WPB Dawg Fan Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 In games that DA has completed at least 50% of his passes...and has 0 or 1 INT, the Browns are 12-0 since last year!!! In games that DA has EITHER completed LESS than 50% of his passes or has had MULTIPLE INT's, the Brows are 1-10 (the only win was Buffalo in a snow storm). Again 50% completions, 1 or fewer INT's: 12-0 Less than 50% completions or multiple INT's: 1-10 Now, please tell me what other stat is THAT DEFINITIVE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNSofSTEEL08 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 In games that DA has completed at least 50% of his passes...and has 0 or 1 INT, the Browns are 12-0 since last year!!! In games that DA has EITHER completed LESS than 50% of his passes or has had MULTIPLE INT's, the Brows are 1-10 (the only win was Buffalo in a snow storm). Again 50% completions, 1 or fewer INT's: 12-0 Less than 50% completions or multiple INT's: 1-10 Now, please tell me what other stat is THAT DEFINITIVE!!! GOOD QBs push 60% and better... but Yes its quite helpful that you dont miss on more than you hit !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 In games that DA has completed at least 50% of his passes...and has 0 or 1 INT, the Browns are 12-0 since last year!!! In games that DA has EITHER completed LESS than 50% of his passes or has had MULTIPLE INT's, the Brows are 1-10 (the only win was Buffalo in a snow storm). That statement was true last year as it was clear that the team was carried by the passing game. This year not so much with the improved D. The team now has the ability to win games even when the passing game isn't clicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPB Dawg Fan Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 It's not even GOOD QBing required....just don't f*ck it up QBing!!! I don't think ANYONE can say that 50% completions and only 1 INT is TOO MUCH TO ASK!!! And lummy, nope, wrong again. We are 3-0 with those stats this year...and 0-4 when he doesn't reach them!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 It's not even GOOD QBing required....just don't f*ck it up QBing!!! I don't think ANYONE can say that 50% completions and only 1 INT is TOO MUCH TO ASK!!! I wonder if that's what some golden domer fans were saying for 3 straight bowl games 2004-2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 If I didn't know any better, I'd say the Browns are dominant when they can run the ball and are not forced into long passing downs. Willard High School did wonders for more than just Charlie Frye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osusev Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 How about the stat when Jamal lewis touches the ball 20 times a game we are 10-1 when he does not well.... 1-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemosley01 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 How about the stat when Jamal lewis touches the ball 20 times a game we are 10-1 when he does not well.... 1-10 So all we have to do is give Lewis the ball 21 times in a row, and we have a 10 in 11 chance of winning, regardless of how much he rushes. Has it occurred to you he gets that many touches when the passing game sets it up so we don't have to abandon the run? Because THAT is exactly what I see. Yeah. Didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Has it occurred to you he gets that many touches when the passing game sets it up so we don't have to abandon the run? Because THAT is exactly what I see. I agree that the passing game is more of a catalyst than the running game lemfaggly01. That would explain why DA was named team MVP last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenotbrown Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 In games that DA has completed at least 50% of his passes...and has 0 or 1 INT, the Browns are 12-0 since last year!!! In games that DA has EITHER completed LESS than 50% of his passes or has had MULTIPLE INT's, the Brows are 1-10 (the only win was Buffalo in a snow storm). Again 50% completions, 1 or fewer INT's: 12-0 Less than 50% completions or multiple INT's: 1-10 Now, please tell me what other stat is THAT DEFINITIVE!!! Here's the key to your stat ( and I admit it Berea you have a damn NOSE for the killer stat) The key to that stat is: Games that DA completes 50% of his passes. it has NOTHING to do with BQ. That schmuck is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesus9814 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 It is simple, we blame DA for the loses all the time, but stats like this show us that we need to run the ball more, we need to control the games better, not just go into passing mode because we are down 3 points, we need to stick to the run to open up the pass, if our coaching staff calls better plays and manages the game better we could make the playoffs, because we have the talent we just need to learn how to use it in a better more productive way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osusev Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 lemosley WPB put up a pretty definitive stat linking our success to a specific factor with the qb position. He asked what other stat existed that was as or more definitive to our success. I provided a pretty important stat.... Lemosley this is a TEAM game and it requires MULTIPLE TEAM FACTORS to create success. This is never as simple as one players performance... A QB needs someone to block, catch, call plays that are not predictable etc... field position blah blah blah. You are so ANTI DA that anyone posting information about the TEAM that links our success as a TEAM all you can think of is your BQ love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemosley01 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 lemosley WPB put up a pretty definitive stat linking our success to a specific factor with the qb position. He asked what other stat existed that was as or more definitive to our success. I provided a pretty important stat.... Lemosley this is a TEAM game and it requires MULTIPLE TEAM FACTORS to create success. This is never as simple as one players performance... A QB needs someone to block, catch, call plays that are not predictable etc... field position blah blah blah. You are so ANTI DA that anyone posting information about the TEAM that links our success as a TEAM all you can think of is your BQ love. But you aren't focusing on the team. All you are saying is 'if Jamal gets 20+ carries we win'. What is that about focusing on an individual performance? That stat you quote is a an effect of winning, not the cause for winning. Look at the wins and see when most of his carries came. That's right - AFTER we got a lead. This isn't the unique to the NFL - most of the winning teams are PASSING to setup the run. Sorry that you don't like it, but it's true. Look at Minnesota and ask - what are they missing. If you answered 'a legit QB' you are correct. It's interesting that you want to call me out on 'bias'. Pot, meet kettle. The difference is, unlike you, I am not Pro-Quinn because he is Brady Quinn and I am in love with him, I believe he won't be worse than 31st rank in the NFL. I'm Anti-Anderson because he is Mr. Inconsistent and I don't believe we'll ever win a Championship with Mr. Inconsistent (and to a greater degree RAC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes10_Ward_86 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 In games that DA has completed at least 50% of his passes...and has 0 or 1 INT, the Browns are 12-0 since last year!!! In games that DA has EITHER completed LESS than 50% of his passes or has had MULTIPLE INT's, the Brows are 1-10 (the only win was Buffalo in a snow storm). Again 50% completions, 1 or fewer INT's: 12-0 Less than 50% completions or multiple INT's: 1-10 Now, please tell me what other stat is THAT DEFINITIVE!!! It's real simple this stat means shit because Anderson completed 51 percent of his passes today going 17 for 33 and threw 1 INT and guess what surprise surprise the BROWNS LOST!!! Tell Braylon I drop balls constantly and am overrated Edwards maybe if he catches that deep ball that Anderson put right on the money to him when the game was tied at 27-27 like a receiver like Hines Ward has done his whole career maybe the Browns win. The bottom line is Braylon Edwards is a gagger when it comes to making clutch catches the guy is overrated as shit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 DA was named team MVP last year. You did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osusev Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 listen again today 19 attempts for 49 yds...... DA is NOT good enough to carry the team. You have to be able to rush. Steinbach got hurt and we went to pot, we dont have Tucker or Vickers this game and we could not run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Many teams have trouble running against Baltimore. Would it be too much to ask a QB to step up once in awhile and carry this team? With DA, the answer, sadly, is yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 listen again today 19 attempts for 49 yds...... DA is NOT good enough to carry the team. You have to be able to rush. Steinbach got hurt and we went to pot, we dont have Tucker or Vickers this game and we could not run. Sev- even the announcers get it. Nobody has put a hundo on the ground against the ratbirds in the last 26 games!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemosley01 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 listen again today 19 attempts for 49 yds...... DA is NOT good enough to carry the team. You have to be able to rush. Steinbach got hurt and we went to pot, we dont have Tucker or Vickers this game and we could not run. Ahhh...the excuses keep on coming. Damn, are the flowing freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturim Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 All i know is I have friends, people at work etc. that see it. They're saying the same thing about DA. So those that feel that DA is not the issue actually feel he has nothing to do with this team being 3-5 now....that he has done everything needed for this team to succeed? I'm callin' bullshit on that and I'm sure some others will also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturim Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Ravens had a banged up secondary today that we should have taken advantage of...that didn't happen. No one has been able to run on the ravens this season, so Im not exactly surprized that we didn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiibrownsfan Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Allowing the ratbirds churn out 429 yards The conservative play calling hurt, Blowing a 14 pt lead hurt. So not being able to run, and having Rice run for 157 hurt. Including a 60 yard run. Having only 49 yards running hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 In games that DA has completed at least 50% of his passes...and has 0 or 1 INT, the Browns are 12-0 since last year!!! apparently it's not that simple WPB. Especially when you have a D that gives up 429 yds to Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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