Mr. T Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 3,000 Mexican Soldiers Arrive By Convoy, Planes Juárez city officials said that within two weeks the anti-crime patrol force will number 8,000 -- including 5,000 soldiers, 1,600 city police and 1,000 federales. "We need the support of citizens united," Juárez Mayor Jose Reyes Ferriz, who has received death threats, said in a statement. "This is a fight of Juárez against crime. It is everyone's fight." The violence, which has claimed more than 300 lives this year in the Juárez area, continued during the weekend with at least nine homicides since Friday, including two police officers slain Saturday morning in the town of Praxedis G. Guerrero in the valley east of Juárez. http://www.elpasotimes.com/juarez/ci_11815696 A side of Cancun not seen during spring break http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/f...0,7050382.story Will the Mexican drug war run over into america? And if so will we send troops to our southern border? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB&J Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 It seems as if it has already spread into the United States. I saw on The News Hour a few weeks ago that there have been several hundred abductions in the US by the cartels. Pheonix has been hit really hard by it already. Here is an article and video with Gates on the subject of sending military aid: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7918101.stm I really think a big help would be to just legalize marijuana, I read an article earlier that said legalizing would cut the funds to the cartels in half. Does anyone think this could turn into some kind of 21st century Pancho Villa situation, with US troops chasing around the cartels around northern mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 It seems as if it has already spread into the United States. I saw on The News Hour a few weeks ago that there have been several hundred abductions in the US by the cartels. Pheonix has been hit really hard by it already. Here is an article and video with Gates on the subject of sending military aid: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7918101.stm I really think a big help would be to just legalize marijuana, I read an article earlier that said legalizing would cut the funds to the cartels in half. Does anyone think this could turn into some kind of 21st century Pancho Villa situation, with US troops chasing around the cartels around northern mexico? We have enough other social ills in our country before we start to legalize another substance that can be abused we should take a look around at what is going on with our youth. What we have in Mexico (drug cartel)is Greed taking advantage of our youth sucking the life out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 We have enough other social ills in our country before we start to legalize another substance that can be abused Name a few... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 We have enough other social ills in our country before we start to legalize another substance that can be abused we should take a look around at what is going on with our youth. What we have in Mexico (drug cartel)is Greed taking advantage of our youth sucking the life out of them. LOL, you think your son is NOT smoking weed because it's illegal? Come on your not that nieve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB&J Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Thank you, President Obama, for keeping your campaign pledge to end raids on medical marijuana dispensaries that are legal under state laws in California and elsewhere. Thank you for reversing an inhumane policy established by the Clinton administration and continued by the Bush administration. Given the experience you and other elected officials have had with illegal drugs and your willingness to challenge the status quo, now is the time to reconsider decades of prohibitionist drug policies that have succeeded only in massively increasing the toll of human misery, violence, and hypocrisy. As with alcohol prohibition, the drug war intensifies and exacerbates every negative outcome it is ostensibly designed to combat. President Obama, do the right thing and end the war on drugs. "Obama, You're No Stranger to the Bong" was written, performed, and edited by Paul Feine; special thanks to Alex Manning. http://reason.com/blog/show/132010.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 them bad bad drugs hurtin the kids..... protect the children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 EXCLUSIVE: 100,000 foot soldiers in cartels Numbers rival Mexican army http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/m...ers-in-cartels/ EXCLUSIVE: CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico The U.S. Defense Department thinks Mexico's two most deadly drug cartels together have fielded more than 100,000 foot soldiers - an army that rivals Mexico's armed forces and threatens to turn the country into a narco-state. "It's moving to crisis proportions," a senior U.S. defense official told The Washington Times. The official, who spoke on the condition that he not be named because of the sensitive nature of his work, said the cartels' "foot soldiers" are on a par with Mexico's army of about 130,000. The disclosure underlines the enormity of the challenge Mexico and the United States face as they struggle to contain what is increasingly looking like a civil war or an insurgency along the U.S.-Mexico border. In the past year, about 7,000 people have died - more than 1,000 in January alone. The conflict has become increasingly brutal, with victims beheaded and bodies dissolved in vats of acid. The death toll dwarfs that in Afghanistan, where about 200 fatalities, including 29 U.S. troops, were reported in the first two months of 2009. About 400 people, including 31 U.S. military personnel, died in Iraq during the same period. The biggest and most violent combatants are the Sinaloa cartel, known by U.S. and Mexican federal law enforcement officials as the "Federation" or "Golden Triangle," and its main rival, "Los Zetas" or the Gulf Cartel, whose territory runs along the Laredo,Texas, borderlands. The two cartels appear to be negotiating a truce or merger to defeat rivals and better withstand government pressure. U.S. officials say the consequences of such a pact would be grave. "I think if they merge or decide to cooperate in a greater way, Mexico could potentially have a national security crisis," the defense official said. He said the two have amassed so many people and weapons that Mexican President Felipe Calderon is "fighting for his life" and "for the life of Mexico right now." As a result, Mexico is behind only Pakistan and Iran as a top U.S. national security concern, ranking above Afghanistan and Iraq, the defense official added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Drop a couple of nukes, end of problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 We have enough other social ills in our country before we start to legalize another substance that can be abused Come on, T. You cannot make a statement like this and not name those other "social ills." So I ask again for you to name them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Come on, T. You cannot make a statement like this and not name those other "social ills." So I ask again for you to name them. Social Ills..... well how about this Star Trek Freaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm serious. The only reason I ask is because what some "hyper-moral" people find to be social ills is nothing more that bigotry wrapped with a cute red bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm serious. The only reason I ask is because what some "hyper-moral" people find to be social ills is nothing more that bigotry wrapped with a cute red bow. But there is a line somewhere that seperates particular amounts of one's life spent getting high or drunk no? At some point it becomes "immoral" even to you no? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Being responsible for one's self is important, you must know your limitations. And with some people booze or dope dosn't mix well at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Social ills aren't bigotry, that's way, way unnecessary. Abuse of alcohol, teen age pregnancies, gangs, illegal drugs, abuse of prescription drugs, sloth, apathy... in any society there are social anomalies to proper and self-edifying behavior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Why care if someone else chooses t ospend their life drunk and high? That's just less competition in the game of life for the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Why care if someone else chooses t ospend their life drunk and high? That's just less competition in the game of life for the rest of us. True 'stoners' are a lot more rare than you think. Most smokers are perfectly normal people and quite happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 True 'stoners' are a lot more rare than you think. Most smokers are perfectly normal people and quite happy. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 righties dont acknowledge that, though.... drugs are bad....cause the gov't told me. pot will kill your neighbor and rape your wife.... those that i talk with, that seem to have strong opinions against drug use, have never tried what they condemn. they base their beliefs from hearsay and propaganda.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 those that i talk with, that seem to have strong opinions against drug use, have never tried what they condemn. they base their beliefs from hearsay and propaganda.... I'm not sure I see what is wrong with this practice.... I know that eating arsenic will kill me, so I don't. I know that calling a black man an n-word will get me punched in the face, so I don't (not to mention a myriad of reasons I don't use the word). I know that exposing skin for extended periods of time when it's in the teens will get me frostbite, so I don't. In fact, just as the "true stoner" is a rarer entity than many might anticipate, the "reefer madness" set is even less common. A lot of people just don't like the lack of control they feel when under it's influence (or by observing others under its influence), so they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Since we know where everyone stands on dope, let hit the purpose of the subject on hand. What is going on in Mexico? Texas says they will defend the border and wont wait on Obama to act. Breaking News: Mexico revolting against tyranny not the cartels! its a civil war according to this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The corruption of gov officials allowed the cartel monster to grow huge and so out of control, "civil war" is pretty much accurate, I think. What a devasting result of politicians' greed and cowardice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Mexican gang activity seeping into Houston... http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metrop...an/6299436.html Mexican cartels infiltrate Houston Recent arrests in a mistaken killing point to the perilous presence of gangs The order was clear: Kill the guy in the Astros jersey. But in a case of mistaken identity, Jose Perez ended up dead. The intended target — the Houston-based head of a Mexican drug cartel cell pumping millions of dollars of cocaine into the city — walked away. Perez, 27, was just a working guy, out getting dinner late on a Friday with his wife and young children at Chilos, a seafood restaurant on the Gulf Freeway. His murder and the assassination gone awry point to the perilous presence of Mexican organized crime and how cartel violence has seeped into the city. Arrests came in December when police and federal agents got a break in the 2006 shooting as they charted the relationship and rivalries between at least five cartel cells operating in Houston. A rogue’s gallery of about 100 names and mug shots taken at Texas jails and morgues offers a blueprint for Mexican organized crime. Houston has long been a major staging ground for importing illegal drugs from Mexico and shipping them to the rest of the United States, but a recent Department of Justice report notes it is one of 230 cities where cartels maintain distribution networks and supply lines. At Chilos, the real crime boss was sitting at another table, as were two spotters. The hitman waited in the parking lot for Perez to leave the restaurant. “I just remember that guy coming up to us and he started shooting and shooting and shooting and never stopped,” said Norma Gonzalez, Perez’s widow. He was hit twice. “I know they will pay for what they have done, maybe in the next life,” she said of Perez’s killers. “I don’t know what is going to happen to them in this life.” This activity costs all of us taxpayers, Mexican hit squads, special task forces to investigate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 The filth is growing in America. We have to put a stop to these scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I'm not sure I see what is wrong with this practice.... your examples are completely valid, but there is one problem with the analogy. there is no dispute about what arsenic will do if youre exposed to it....yet, there is quite a bit of disparity between what the Fed (FDA) says and what people/independent researchers say. we know pot is good for some ailments, but the Fed would have you believe its as bad as coke. thus, preying on the fears of those with no real knowledge of the subject.....tell them it'll lead to teenage pregnancy and a life of crime, the sheep will believe it. i, on the other hand, know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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