Canton Mike Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Look who we passed up & who we took....I went looking for this as I remembered how upset I was that we picked who we did...now I remember WHY! 1961 - Round 1 Sel # Player Position School Team 1 Tommy Mason RB Tulane Minnesota Vikings Bob Crespino TE Mississippi Cleveland Browns Herb Adderley DB Michigan State Green Bay Packers Bernie Casey WR Bowling Green State San Francisco 49ers Joe Rutgens DT Illinois Washington Redskins Mike Ditka TE Pittsburgh Chicago Bears Billy Kilmer QB UCLA San Francisco 49ers Marlin McKeever LB USC Los Angeles Rams Tom Matte RB Ohio State Baltimore Colts Norm Snead QB Wake Forest Washington Redskins Jim Johnson DB UCLA San Francisco 49ers Bob Lilly DT Texas Christian Dallas Cowboys Seems there's some names there we may recognize??? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geech Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 A TE with the 2nd overall pick?! Herb Adderly...oh man...how sweet that would have been. He is one of the greatest CBs of all time, along with Dick "Night Train" Lane. -Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 In 1961 nobody paid attention to the NFl draft.....I was only 12 at the time, but the best I recall is the draft wasn't a big deal. You were lucky to have a listing in the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 In 1961 nobody paid attention to the NFl draft.....I was only 12 at the time, but the best I recall is the draft wasn't a big deal. You were lucky to have a listing in the paper. I was 14 then & I DID pay attention to it, but you're right....very little was made of it. I would follow who they took every round. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcrow1945 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Mike "Mad dog in a meat market" Junkin is still the worst ever. #5 overall pick in the first round. Played two seasons, started 7 games and was as awful as a player could be. The next few picks were Shane Conlin, Jerome Brown and Ron Woodson. Marty's next two picks were greg Racoczy and Tim Manoa. The following year Marty took Clifford Charlton in the first round while Chris Speilman was still on the board. It still shocks me that some people wanted Marty back in this organization. I'm completely serious when I saw there are a number of us on this board that could evaluate talent better that Marty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 In 1961 nobody paid attention to the NFl draft.....I was only 12 at the time, but the best I recall is the draft wasn't a big deal. You were lucky to have a listing in the paper. I was still 3 years unborn in 1961 but thanks for making me feel like a young un on this board! hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Of STEEL 1 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I think your 2004 draft was the worst. #1 person you took was Winslow who has not done much. #1 you missed was Ben Steven Jackson DeAngelo Hall Vince Wilfork Chris Gamble Julius Jones Chris Cooley Michael Turner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listercat Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Adderley and Ditka; sheesh...... FOS1 is correct that was a HORRID draft for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason J Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have to go with 1988... Drafting LB Clifford Charlton, who is only ignored when people mention "busts" because 1.) He was drafted 21st overall not top 10, and 2.) Most people think that Michael Dean Perry was the Brown's top pick that year. He wasn't. Selecting Charlton at 21 left the following on the board for the Browns: RB Lorenzo White LB Chris Speilman DB Erik Allen LT John "Jumbo" Elliot LB Ken Norton Jr RB Thurman Thomas DT Pierce Holt OC Dermotti Dawson WR Willie "Flipper" Anderson Charlton was a bad pick, for sure... but you don't want to be the team that blows a late first round pick ahead of one of the greatest, deepest, and most talented second rounds in NFL history. What a colossal blunder. -jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Mike "Mad dog in a meat market" Junkin is still the worst ever. #5 overall pick in the first round. Played two seasons, started 7 games and was as awful as a player could be. The next few picks were Shane Conlin, Jerome Brown and Ron Woodson. Marty's next two picks were greg Racoczy and Tim Manoa. The following year Marty took Clifford Charlton in the first round while Chris Speilman was still on the board. It still shocks me that some people wanted Marty back in this organization. I'm completely serious when I saw there are a number of us on this board that could evaluate talent better that Marty. Mike Junkin Still Haunts Me "Never take a defensive player from a basketball school" ...hmm ... beware Curry fans, the ghost of Mike Junkin. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencyguy Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Always a problem when you take a bust, then have two guys in the next five or so go to the HOF--especially when it's a draft as comparatively recent as 1988 (you figure that a HOF player is going to have a 12-15 year career, which means that they're getting in pretty close to the first ballot). Thurman Thomas is already in, and Dermontti Dawson should have been in a couple of years ago. Although it's hard to say who's a bust versus who's a good pick while they're still with their original team--I'm comfortable with saying that Gerard Warren and William Green might not have been great picks--it's well nigh impossible to say that taking Winslow instead of Roethlisbergeer wasn't a mistake; forget that he played for Davis, forget that they already had a highly-picked QB on the roster; I thought it was a bad move to pass on him at the time, and I haven't seen a whole lot to convince me that I'll end up thinking I was wrong, regardless of how much I love Winslow's passion out there. Dennis Of course, if Winslow leads the team to a couple of Super Bowls, I'll call it a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Mike Junkin Still Haunts Me "Never take a defensive player from a basketball school" ...hmm ... beware Curry fans, the ghost of Mike Junkin. Zombo i knew you always hated Lawrence Taylor. i thought he was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumcrazy73 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Had Winslow not gotten hurt, I think in the end he would have proven worthy of getting picked like he did! He is still a hell of a football even with all his injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcrow1945 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Mike Junkin Still Haunts Me "Never take a defensive player from a basketball school" ...hmm ... beware Curry fans, the ghost of Mike Junkin. Zombo Ya know Zombo....Although that is a funny piece....It almost convinces me of the idea. Maybe not of the player suggested but of the mindset of offense for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 i knew you always hated Lawrence Taylor. i thought he was pretty good. Touche. I think Skippy's rule was "never draft a QB from a basketball school" ... that's a little more tried and tested, although Cutler is working out ... but I'm not sure if Vanderbilt is considered a basketball school ... it certainly isn't a football school. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcrow1945 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 ... but I'm not sure if Vanderbilt is considered a basketball school ... it certainly isn't a football school. Zombo It's a baseball school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 That 60's draft is ancient history. Let's fast forward to the absolute worst Browns draft pick in modern history. I nominate 2001, hands down. Get ready to hurl. We took Fatso Gerrard Warren. Still on the board? LaDanian Tomlinson. Richard Seymour. Dan Morgan. Santana Moss. Steve Hutchinson. Casey Hampton. Nate Clemens. Deuce McCallister. Reggie Wayne. Todd Heap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Of STEEL 1 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 That 60's draft is ancient history. Let's fast forward to the absolute worst Browns draft pick in modern history. I nominate 2001, hands down. Get ready to hurl. We took Fatso Gerrard Warren. Still on the board? LaDanian Tomlinson. Richard Seymour. Dan Morgan. Santana Moss. Steve Hutchinson. Casey Hampton. Nate Clemens. Deuce McCallister. Reggie Wayne. Todd Heap. OK, I agree. That was the worst ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewDago Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 That 60's draft is ancient history. Let's fast forward to the absolute worst Browns draft pick in modern history. I nominate 2001, hands down. Get ready to hurl. We took Fatso Gerrard Warren. Still on the board? LaDanian Tomlinson. Richard Seymour. Dan Morgan. Santana Moss. Steve Hutchinson. Casey Hampton. Nate Clemens. Deuce McCallister. Reggie Wayne. Todd Heap. jesus, that's ugly. you win this thread, hoorta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I started this, but I really have to agree with 2001. Some years, there is NOTHING in the draft when you look back at it.....not so 2001. Warren was a bust alright, magnified by PLENTY when you see who was still out there....OUCH!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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