The Gipper Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Here is your chance to choose the "Greatest QB in history"....but I am going to do it like the NCAA basketball tournament. I am going to list 64 of the best QBs in history and match them against each other. We will have 32 matches in the first round, then 16, then 8, 4, 2, 1. And go from there. Here are the initial matchups. Simply highlight which QB you think wins the match. After so many votes are cast, I will then declare winners and then announce the 2 round matchups: Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied John Elway vs. Arnie Herber Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski Peyton vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson John Unitas vs. Doug Williams Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Too much for me to write out at this time. Good concept though. I cast my ultimate vote for Joe Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied John Elway vs. Arnie Herber Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski Peyton vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson John Unitas vs. Doug Williams Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Here is your chance to choose the "Greatest QB in history"....but I am going to do it like the NCAA basketball tournament. I am going to list 64 of the best QBs in history and match them against each other. We will have 32 matches in the first round, then 16, then 8, 4, 2, 1. And go from there. Here are the initial matchups. Simply highlight which QB you think wins the match. After so many votes are cast, I will then declare winners and then announce the 2 round matchups: Tom Brady◀ vs. Jack Kemp Joe Montana◀ vs. Bob Waterfied John Elway◀ vs. Arnie Herber Otto Graham◀vs. Ed Danowski Peyton ◀vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw◀ vs. George Blanda Bart Starr ◀vs. Warren Moon Sid Luckman◀ vs. Dan Fouts Brett Favre◀ vs. Bernie Kosar Sammy Baugh ◀vs. Jim McMahon Dan Marino◀ vs. Bobby Layne Troy Aikman◀ vs. Tommy Thompson Steve Young◀ vs. Daryl Lamonica Jim Kelly ◀vs. Brad Johnson John Unitas◀ vs. Doug Williams Roger Staubach◀ vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin ◀vs. Mark Rypien Frank Ryan ◀vs. Donovan McNabb Eli Manning◀ vs. Trent Dilfer Len Dawson◀ vs. Jake Delhomme Aaron Rodgers ◀vs. Craig Morton Fran Tarkenton◀ vs. Danny White Ben Roethlisberger ◀vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese ◀vs. Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms ◀vs. Phil Rivers Kurt Warner◀ vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason◀ Ken Stabler ◀vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman◀ vs. Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle◀ Kerry Collins◀ vs. Neil O'Donnell Randall Cunningham ◀vs. Don Meredith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied John Elway vs. Arnie Herber Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski Peyton vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson John Unitas vs. Doug Williams Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith I agree exactly with Zombo. Next round will be more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I agree exactly with Zombo. Next round will be more interesting. Yea, just like the NCAA, the #1 and 2 seeds don't have much trouble winning, but when you get down to the 8 vs. 9 that is a little tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Too much for me to write out at this time. Good concept though. I cast my ultimate vote for Joe Montana Lazy ass. You didn't have to write anything. Just highlight. You can come back an vote for Joe again....if he makes it that far, but for now, your vote is disallowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I considered one big upset, Moon over Starr, but in the end I went with leadership over production in that case. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 It's not as easy as all that on the phone. If I were on a computer I could have complied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Here is your chance to choose the "Greatest QB in history"....but I am going to do it like the NCAA basketball tournament. I am going to list 64 of the best QBs in history and match them against each other. We will have 32 matches in the first round, then 16, then 8, 4, 2, 1. And go from there. Here are the initial matchups. Simply highlight which QB you think wins the match. After so many votes are cast, I will then declare winners and then announce the 2 round matchups: MY vote: Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied John Elway vs. Arnie Herber Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski Peyton vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson John Unitas vs. Doug Williams Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 It's not as easy as all that on the phone. If I were on a computer I could have complied Oh, OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 So far the main horse races are Ryan vs. McNabb, Simms vs. Rivers, Flacco vs. Esiason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 It's not as easy as all that on the phone. If I were on a computer I could have compliedim on a phone as well. Just hit quote and go put an arrow by the names....took me 2 min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 *Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp *Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied *John Elway vs. Arnie Herber *Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski *Peyton vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw vs. *George Blanda Bart Starr vs. *Warren Moon Sid Luckman vs. *Dan Fouts *Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar *Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon *Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne *Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson *Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica , I liked Lamonica *Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson *John Unitas vs. Doug Williams *Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin vs. *Mark Rypien Frank Ryan vs. *Donovan McNabb *Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer *Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme *Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton *Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White *Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese vs. *Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms vs. *Phil Rivers *Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco vs. *Boomer Esiason *Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman vs. *Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. *Y.A. Tittle *Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell *Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith very interesting match ups, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Brian Fucking Sipe. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Here is your chance to choose the "Greatest QB in history"....but I am going to do it like the NCAA basketball tournament. I am going to list 64 of the best QBs in history and match them against each other. We will have 32 matches in the first round, then 16, then 8, 4, 2, 1. And go from there. Here are the initial matchups. Simply highlight which QB you think wins the match. After so many votes are cast, I will then declare winners and then announce the 2 round matchups: Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied John Elway vs. Arnie Herber Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski Peyton vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson John Unitas vs. Doug Williams Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Brian Fucking Sipe. WSS Because he never won a single playoff game he didn't make the 64 man cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think its really hard to call one man the greatest as much as the game changes..Id prefer to say "greatest per era" makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Tom Brady< vs. Jack Kemp Joe Montana «vs. Bob Waterfied John Elway«vs. Arnie Herber Otto Graham «vs. Ed Danowski Peyton «vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw «vs. George Blanda Bart Starr vs. »Warren Moon Sid Luckman vs.» Dan Fouts Brett Favre« vs. Bernie Kosar Sammy Baugh vs. »Jim McMahon Dan Marino« vs. Bobby Layne Troy Aikman« vs. Tommy Thompson Steve Young« vs. Daryl Lamonica Jim Kelly« vs. Brad Johnson John Unitas« vs. Doug Williams Roger Staubach« vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin« vs. Mark Rypien Frank Ryan vs. »Donovan McNabb Eli Manning« vs. Trent Dilfer Len Dawson «vs. Jake Delhomme Aaron Rodgers« vs. Craig Morton Fran Tarkenton« vs. Danny White Ben Roethlisberger« vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese «vs. Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms «vs. Phil Rivers Kurt Warner« vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco« vs. Boomer Esiason Ken Stabler« vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman« vs. Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. »Y.A. Tittle Kerry Collins «vs. Neil O'Donnell Randall Cunningham« vs. Don Meredith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 greatest QB in my time, brian fucking sipe! (cheers WSS!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Sorry guys, but Sipe didn't make the 64 man cut. Start with the fact that he never QBd a team to a playoff victory in his career. For the Browns, at least that means he didn't match up with Otto Graham, Frank Ryan, Bill Nelsen, Bernie Kosar, and even Vinny Testaverde. Beyond that here is where he ranks in certain statistical categories all time: Completions: 68th Yards: 75th TDs: 75th Passer rating: 117th YPG: 64th Y/Att.: 106th Comp. %: 105 Int. %: 142 TD%: 75th Game winning drives: 34th Comebacks: 38th Those last two help, but don't put him into the round of 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Here is your chance to choose the "Greatest QB in history"....but I am going to do it like the NCAA basketball tournament. I am going to list 64 of the best QBs in history and match them against each other. We will have 32 matches in the first round, then 16, then 8, 4, 2, 1. And go from there. Here are the initial matchups. Simply highlight which QB you think wins the match. After so many votes are cast, I will then declare winners and then announce the 2 round matchups: Winners from Round 1: Tom Brady vs. Jack Kemp Joe Montana vs. Bob Waterfied John Elway vs. Arnie Herber Otto Graham vs. Ed Danowski Peyton vs. Joe Namath Terry Bradshaw vs. George Blanda Bart Starr vs. Warren Moon Sid Luckman vs. Dan Fouts Brett Favre vs. Bernie Kosar Sammy Baugh vs. Jim McMahon Dan Marino vs. Bobby Layne Troy Aikman vs. Tommy Thompson Steve Young vs. Daryl Lamonica Jim Kelly vs. Brad Johnson John Unitas vs. Doug Williams Roger Staubach vs. Steve McNair Norm Van Brocklin vs. Mark Rypien Frank Ryan vs. Donovan McNabb Eli Manning vs. Trent Dilfer Len Dawson vs. Jake Delhomme Aaron Rodgers vs. Craig Morton Fran Tarkenton vs. Danny White Ben Roethlisberger vs. Earl Morrall Bob Griese vs. Jeff Hostetler Phil Simms vs. Phil Rivers Kurt Warner vs. Ron Jaworski Joe Flacco vs. Boomer Esiason Ken Stabler vs. Tony Eason Joe Theisman vs. Jim Plunkett Tobin Rote vs. Y.A. Tittle Kerry Collins vs. Neil O'Donnell Randall Cunningham vs. Don Meredith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Sorry guys, but Sipe didn't make the 64 man cut. Start with the fact that he never QBd a team to a playoff victory in his career. For the Browns, at least that means he didn't match up with Otto Graham, Frank Ryan, Bill Nelsen, Bernie Kosar, and even Vinny Testaverde. Beyond that here is where he ranks in certain statistical categories all time: Completions: 68th Yards: 75th TDs: 75th Passer rating: 117th YPG: 64th Y/Att.: 106th Comp. %: 105 Int. %: 142 TD%: 75th Game winning drives: 34th Comebacks: 38th Those last two help, but don't put him into the round of 64. Game winning drives: 34th Comebacks: 38th That's why Browns fans love him. And that's why they are intrigued by Hoyer, who got us into a jam against Minnesota on the road, and then pulled us out. ( And then delivered the biggest win of our season the next week.) Everyone loves gunslingers and leaders, and he was both. No, he probably doesn't belong in your tournament, but he's in our Final Four and in our hearts forever. And when the NFL MVP Club meets, Ryan, Nelson, Kosar and Testeverde just don't have the credentials to get in. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Here we go with the Round of 32 matchups. Cast your vote for the better QB from these pairings: Tom Brady...or...Donovan McNabb Joe Montana...or...Randall Cunningham John Elway...or...Boomer Esiason Otto Graham...or...Kerry Collins Peyton Manning...or...Joe Theisman Terry Bradshaw...or...Phil Simms Bart Starr...or...Bob Griese Brett Favre...or...Ken Stabler Sid Luckman...or...Kurt Warner Sammy Baugh...or...Ben Roethlisberger Dan Marino...or...Fran Tarkenton Troy Aikman...or...Eli Manning Steve Young...or...Aaron Rodgers Jim Kelly...or...Len Dawson John Unitas...or...Norm Van Brocklin Roger Staubach...or Y.A. Tittle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I know we hate the ravens but I do believe flacco has eclipsed boomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Here we go with the Round of 32 matchups. Cast your vote for the better QB from these pairings: Tom Brady w...or...Donovan McNabb Joe Montana w...or...Randall Cunningham John Elway w...or...Boomer Esiason Otto Graham w...or...Kerry Collins Peyton Manning w...or...Joe Theisman Terry Bradshaw w...or...Phil Simms Bart Starr w...or...Bob Griese Brett Favre w...or...Ken Stabler Sid Luckman...or... W Kurt Warner Sammy Baugh...or... W ben Roethlisberger Dan Marino w...or...Fran Tarkenton Troy Aikman w...or...Eli Manning Steve Young w...or...Aaron Rodgers toughest choice Jim Kelly w...or...Len Dawson John Unitas w...or...Norm Van Brocklin Roger Staubach w...or Y.A. Tittle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 That's why Browns fans love him. And that's why they are intrigued by Hoyer, who got us into a jam against Minnesota on the road, and then pulled us out. ( And then delivered the biggest win of our season the next week.) Everyone loves gunslingers and leaders, and he was both. No, he probably doesn't belong in your tournament, but he's in our Final Four and in our hearts forever. And when the NFL MVP Club meets, Ryan, Nelson, Kosar and Testeverde just don't have the credentials to get in. Zombo Fair enough. Note this though: there were several guys that ranked very very high in some of those passing stat categories that I did not include in this tournament. Guys like Vinny, Drew Bledsoe, Dave Kreig, Carson Palmer, Steve DeBerg, Jim Everett. Some of them ranked as high as Top Ten or 20 in some stat areas. But I will be honest with you: I did make two now glaring errors to me when compiling this field of 64 by leaving off Sonny Jurgenson and Drew Brees. Those two should have been on the list over 10 or 12 guys that I did put on there. But I don't think I can fix it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I know we hate the ravens but I do believe flacco has eclipsed boomer Maybe, but the votes did not go that way. I think Ryan is better than McNabb, but that lost too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Here we go with the Round of 32 matchups. Cast your vote for the better QB from these pairings: Tom Brady...or...Donovan McNabb Joe Montana...or...Randall Cunningham John Elway...or...Boomer Esiason Otto Graham...or...Kerry Collins Peyton Manning...or...Joe Theisman Terry Bradshaw...or...Phil Simms Bart Starr...or...Bob Griese Brett Favre...or...Ken Stabler Sid Luckman...or...Kurt Warner Sammy Baugh...or...Ben Roethlisberger Dan Marino...or...Fran Tarkenton Troy Aikman...or...Eli Manning Steve Young...or...Aaron Rodgers Jim Kelly...or...Len Dawson John Unitas...or...Norm Van Brocklin Roger Staubach...or Y.A. Tittle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarker Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 This link 'Cold Hard Football Facts' is to an old (2008) article titled "The definitive list: Top 10 NFL quarterbacks". I was recently on the Cold Hard Football Facts site looking for a comprehensive article for explaining the need for balance in football teams as opposed to thinking 'defenses wins games', so I thought I would check to see what those guys had to say. The above link is what I found. Whereas the GOAT NFL QB is somewhat subjective (in the eyes of the beholder) the CHFF guys put numbers to the QBs to came up with their view. I don't necessarily agree with them because I have strong biases against some in the list but I think you guys will like what's said about their their #4 GOAT. Article excerpt: 4. OTTO GRAHAM (Cleveland 1946-55) Best NFL season (1953): 167 for 258 (64.7%), 2,722 yards, 10.6 YPA, 11 TD, 9 INT, 99.7 passer rating Career (includes AAFC career): 1,464 for 2,626 (55.8%), 23,584 yards, 9.0 YPA, 174 TD, 135 INT, 86.6 passer rating Championships: AAFC 1946-49; NFL 1950, 1954, 1955 Overview: Otto Graham was Tom Brady before Tom Brady, putting up gaudy numbers for his time while winning games and championships at an unprecedented rate. He led the Browns to a championship in all four years of the AAFC's existence (1946-49). But he and the Browns proved they belonged in the big leagues by capturing the NFL title in their first year in the league. In fact, they'd go on to set a record that still stands, appearing in six straight NFL championship games from 1950 to 1955, winning three of them. Bottom line: Graham played in a pro football championship game every single season of his 10-year career, winning seven of them in two different leagues. He also set passing marks that stood for decades. His 86.6 passer rating, for example, is the top mark of the pre-Live Ball Era. And his career 9.0 YPA is No. 1 by a sizable margin. So why, then, isn't Graham higher on the list? His four years in the AAFC make for some awkward comparisons. There's every reason to believe the Browns would have been a dominant NFL team over those four years, but little reason to believe they would have won four straight championships. Graham's numbers also declined pretty noticeably when he went to the NFL, from simply unbelievable to merely spectacular. His career 9.0 YPA average, for example, drops to 8.63 if we look only at his NFL numbers. Of course, that 8.63 YPA mark is the best in NFL history, too. The full measure of Graham's impact is this: the organization has never recovered from his departure at the end of the 1955 season. Sure, they remained competitive through the Jim Brown years (1957-65), winning a championship in 1964. But that's the only championship the organization won since Graham last took a snap for the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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