Browns149 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I am not trying to defend Cooper. What I was saying is, why are people surprised when, someone who is white, uses the N word? It happens all the time and will continue to happen regardless of what ANYONE thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I could care less. I have no shitty history with the word cracker. I've never been treated as less than others because I'm "a cracker." I'm not really even sure what you are trying to prove here? Is anyone trying to defend Cooper? Is someone trying to say "Black people use the N word all the time so why cant we?" Those are both idiot. Thats because your some punk ass spoiled white boy. You will fail in life, I predict. Count on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 If you can't distinguish between someone saying nigga (i.e, dude,bro,man) vs. N***** which is exclusively a racial slur then you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCKraukOSII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Thats because your some punk ass spoiled white boy. You will fail in life, I predict. Count on it. Lol, alright you cranky old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 what im gonna say is not intended to offend anyone theres good bad in all races with that said...... 1) ill never understand why every time n word is used its racism yet blacks call whites cracka it isnt and how many blacks call other blacks the n word? look rap music how often you here n word? im not condoneing it i just dont understand why its so offensive to the black race when they constantly call each other it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 If you can't distinguish between someone saying nigga (i.e, dude,bro,man) vs. N***** which is exclusively a racial slur then you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. I don't accept it. I don't care what the rational is. Dude and bro and man aren't derivitive of 'N*****'. They don't want the word to die out. They use it constantly. They just don't want white people to be able to say it. Sorry, my nigga, the world doesn't work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 what im gonna say is not intended to offend anyone theres good bad in all races with that said...... 1) ill never understand why every time n word is used its racism yet blacks call whites cracka it isnt and how many blacks call other blacks the n word? look rap music how often you here n word? im not condoneing it i just dont understand why its so offensive to the black race when they constantly call each other it Because black people did have other black people as slaves in the US, then racist Jim Crow laws, then just general oppression, etc etc all while calling these oppressed blacks niggers. White people did that to black people. That's why there is a more weight behind a white person using the word N***** and a black person using the word cracker. Cracker has no real weight to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 You do know that there were like, hundreds of thousands of years of slavery before American slavery don't you? Granted, by the 1800's everyone should have been more civilized than that, but its hardly as if Africans have been the only slaves and whites the only slavemasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 No shit. Slavery among tribes, or of the Jews, or whatever has really no effect on the present day US though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 No shit. Slavery among tribes, or of the Jews, or whatever has really no effect on the present day US though. There are Jews in this country TODAY that would disagree with your statement about "no effect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 I forgot about black slave masters calling white slaves honkies Or blacks discriminating against honkies with Jim Crow laws... There's a reason you don't get butt hurt about it. There clearly is a distinction. "I'll fight every N***** here, bro" Vs "What's good my nigga" But I'm not looking to get into a debate regarding race with the "blacks across the world have an inferior culture" guy I wonder if the black African tribal leaders who sold their slaves to the Europeans called their slaves any derogatory names? Where do you think slaves came from woody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 I forgot about black slave masters calling white slaves honkies Or blacks discriminating against honkies with Jim Crow laws... There's a reason you don't get butt hurt about it. There clearly is a distinction. "I'll fight every N***** here, bro" Vs "What's good my nigga" But I'm not looking to get into a debate regarding race with the"blacks across the world have an inferior culture" guy you wouldnt win any debate with cysko anyway... - I read that thread and I didnt find anything that wasnt true... that statement was yo boy hecks (typical) twist and spin ploy, he changed the discussion - that wasnt the point being argued ! you better take a closer look at your apologise first - reason second stance you take with everything. there are alot of us plain sick and tired of the civil rights tour expanded.... Jackson sharpton et al... whitey has to feel sorry for the black mans hurt? how about raising up your families and just shut up and take care of your kids.... is the gist of what was said.... cysko NAILED it... and well... I dont see yo boy heck in here to help you out either ! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Never said I won. I'm just not looking to get into a race debate with a guy that thinks blacks have an inferior culture. You guys are getting way off base. The point is in pretty recent history N***** is a word used by predominantly one race to describe another. This came with slavery, jim crow laws, and general oppression and discrimination. There is a lot of weight to the word N***** when said by a white guy to descirbe a black guy. Black guys calling black guys nigga is something different completely. I'm not sure how you don't see that. Or you are just doing the normal "I hate how other people always play victim so I am going to complain about how something isn't completely in my favore but I'm in no way acting like a victim by doing it"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 You say inferior because you want to paint it as though I somehow said white people are superior. You can read that thread until you're blue in the face and you will not find where I said black people were inferior. You said that. I can criticize a culture without claiming the humans are inferior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Never said I won. I'm just not looking to get into a race debate with a guy that thinks blacks have an inferior culture. You guys are getting way off base. The point is in pretty recent history N***** is a word used by predominantly one race to describe another. This came with slavery, jim crow laws, and general oppression and discrimination. There is a lot of weight to the word N***** when said by a white guy to descirbe a black guy. Black guys calling black guys nigga is something different completely. I'm not sure how you don't see that. Or you are just doing the normal "I hate how other people always play victim so I am going to complain about how something isn't completely in my favore but I'm in no way acting like a victim by doing it"... Black people calling each other nigga is in no way different. Sorry, my niggas, that's not how the world works. We can all say it or no one can. This half-assed some people can say it is horse-shit. The quickest way we could put the kibosh on the nigga word is for guys like cal and diehard and yes even myself to start to greet each other by saying "what's good my nigga" and being completely unrepentant about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Black people calling each other nigga is in no way different. Sorry, my niggas, that's not how the world works. We can all say it or no one can. This half-assed some people can say it is horse-shit. The quickest way we could put the kibosh on the nigga word is for guys like cal and diehard and yes even myself to start to greet each other by saying "what's good my nigga" and being completely unrepentant about it. You are correct. If EVERYONE said it, the meaning would go away. By letting certain people say it, just makes it worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 MLD, are you still in school? i mean what's your major, liberal law? just shut the fuck up already. you and people like you are what makes this discussion so fucking stooooooooopid. you're a N*****. i'm a N*****. we all are niggERS. we all come from the same place and we all have the same blood running through our veins. if you are soooooo much about history please note the fact that we all come from one woman. black. correct? so now after many thousands of years i just happen to have white skin because of all the variations of who got fucked and spewed out shit like me and you. i could give a fuck less. if you are black, great. good for ya. that means you prob got some little white hottie ready to suck your dick and buy you a fried chicken dinner. if you are white (HA!) you are prob spending too much time on your computer, jerking off to porn and failing miserably with the little white hotties. N*****. oh BTW, do you know the last person in line in your family that was actually a slave or slave owner? NO? then shut the fuck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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miktoxic Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 ^priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/videos/philadelphia-eagles/0ap2000000225806/Should-Cooper-s-teammates-have-defended-him I Think this is the point trying to be delivered to woody. I like how deion gets his preacher voice going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 AWESOME!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 MLD, are you still in school? i mean what's your major, liberal law? just shut the fuck up already. you and people like you are what makes this discussion so fucking stooooooooopid. you're a N*****. i'm a N*****. we all are niggERS. we all come from the same place and we all have the same blood running through our veins. if you are soooooo much about history please note the fact that we all come from one woman. black. correct? so now after many thousands of years i just happen to have white skin because of all the variations of who got fucked and spewed out shit like me and you. i could give a fuck less. if you are black, great. good for ya. that means you prob got some little white hottie ready to suck your dick and buy you a fried chicken dinner. if you are white (HA!) you are prob spending too much time on your computer, jerking off to porn and failing miserably with the little white hotties. N*****. oh BTW, do you know the last person in line in your family that was actually a slave or slave owner? NO? then shut the fuck up. Wtf point are you even trying to make here? No, I'm studying mechanical engineering at Michigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Ya right, nigga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 The "N word" is deeply insulting and links back to some really ugly times... not just slavery but also some really vicious and homicidal civil rights era stuff. Absolutely no comparison to calling someone a redneck... while not exactly nice, just doesn't have the same vile history. But if black folk hate it, should they stop saying it? Yes. I agree with Oprah and others. It's confusing all the white folk (as we can see here). The word "faggot" has the same level of grossness to it. It's an insult, basically insinuating that there's nothing worse to be. And now that half of my best friends in the business are gay (and fantastic people), it chafes me pretty bad. Which makes bigots spinning themselves as the victims of bigotry all the more galling. Saying you're facing prejudice for hating gay people is weird. "I want everybody to stop discriminating against us discriminators!" Just don't hate ANYBODY for being what they are and it's all cool. Just "dislike" mean assholes of all sizes, shapes, colors, and sexual preferences! Plenty of those out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 The "N word" is deeply insulting and links back to some really ugly times... not just slavery but also some really vicious and homicidal civil rights era stuff. Absolutely no comparison to calling someone a redneck... while not exactly nice, just doesn't have the same vile history. But if black folk hate it, should they stop saying it? Yes. I agree with Oprah and others. It's confusing all the white folk (as we can see here). The word "faggot" has the same level of grossness to it. It's an insult, basically insinuating that there's nothing worse to be. And now that half of my best friends in the business are gay (and fantastic people), it chafes me pretty bad. Which makes bigots spinning themselves as the victims of bigotry all the more galling. Saying you're facing prejudice for hating gay people is weird. "I want everybody to stop discriminating against us discriminators!" Just don't hate ANYBODY for being what they are and it's all cool. Just "dislike" mean assholes of all sizes, shapes, colors, and sexual preferences! Plenty of those out there. What are you talking about? "Nigga" is "friend". "Retard" is someone who does something stupid/clumsy. "Gay" is "lame". "Faggot" is...well I don't know how the kids are using it these days but mire than 1/2 the time its not relating to gays. A lot of times its used almost like a term of endearment. Either everyone can say the word or no one can. This thought police banning words shit is for the birds. If we outlaw the word faggot people will just find a new derogatory word for gays. They'll call them "frenchie" instead if "faggot". Then what? Ban frenchie? They'll just make up a new term. It's impossible to stop people from being haters. Frankly black people have the right idea here. Change the meaning of the word. Make nigga friend, but then, freely distribute it. Encourage your perceived enemy to make niggas friends. The business of saying "nigga means friend, but white people can't say it" is shit. That's saying you accept segregation and divisiveness. I can't believe that black people would have fought so hard for so long to go back to promote segregation. As for the gays, they already have a lot of support among the youth of this country. Take faggot and make it something positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Cooper didn't say Nigga though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Woody, its the same word. There is no difference. Is sucka different from sucker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Is all y'all different from all of you? Is axe different from ask? It's a slangified form of "N*****" nothing more. Both have their roots in 'Negro' which is, of course, the Spanish word for black and not an inherently racist word. I always wonder why black people hate Negro and prefer Black. It's the same word. I wouldn't be particularly upset if I were referred to as a Blanco, although we're really more a combination of Rosa/Marron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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