Westside Steve Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Exactly what Steve just posted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Yeah?.. Try calling Matt Bahr a wimp.. He was a kicker on the Browns back in the 80's.. this kicker would tackle people.. wimps My ass... Anecdotes are the enemy of real analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Said exactly this for years. You've got 100 absolute gladiators killing each other for 60 minutes and the game is decided by the scrawny virgin guy. Ridiculous. Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 You have to give the Turtle man credit for reaping so many responses to such a stupid fucking question. WSS Last chance TurtleMan. Do we ever want to see 300lbs. Lineman trying to kick it between the Pipes at end of Camp. NNNNOOOOOOO!! Game Over!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Depends on how many vodka/sodas he has had that day. Or if he had any GHB in his system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Our leading receiver is 5'10" and 195 lbs. And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc. The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator. If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Sebastian Janikowski would beat the shit outta many NFL players You guys equate "this guy is a bigger badass than myself" with "this guy is a bigger badass than NFL players" way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canton Dawg Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Our punter and our kicker are both bigger than our backup QB and could probaly take him in a street fight. I have no doubt, CoonDawg could. Z I have to admit in over 50 years of watching the NFL, I can't think of another kicker getting a flag thrown for an unnecessary roughness penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 And he works his butt off, takes huge hits, deals with corners that try to punch him at the line, etc. The potential of a kicker getting hit, despite it rarely happening, doesn't make him a gladiator. If you want to argue for the kickers then just stick to the "it's always been this way, so it should stay this way." Don't try to equate the general toughness of kickers with the rest of the team. So kickers don't work their butt off? They don't take huge hits? I've seen just as many highlight videos of kickers getting blindside blasted as I have wide receivers. What's the matter, a kicker fuck your boyfriend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 1. No, they don't. Not nearly to the degree the real players do. 2. Really? Just as many? Even if I accept your premise which I don't, I'm not talking about blindside hits. Many open field tackles are big hits. 3. Not necessary. It's me you're talking to here. I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 I've seen too many incredible teams lose big games because the resident dork couldn't execute literally the only thing he has to do. but who's fault is that? the kicker that sucks or the coach that overlooks that aspect of the game? i mean just ask jim harbaugh and jimbo fisher along with all the other dopes that don't realize special teams play a HUGE importance of a football game. no field goals? how about no punts or kickoffs after a TD? so you can cut your roster by like 20 players. you have 4 downs and if you can't make it ten yards the other team takes over at that spot? cool. where are you living now, flippin mars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 It's incredible just how many threads when somebody eventually accuses someone they disagree with, of being gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 but who's fault is that? the kicker that sucks or the coach that overlooks that aspect of the game? i mean just ask jim harbaugh and jimbo fisher along with all the other dopes that don't realize special teams play a HUGE importance of a football game. no field goals? how about no punts or kickoffs after a TD? so you can cut your roster by like 20 players. you have 4 downs and if you can't make it ten yards the other team takes over at that spot? cool. where are you living now, flippin mars? To answer your first question: the kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 to answer the last question, surely he does.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 You guys equate "this guy is a bigger badass than myself" with "this guy is a bigger badass than NFL players" way too much. I get the "I will argue my point with rhetoric" idea but Janikowski is 6'1 260 with a history of bar room brawls. I'd go out on a limb and say I could kick Travis Benjamin's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Maybe, but he definitely could not catch it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Maybe, but he definitely could not catch it... No doubt, guy is a burner. If he was 3 inches taller and 40 pounds heavier we'd have our clear #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Lotta kickers out there benching 500 pounds that we don't know about? That's just a dumb post, it's way below the intelligence level of most your posts. Ordinarily you seem pretty rational. How many elite QB's are benching 500 lbs? Should we eliminate passing too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Maybe our badass WRs could get a bit tougher so they didn't fumble every other possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I get the "I will argue my point with rhetoric" idea but Janikowski is 6'1 260 with a history of bar room brawls. I'd go out on a limb and say I could kick Travis Benjamin's ass. No, you couldn't. He's from Miami. Auto-loss for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 to answer the last question, surely he does.... Does hippieville Austin count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 That's just a dumb post, it's way below the intelligence level of most your posts. Ordinarily you seem pretty rational. How many elite QB's are benching 500 lbs? Should we eliminate passing too?? You want to compare the hits quarterbacks take and the things they have to do and know with a guy whose only job is to kick? OK... Quarterbacks are some of the toughest guys on the field. I wouldn't want to take those blindside hits from pass rushers with bad intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Fact Kicking takes skills & adds to the game. The Onsides Kick.. Ask Jets & Colts got close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Without a kicker you'd see the browns get beaten 24 to 0 a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Without a kicker you'd see the browns get beaten 24 to 0 a lot. 21*-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 (or, more likely, after going for it on 4th down, 28-0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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