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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