gftChris Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/2952/all-afc-north-cleveland-browns All-AFC North Offense WR A.J. Green Cincinnati Bengals WR Josh Gordon Cleveland Browns WR Antonio Brown Pittsburgh Steelers LT Joe Thomas Cleveland Browns LG Andrew Whitworth Cincinnati Bengals C Alex Mack Cleveland Browns RG David DeCastro Pittsburgh Steelers RT Mitchell Schwartz Cleveland Browns QB Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers TE Jordan Cameron Cleveland Browns RB Le'Veon Bell Pittsburgh Steelers All-AFC North Defense DE Michael Johnson Cincinnati Bengals DT Phil Taylor Cleveland Browns DT Arthur Jones Baltimore Ravens DE Carlos Dunlap Cincinnati Bengals OLB Jason Worilds Pittsburgh Steelers ILB Daryl Smith Baltimore Ravens ILB Vontaze Burfict Cincinnati Bengals OLB Terrell Suggs Baltimore Ravens CB Joe Haden Cleveland Browns CB Jimmy Smith Baltimore Ravens SS James Ihedigbo Baltimore Ravens FS Troy Polamalu Pittsburgh Steelers 5 out of 11 players on O, 4 players you'd expect to be there plus Mitchell Schwartz - not convinced about that one. Only two players on D though, which probably reflects the collapses of the D over the second half of games/the season. Did James Ihedigbo - he of Little-choking fame - play better than TJ Ward? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bengals had 5 players on this list, Ravens also had 5, Steelers 6 and Browns 7 Plus, Sorry, but Ward had a better year than Polamalu. (Edit: wait, I thought Polly was a SS, not a FS. WTF is up with that?) That, plus your list here just goes to show you what I have said: The Browns are far less than the sum of their parts. The talent on this team is rampant. It is there. (Sure, maybe The Schwartz didn't have a great year, but he has talent) And this list is probably Exhibit A on why Chudzinski is outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 And this list is probably Exhibit A on why Chudzinski is outta here. The team had enough talent to be in the lead or tied for the lead in 10 out of 16 games. There are still holes but there is talent on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 The other major factor was the Browns QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Lots of talent on the team combined with only 4 wins and a record setting 7 losses in a row = New head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Daddy Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 I feek like most of Schwartz's struggles came from having to compensate for the guards beside him. Once Cousins was replaced Schwartz looked a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag O' Dicks Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/2952/all-afc-north-cleveland-browns 5 out of 11 players on O, 4 players you'd expect to be there plus Mitchell Schwartz - not convinced about that one. Only two players on D though, which probably reflects the collapses of the D over the second half of games/the season. Did James Ihedigbo - he of Little-choking fame - play better than TJ Ward? I doubt it. This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that. Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there. Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period. I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that. Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there. Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period. I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure. You come in a month later on a browns forum just to be butt hurt over some ESPN blog post? I don't think we really care about the ravens interior line personnel. Besides, Geno Atkins is the #1 DT in the division. Stay classy Raven fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag O' Dicks Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 You come in a month later on a browns forum just to be butt hurt over some ESPN blog post? I don't think we really care about the ravens interior line personnel. Besides, Geno Atkins is the #1 DT in the division. Stay classy Raven fans. I'm always classy. You didn't see me go overboard. I am just giving my opinion on a biased awful ALL-Division squad. That's all/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 You think I made that team up? It's from the ESPN website, voted for by AFC north writers, followers of all teams. That being said, I'll give you Taylor/Ngata/Atkins is a pretty tough call, and you could argue for any of them. Oh, and, Ihedigbo is a thug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag O' Dicks Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 You think I made that team up? It's from the ESPN website, voted for by AFC north writers, followers of all teams. That being said, I'll give you Taylor/Ngata/Atkins is a pretty tough call, and you could argue for any of them. Oh, and, Ihedigbo is a thug. Ngata and Atkins are far superior to Taylor...that's simple. Also, Ihedigbo is not a thug, just a funny ass name and a special teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 This is completely scewed and incorrect. First of all...Marshall Yanda should be the starting RG...he is vast superior to David freaking DeCastro LOL. Yanda is regarded as one of, if not the best RG in all of football who was once again a Pro Bowler...so there's that. Secondly, Phil Taylor?! I mean I know you're a diehard Browns fan, but I think any smart person knows Phil Taylor cannot wipe Haloti Ngatas behind. With saying that, Ngata is your top DT and should be in there. Also, James Ihedigbo...he doesn't belong in here. Lets be serious...hes a special teamer. period. I agree with Cameron over Pitta and Heath Miller for sure. More or less agree with you again. Yanda is proven. DeCastro, while quality, is still learning. Phil Taylor CAN wipe Ngatas behind.....they are close in talent, but I would give the edge to Ngata. But TJ Ward had a better year than Polomalu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 You come in a month later on a browns forum just to be butt hurt over some ESPN blog post? I don't think we really care about the ravens interior line personnel. Besides, Geno Atkins is the #1 DT in the division. Stay classy Raven fans. You definitely have a point about Atkins. Not sure why this Dunlop guy is on this list. The DTs coulda been Atkins and Ngata instead of Taylor and Dunlop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ngata and Atkins are far superior to Taylor...that's simple. Also, Ihedigbo is not a thug, just a funny ass name and a special teamer. I agree with that. Taylor's kinda lazy. But this is just some ESPN guy's ill-informed opinion. No reason to really look into it with any insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 But TJ Ward had a better year than Polomalu. Polumalu is a FS, Ward is SS. They are the best 2 at their positions in the division... and, Phil Taylor is a monster. I only wish he would stay on the field more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 The lack of any Browns LBs on the team says all you need to know about our need to return to the 4-3... ... Phil Taylor is a monster. I only wish he would stay on the field more... Yup... Big Phil was lights out as a NT this year. The degree to which he embraced that role absolutely shocked me. I honestly would take him over Ngata or Atkins at NT... and I love Ngata... if for no other reason than the mid-air hit he put on RG3. As a 4-3 DT I take Geno over either of them and probably tab Haloti as my #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Schwartz hahaha he is awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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