Why "common sense gun control" is a freakin fraud

[calfoxwc]

It's just a foot in the door.

 

"Operation Choke Point"...right, from a "president" who said he supported the 2nd Amendment,

 

yep...he lied about it all.

 

http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/25/gun-shop-owners-longer-hip-square/

[LogicIsForSquares]

For some reason the link is blocked at work. What is the long and short of it?

[sadbrownsfan]

For some reason the link is blocked at work. What is the long and short of it?

 

Didn't click the link, but I can probably sum it up, obamao is evil and wants to take our guns, here is an article that takes a very vague statement\rule\change that blows it way out of proportion for clicks to the website.

[LogicIsForSquares]

 

Didn't click the link, but I can probably sum it up, obamao is evil and wants to take our guns, here is an article that takes a very vague statement\rule\change that blows it way out of proportion for clicks to the website.

You could be on to something but I want to make sure.

[gftChris]

It’s white. It’s square. And at 1-by-1 inch in diameter, it is the perfect accoutrement to any entrepreneur’s smartphone.

With its quick swipe capability and ultimate portability, the high-tech Square Reader credit-card processor has become an invaluable tool in today’s economy.

Taxi drivers use it—as do trade-show vendors, online retailers and home contractors.

How high-tech credit card vendors and customers get their Second Amendment rights infringed.

It is, as the company’s slogan says, a “small credit card reader” that offers “big possibilities.” But some of those big possibilities are apparently being foreclosed by the Obama administration.

Last summer, around the same time the U.S. Department of Justice’s Operation Choke Point began pressuring banks to drop customers who buy or sell firearms, tobacco and other goods considered “not acceptable” by the Obama administration, Square quietly changed its terms of agreement.

In an alert regarding a change of terms, Square notified vendors:

The new terms differ from Square’s original terms of agreement, which banned only the “online” sales of firearms, a practice for which sites such as the popular eBay have long been criticized. (Square’s terms, by the way, also prohibit the online sale of cigarettes and other tobacco products—goods that also are targeted by Operation Choke Point.)

…you will not accept payments in connection with the following businesses or business activities: …sales of (i) firearms, firearm parts or hardware, and ammunition; or (ii) weapons and other devices designed to cause physical injury.

Today, the Square’s terms prohibit gun-shop owners from using the credit-card processor not only when they are conducting gun sales at their brick-and-mortar stores but even more so when they are offsite, representing their stores at gun shows where they often need the wireless Square Reader to ring up sales on smartphones or tablets. Gun show have been a target of anti-gun activists for nearly 20 years.

The action and its impact were noted by gun enthusiast blogs at the time, but it was hardly a blip on the radar screen of mainstream outlets.

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.@Square’s revised terms of service harm gun vendors by limiting sales opportunities.

Now, with evidence mounting of an all-out war on Second Amendment supporters in the financial marketplace, it fits the bill of an Operation Choke Point target.

Square’s revised terms of agreement immediately forced vendors to halt the processing of transactions of citizens who simply wish to buy or sell firearms or ammunition.

The timing of the release of the Square’s new, more stringent terms just so happens to coincide with Operation Choke Point’s initial targeting in the spring of 2013, as reported by The Daily Signal.

The timing also coincides with banking relationship cancellations of pro-Second Amendment candidates and campaigns throughout the United States, including last year’s Colorado recall elections over gun control.

Square’s press office did not responded to three attempts to obtain comment for this story.

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Did Operation Choke Point have something to do with @Square’s anti-gun shift?

With the help of the U.S. Consumer Coalition, more law-abiding business owners are coming forward to report abuses of power they suffered through Operation Choke Point.

As Americans begin to share their stories, the question ultimately will become whose arms are more important: the long arm of the Justice Department, or our right to bear arms?

The U.S. Constitution guarantees only the latter.

[gftChris]

Apologies if the formatting is off - sites like that tend to put click-bait ads in the middle of articles and use ridiculous so I just pasted in to notepad to remove it all.

[LogicIsForSquares]

Not worried about this stuff. Another vendor will fill the vacuum because there will be a lot of money to be made. A friend just had his account with Chase cancelled because he owns a gun store. He went down the street to another bank that was glad to accept his business.

[LogicIsForSquares]

Also thanks Chris for pasting that for me.

[htownbrown]

Operation Choke Point is not something I would jump behind, but there is clearly some scary shit being sold out of these gun shows. Its almost impossible to monitor what is going in and out of these things. In my younger days, I went to quite a few and discovered that you could buy more shit here than a legit gun store. Armour piercing bullets............no problem. Automatic weapons............sshhhhh over here. Easy way for criminal minded people to become really dangerous. I don't blame any business from distancing themselves from that circus.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

I'm sure the ATF has undercover people monitoring gun shows.

[LogicIsForSquares]

I'm sure the ATF has undercover people monitoring gun shows.

I have dealt directly with one of those guys. Tried to do a private sale and the guy started saying obvious stuff that should deter someone from selling to them ("If you ask for ID, man, I'm sorry I didn't bring any."). I immediately got sketchy vibes and he got pushy. I told him no deal. Later on I saw him sitting in the front seat of a Crown Vic with U.S. government plates.

[calfoxwc]

Well, it's illegal to own a automatic machine gun without a higher license.

 

to sell one to somebody without the same license? Throw em in the pokey.

 

I've never seen a machine gun at one of the gun shows, but I've seen some

single shot sniper rifle jobbies with the tripods etc. Big bucks.

 

Operation choke point disregards the type of guns. BBguns, .22's muzzle loaders for deer,

any rifle, shotgun or pistol.

 

That pretty much says right there, that the ulterior motive for "common sense gun control" is

exactly anti-all guns, anti-2nd Amendment to the core.

[MLD Woody]

Obama better hurry up on following through on his secret plan to repeal the 2nd amendment... He's running out of time

[Browns149]

gun control means using 2 hands