John.R.Brown1968 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 UFA - Arizona Cardinals. Played at Stanford. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Browns-sign-tight-end-Jim-Dray/9a10f140-9a89-4913-b6b5-dfe10e4ec155 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Meh, don't know much about him. Could use some help at the te2 spot though, maybe someone else knows more about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 *shrug* Seems decent to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John.R.Brown1968 Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Meg, don't know much about him. Seems like a good size though. Yeah. Makes me think Barnidge might be on the way out. I mean, we already have WildDawg ( or Dawg ) Marqueis(sp?) Gray. How many freakin' tight ends do you need? Or maybe someone is getting moved to FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 OK, I wasn't sure if TE was a position of need, but any upgrade is good if this is one. The Browns have Cameron, Barnidge, Marquise Gray, Andre Smith, Keavon Milton on roster now. ESPN rates him as the 9th best free agent TE that was available. Could he be our #2 TE over Barnidge et al? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John.R.Brown1968 Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 OK, I wasn't sure if TE was a position of need, but any upgrade is good if this is one. The Browns have Cameron, Barnidge, Marquise Gray, Andre Smith, Keavon Milton on roster now. ESPN rates him as the 9th best free agent TE that was available. Could he be our #2 TE over Barnidge et al? I forgot about Smith and Milton. I'm wondering if they might look at some of these dudes as possible H-Back/Full back types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 According to Pro Football Focus, he did not drop a pass in 2013. I like him already! Good size. I love blocking tight ends. Seems this one can catch. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarker Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yep, no dropped passes last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John.R.Brown1968 Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I like him already! Good size. I love blocking tight ends. Seems this one can catch. Zombo I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both. We definitely needed another big body. That Marques Gray is no Tight end. He's some sort of football player ... but not a TE. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John.R.Brown1968 Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 We definitely needed another big body. That Marques Gray is no Tight end. He's some sort of football player ... but not a TE. Zombo Marques Gray is WildQuarterRunningEndTightBack. I think that's his official position description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Marques Gray is WildQuarterRunningEndTightBack. I think that's his official position description. Shanny may find use for him in the backfield. I like him a lot. I just don't count him when I start taking an inventory of actual tight ends. Seems Washington employed an H-Back type successfully over the years. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 "According to Pro Football Focus, he did not drop a pass in 2013." I like this. 26 catches, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Looks big enough to block and lean enough to catch. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEinCHI Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I was reading Dawgs by Nature - mixed reviews, depending on who you go by. Pro Football Talk said he's a subpar ( actually, they said woeful ) run blocker. But from Cardinals affiliate - They said he was the most reliable of all Arizona TEs. Arians said he was very trustworthy - not stellar at receiving or blocking, but reliable at both. Pro football talk's analysis is about as valid as mine... He was a core player on the Arizona Cardinals Special teams unit... looks like this pickup and the CB yesterday was to improve our ST units- I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 He is a true depth signing that you normally see at this point in FA. A guy brought in the compete with our bottom 5 TE. We could easily carry 4 TE again this year simply because of what someone else mentioned. Gray isn't really a TE, he is simply an offensive player. If the NFL hadn't put the hammer down on listing players as "Offensive Weapons" that is exactly what he would be listed at. WildDawg/Gameday 3rd string QB, running back, 2nd TE, slot reciever, red zone target. He needs to be listed someone so considering his height and weight it might as well be TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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