jrb12711 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000094334/article/ray-edwards-cut-by-atlanta-falcons-in-surprise-move Just an example of how just signing a name in FA isn't always the best idea. Not saying it's a bad idea either depending on the situation, but these types of raw deals happen all the time it seems like. Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000094334/article/ray-edwards-cut-by-atlanta-falcons-in-surprise-move Just an example of how just signing a name in FA isn't always the best idea. Not saying it's a bad idea either depending on the situation, but these types of raw deals happen all the time it seems like. Opinions? Just signing a name? Who is Ray Edwards? He is not a name I know....so maybe they didn't really sign a name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Just signing a name? Who is Ray Edwards? He is not a name I know....so maybe they didn't really sign a name? He was an over-rated pass rusher from the Vikings that was a beneficery of their great defensive tackles. Glad we stayed away from him. But we really do need a pass rusher. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 He was an over-rated pass rusher from the Vikings that was a beneficery of their great defensive tackles. Glad we stayed away from him. But we really do need a pass rusher. Zombo Maybe having Rubin and Taylor together for the first time this year will help in that regard. Sheard has to step it up. The DT rotation of Taylor, Rubin, Winn, and The Sausage King could be quite solid. Rucker/Parker/Sheard? Not as solid. Absolutely though the Browns need that pass rusher, be it a DE or OLB. Jarvis Jones or Barkevious Mingo could look good here. (or how about Manti Teo?...more of a MLB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Daddy Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I almost guarantee we pick this dude off waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 MCK said something about Sheard getting constant double teams in the PD last weekend which is ridiculous. I haven't noticed him getting doubled once, I have however noticed him trying to do this outside speed rush constantly with failed results. He runs to the outside and the right tackles stay with him step by step. Now I don't know maybe he's being coached to do this to open up gaps or something but the guy has been really ineffective so far this year. I don't see a healthy Rubin and Taylor in there helping him much since every time I notice Sheard he's 1 on 1 with the RT outside anyhow. You got to like our depth at DT though and if a new coach comes in here next season and switches the D to a 3-4 I think our line could be pretty solid moving some of those guys to DE. Maybe Sheard would be a better pass rusher as an OLB in a 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Maybe having Rubin and Taylor together for the first time this year will help in that regard. Sheard has to step it up. The DT rotation of Taylor, Rubin, Winn, and The Sausage King could be quite solid. Rucker/Parker/Sheard? Not as solid. Absolutely though the Browns need that pass rusher, be it a DE or OLB. Jarvis Jones or Barkevious Mingo could look good here. (or how about Manti Teo?...more of a MLB) Actually I'm looking forward to what Winn can do while playing End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 MCK said something about Sheard getting constant double teams in the PD last weekend which is ridiculous. I haven't noticed him getting doubled once, I have however noticed him trying to do this outside speed rush constantly with failed results. He runs to the outside and the right tackles stay with him step by step. Now I don't know maybe he's being coached to do this to open up gaps or something but the guy has been really ineffective so far this year. I don't see a healthy Rubin and Taylor in there helping him much since every time I notice Sheard he's 1 on 1 with the RT outside anyhow. You got to like our depth at DT though and if a new coach comes in here next season and switches the D to a 3-4 I think our line could be pretty solid moving some of those guys to DE. Maybe Sheard would be a better pass rusher as an OLB in a 3-4? Fuck no, switching back and forth from a 3-4, to a 4-3, and back to a 3-4 within 4 years would be idiotic. We can't afford to rebuild the entire concept of our D every 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Actually I'm looking forward to what Winn can do while playing End. Yea, but be careful what you ask for, you might get it. Seriously, why do you think Winn would be successful at DE? Some supremely talented guys can play at DT as well as DE...like a Reggie White. Do you think Winn is of that caliber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Yea, but be careful what you ask for, you might get it. Seriously, why do you think Winn would be successful at DE? Some supremely talented guys can play at DT as well as DE...like a Reggie White. Do you think Winn is of that caliber? Was reading an article where he was projected to play some DE. He's strong, and quick. So I imagine he could provide a good outside bullrush rather than just trying to slide around the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Actually I'm looking forward to what Winn can do while playing End. Me too. Winn is so strong & athletic, I would LOVE to see him at DE. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimdawg Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Was reading an article where he was projected to play some DE. He's strong, and quick. So I imagine he could provide a good outside bullrush rather than just trying to slide around the OT. I could see him being a better DE fit in a 3-4 scheme, not sure about the 4-3 but im still interested in seeing if he could be a force on the edge IDK. Too much unknown at this point. I know i love the way the guy plays. Very happy he became a Cleveland Brown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I know i love the way the guy plays. Very happy he became a Cleveland Brown! That we can definitely agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Just signing a name? Who is Ray Edwards? He is not a name I know....so maybe they didn't really sign a name? This guy was one of the coveted free agents in the 2011 offseason. I remember so many people on this board railed Heckert when we didn't even make an offer to the guy. This is just another of many examples to me that signing the best "name" in a free agent class doesn't pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 This guy was one of the coveted free agents in the 2011 offseason. I remember so many people on this board railed Heckert when we didn't even make an offer to the guy. This is just another of many examples to me that signing the best "name" in a free agent class doesn't pan out. No but signing guys like Dimitri Patterson, Usama Young and re signing Chris Gocong haven't been the best either. You can't build a winner by throwing all your money into free agency. Look at the Eagles. they blow.. But there is something to be said about a GM who can bring in middle tier free agents to compliment their team. 49ers are the best example of this. Look at their free agents they brought into compliment their draft class. Whitner, Donte Rogers, Carlos Moss, Randy Manningham, Mario Davis, Leonard Smith, Justin Brooks, Ahmad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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