DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/02/16/pope-denounces-beheadings-egyptian-christians-by-isis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 And Egypt is bombing said terrorists because Muslim or Christian, they are all Egyptians. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-mideast-crisis-libya-egypt-idUSKBN0LJ10D20150216 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'm happy to see that. Too bad they waited until they killed Egyptians to act. Egypt is at risk of ISIS also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Actually Egypt has been fighting terrorists in the Sinai Peninsula since 2011, who have since pledged allegiance to ISIS. ISIS might accomplish something nobody else has, though, and that's uniting the Arab countries against a common threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Osiris has anyone truly figured out what the fuck these guys want? I can't imagine that outside of an insane inner circle that anyone believes they are garnering goodwill east or west? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Osiris has anyone truly figured out what the fuck these guys want? I can't imagine that outside of an insane inner circle that anyone believes they are garnering goodwill east or west? WSS Hell if I know. The only thing I've heard is that they want to establish some sort of state of their own. They are the epitome of stupid because they are doing their best to piss off everyone and unite them. What I think they really want is to be feared and to make lots of money for themselves. They behave like a barbarian horde and so I have to assume they want what barbarian hordes want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Osiris has anyone truly figured out what the fuck these guys want? A new caliphate. They didn't get the memo that the Crusades ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I thought the Crusades came about because of the Muslims taking land to make a caliphate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/02/islamic-state-great-reward-for-killing-coptic-christians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Islam is a blight on humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Islam is a blight on humanity. So is ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 So is ignorance. The kind of ignorance that indicates "beheading infidels" is appropriate? Surely you're speaking on *that* type of ignorance, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Os, I ask again - what is it about the Koran that tens of thousands are reading into it this extremist, hideous justifications of raping, murdering by beheading, crucifixion, being burned alive crimes against humanity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Os, I ask again - what is it about the Koran that tens of thousands are reading into it this extremist, hideous justifications of raping, murdering by beheading, crucifixion, being burned alive crimes against humanity? Likely the parts where Muhammad is completely o.k. with butchering people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 The bible doesn't command it's insane followers to ambush non believers and slice at their necks. Sorry Osiris you're a nice guy but the thousands and thousands and thousands of muslims committing atrocities not crime but absolute atrocities every single day outweigh you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Face of Evil: Muslim would-be murderer of unbelievers, Terrence Thomas by Gina Cassini | Top Right News ISIS-style horror came to America’s heartland today, as a Muslim man tried to stab two people to death at a suburban Detroit bus stop after asking his victims whether or not they were Muslims. As the Washington Post reported: Both of the victims were standing at the bus stop outside of Detroit with the suspect on Saturday, Southfield Police Chief Eric Hawkins said. Several people there “engaged in conversation” until the suspect, identified by Hawkins as 39-year-old Terrence Lavaron Thomas, “asked some of the folks there if they were Muslims.” Two of the riders then answered him: They were not Muslims. “ Thomas was not not happy with that answer,” Hawkins said. The understatement of the year. Shortly after, “ without provocation,” Thomas pulled out a 3-inch folding knife “and attacked one of them,” Hawkins said. He did have “provocation.” They were non-believers, who perhaps may have speaking unfavorably of Islam.That’s all it takes. Just ask any ISIS savage, or the many French Muslims who defend the Charlie Hebdo killers. This is acceptable in Islam. Both victims are in their early 50′s. One was stabbed five times in the attack. The other was stabbed in the hand as he tried to stop the attack, Hawkins said. Both were released from the hospital with “non-life threatening injuries.” Thomas then fled the scene, Hawkins said. Police arrested him “within minutes.” He was carrying two knives — one of which appeared to be the one used in the attack — and some marijuana, according to Hawkins. Although authorities have not made a statement on the suspect’s motive, Hawkins added that “ we do know that he was not happy that [the victims] indicated that they were not Muslims.” Thomas “said that he was a Muslim,” Hawkins said. Thomas was charged with two counts of assault with intent to murder, one count of carrying a dangerous weapon, and one count of possession of a controlled substance — all state charges. Thomas could face a state charge of ethnic intimidation as well, Hawkins said, but county prosecutors were still determining whether it would be added or not. Michigan’s hate crimes law defines “ethnic intimidation,” a felony, as when a person acts “maliciously, and with specific intent to intimidate or harass another person because of that person’s race, color, religion, gender, or national origin.” Hawkins added that the FBI has been contacted about the case, and are “looking at it as a potential hate crime” to determine whether federal charges are warranted. Potential? If it wasn’t a hate crime, then throw away the statute. A clear, unequivocal, Muslim hate crime. Or, as Obama might put it: Extremist Job-Seeker‘s Outreach to RandomCrusaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 The bible doesn't command it's insane followers to ambush non believers and slice at their necks. I guess you didn't read the first half of it. 8 O daughter of Babylon, you [a]devastated one, How blessed will be the one who repays you With [b]the recompense with which you have repaid us. 9 How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones Against the rock. Psalms 137:8-9 That said, Christianity has grown out of many of its most barbaric practices, and the same can't be said for Islam. This extensive poll shows that the majority of Muslims believe Sharia law is the revealed word of God. Sam Harris said it best, "The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 And here's another publication from Sam Harris that was a response to the attacks on our embassies a year or two ago. It's a long read, but I think he hits the nail on the head. In recent days, crowds of thousands have gathered throughout the Muslim world—burning European embassies, issuing threats, and even taking hostages—in protest over 12 cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad that were first published in a Danish newspaper last September. The problem is not merely that the cartoons were mildly derogatory. The furor primarily erupted over the fact that the Prophet had been depicted at all. Many Muslims consider any physical rendering of Muhammad to be an act of idolatry. And idolatry is punishable by death. Criticism of Muhammad or his teaching—which was also implicit in the cartoons—is considered blasphemy. As it turns out, blasphemy is also punishable by death. So pious Muslims have two reasons to “not accept less than a severing of the heads of those responsible,” as was recently elucidated by a preacher at the Al Omari mosque in Gaza. The religious hysteria has not been confined to the “extremists” of the Muslim world. Seventeen Arab governments issued a joint statement of protest, calling for the punishment of those responsible. Pakistan’s parliament unanimously condemned the drawings as a “vicious, outrageous and provocative campaign” that has “hurt the faith and feelings of Muslims all over the world.” Turkey’s prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, while still seeking his nation’s entry into the European Union, nevertheless declared that the cartoons were an attack upon the “spiritual values” of Muslims everywhere. The leader of Lebanon’s governing Hezbollah faction observed that the whole episode could have been avoided if only the novelist Salman Rushdie had been properly slaughtered for writing “The Satanic Verses.” Let us take stock of the moral intuitions now on display in the House of Islam: On Aug. 17, 2005, an Iraqi insurgent helped collect the injured survivors of a car bombing, rushed them to a hospital and then detonated his own bomb, murdering those who were already mortally wounded as well as the doctors and nurses struggling to save their lives. Where were the cries of outrage from the Muslim world? Religious sociopaths kill innocents by the hundreds in the capitols of Europe, blow up the offices of the U.N. and the Red Cross, purposefully annihilate crowds of children gathered to collect candy from U.S. soldiers on the streets of Baghdad, kidnap journalists, behead them, and the videos of their butchery become the most popular form of pornography in the Muslim world, and no one utters a word of protest because these atrocities have been perpetrated “in defense of Islam.” But draw a picture of the Prophet, and pious mobs convulse with pious rage. One could hardly ask for a better example of religious dogmatism and its pseudo-morality eclipsing basic, human goodness. It is time we recognized—and obliged the Muslim world to recognize—that “Muslim extremism” is not extreme among Muslims. Mainstream Islam itself represents an extremist rejection of intellectual honesty, gender equality, secular politics and genuine pluralism. The truth about Islam is as politically incorrect as it is terrifying: Islam is all fringe and no center. In Islam, we confront a civilization with an arrested history. It is as though a portal in time has opened, and the Christians of the 14th century are pouring into our world. Islam is the fastest growing religion in Europe. The demographic trends are ominous: Given current birthrates, France could be a majority Muslim country in 25 years, and that is if immigration were to stop tomorrow. Throughout Western Europe, Muslim immigrants show little inclination to acquire the secular and civil values of their host countries, and yet exploit these values to the utmost—demanding tolerance for their backwardness, their misogyny, their anti-Semitism, and the genocidal hatred that is regularly preached in their mosques. Political correctness and fears of racism have rendered many secular Europeans incapable of opposing the terrifying religious commitments of the extremists in their midst. In an effort to appease the lunatic furor arising in the Muslim world in response to the publication of the Danish cartoons, many Western leaders have offered apologies for exercising the very freedoms that are constitutive of civil society in the 21st century. The U.S. and British governments have chastised Denmark and the other countries that published the cartoons for privileging freedom of speech over religious sensitivity. It is not often that one sees the most powerful countries on Earth achieve new depths of weakness, moral exhaustion and geopolitical stupidity with a single gesture. This was appeasement at its most abject. The idea that Islam is a “peaceful religion hijacked by extremists” is a dangerous fantasy—and it is now a particularly dangerous fantasy for Muslims to indulge. It is not at all clear how we should proceed in our dialogue with the Muslim world, but deluding ourselves with euphemisms is not the answer. It now appears to be a truism in foreign policy circles that real reform in the Muslim world cannot be imposed from the outside. But it is important to recognize why this is so—it is so because the Muslim world is utterly deranged by its religious tribalism. In confronting the religious literalism and ignorance of the Muslim world, we must appreciate how terrifyingly isolated Muslims have become in intellectual terms. The problem is especially acute in the Arab world. Consider: According to the United Nations’ Arab Human Development Reports, less than 2% of Arabs have access to the Internet. Arabs represent 5% of the world’s population and yet produce only 1% of the world’s books, most of them religious. In fact, Spain translates more books into Spanish each year than the entire Arab world has translated into Arabic since the ninth century. Our press should report on the terrifying state of discourse in the Arab press, exposing the degree to which it is a tissue of lies, conspiracy theories and exhortations to recapture the glories of the seventh century. All civilized nations must unite in condemnation of a theology that now threatens to destabilize much of the Earth. Muslim moderates, wherever they are, must be given every tool necessary to win a war of ideas with their coreligionists. Otherwise, we will have to win some very terrible wars in the future. It is time we realized that the endgame for civilization is not political correctness. It is not respect for the abject religious certainties of the mob. It is reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 The kind of ignorance that indicates "beheading infidels" is appropriate? Surely you're speaking on *that* type of ignorance, right? Ignorance is EXACTLY the problem behind these peoples actions. I've been saying that ever since I joined this board. I'm glad someone here is finally getting it. Os, I ask again - what is it about the Koran that tens of thousands are reading into it this extremist, hideous justifications of raping, murdering by beheading, crucifixion, being burned alive crimes against humanity? And I say again, nothing in the Quran justifies anything they are doing, in fact it forbids it. Likely the parts where Muhammad is completely o.k. with butchering people. There are no such parts. The bible doesn't command it's insane followers to ambush non believers and slice at their necks. Sorry Osiris you're a nice guy but the thousands and thousands and thousands of muslims committing atrocities not crime but absolute atrocities every single day outweigh you. Neither does the Quran. And you are wrong, there are hundreds of thousands of Muslim doctors, charity workers, scientists, lawyers, but for some reason you can't understand that your opinion is being shaped by media that disproportionately covers certain news stories. Anyway, I'm not changing anyone's mind here so you all enjoy yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 No Osiris my opinion is shaped by the hundreds of videos and pictures of the death cult of islam reveling in slaughtering innocent people. The media didn't make those up, muslims did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Qu'ran 9.5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Please do not answer with old testament bullshit. The old testament is completely repudiated by the new testament. No such new testament exists for islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Historically this is islam. Islam is death. It's not isis that's left the tenants of islam. It's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 This link has the actual decapitation footage. Graphic and sickening warning. But I think it should be seen to realize whom we are dealing with. http://www.infobae.com/2015/02/15/1627000-el-estado-islamico-difundio-la-decapitacion-21-rehenes-egipcios-libia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I've seen so many beheadings and that now that nothing is shocking anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 This is in revenge apparently for what they say is the forced reconnection to Christianity of two christians that they forced to convert to islam. So they murdered 21 guys in revenge for something they themselves do daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Thanks, Os, for replying, but Cysko is correct - the New Testament supercedes the Old Testament Law. Os, why is it that there are verses in the Koran that say to do this stuff, and whatshisname wrote a book about it - "Satanic Verses" whatever.... Seriously, what is the part of the Koran that supercedes those hostile verses...or what is the context that the ignorant murderous "new nazis" are missiing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 The Koran is supposedly the literal word of God. So there you have it. No interpretation necessary those verses spell it out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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