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Browns149 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 But the last time you posted something about Obama blocking the pipeline, you said it was because he's a racist. Well which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 without the pipeline, he's a racist. He was a racist in college, even before that. But he rejected the pipeline because: Pipe Specifications The following summarizes pipeline specifications for the Keystone XL Pipeline project. 1.0 DESIGN FORMULA The design parameters for steel pipe will be determined in accordance with the following equation: (See 49 CFR 195.106-Internal Design Pressure) P = 2St/D x F x E where: P = Internal Design Pressure, psig S = Specified minimum yield strength, psi D = Nominal outside diameter of the pipe, inches t = Specified wall thickness of the pipe, inches F = Design Factor E = Seam joint factor 2.0 DESIGN FACTOR DETERMINATION The design factor (F) will be determined as a result of conditions or a combination of conditions such as crossings, fabrications, station yards, and special areas. 2.1 Mainline and Station An application for a special permit, to allow the use of a design factor of 0.80, will be made to the Pipeline Hazardous Materials Safety Administration. The 0.80 design factor would be used for the mainline in all areas where normal installation methods and cross country conditions prevail. 2.2 Crossings and Fabrication Though a de-rated design factor is not specified by Part 195 for crossings and fabricated assemblies, a conservative design practice is considered prudent, therefore pipe installed at all highway, road and open cut waterway crossings will be of sufficient wall thickness and grade to effectively equate to a design factor 0.60. Directionally drilled waterway crossings, railroad crossings and all fabricated assemblies shall be designed using a design factor of 0.50. 2.3 Special Areas In addition to the correct application of the design equation, the designer shall ensure that the pipeline is designed with the public's safety in mind and in accordance with the principles of engineering science. The pipeline design shall provide adequate structural capacity to accommodate unusual site specific loading conditions in any areas of natural hazard encountered, particularly in areas of limited access. 3.0 LINE PIPE REQUIREMENTS Pipe for the U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline line shall be double submerged arc welded in accordance with API 5L Steel Pipe, latest edition. New steel pipe for the mainline shall be mill inspected by an authorized TCPL inspector and mill tested to API/ASTM specification requirements, as a minimum. If shipped by rail, the shipment shall be made in accordance with API Recommended Practice 5L1 specification latest edition, if shipped by barge or marine transport, the shipment must be in accordance with API Recommended Practice 5LW. 4.0 MINIMUM WALL THICKNESS AND YIELD STRENGTH Mainline pipe minimum wall thickness for the Keystone XL pipeline will be determined by the design formula, included in Section 1.0 and consideration of pipe structural integrity for shipping, handling, bending, welding, and installation/backfill in rugged terrain. The mainline pipe will be: 36" O.D. x 0.465" w.t., API 5LX-70 (0.80 design factor) 36” O.D. x 0.618” w.t., API 5LX-70 (0.72 design factor) 36" O.D. x 0.740" w.t., API 5LX-70 (0.60 design factor) 36” O.D. x 0.515” w.t., API 5LX-70 (0.50 design factor) 5.0 PIPE WALL THICKNESS TRANSITIONS End preparation will be done in accordance with API 1104 latest edition. 6.0 MINIMUM PIPE LENGTH Minimum pipe length to be installed on pipeline construction will be five (5) feet. This does not apply to fabricated assemblies or transition pieces. 7.0 PIPE BENDING The U.S. portion of the Keystone XL pipeline will utilize both field bending and 3D fittings in the construction of the pipeline. 8.0 COATING CONSIDERATIONS A. Below Ground Piping The primary coating for the exterior surface of below ground line pipe shall be fusion bonded epoxy (FBE) with a nominal 16 mil thickness and with a five inch (5") coating cutback at each end of the pipe joint. Welded field joints shall be protected with liquid epoxy or field applied FBE. Internal coating is not required for this project. Line pipe installed in a bored or directional drill crossing coated with FBE and an over coat of abrasion resistant coating. . C = color, white or gray - designating application, Line pipe installed in marshes and wetlands subject to flooding for extended periods of time and beneath uncased drainage canals and ditches, and rivers and streams installed by the open-cut method will be externally coated over FBE coating with reinforced concrete or concrete weights installed to provide the pipe with a minimum specific gravity of 1.10 in fresh water. B. Above Ground Piping All above grade, uncoated piping and appurtenances shall be sandblasted clean, primed and painted in accordance with Keystone XL painting specifications. Colors shall be specified by Keystone XL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Let me try to grasp what you are trying to say here. It's kind of making my head hurt, but here goes: 1st, you claim Obama rejected the pipeline because he's a racist. Then you claim that's not why, but Obama is a racist, because he's racist 2nd, you claim Obama rejected the pipeline because Warren Buffett will lose billions of dollars. Now 3rd, you claim Obama rejected the pipeline because he doesn't like the specs of the plan. Man, you sure have a lot of voices running through that head of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Cal types better than I do so let's simplify. Obama loves crony capitalism and hates the white man. He praises Allah when both attitudes converge. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Don't all politicians like crony capitalism? That's how they all get elected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Don't all politicians like crony capitalism? That's how they all get elected Sure it is. But that's what Obama ran against, right? Those damn corporate Republicans! WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 of course he ran against the same thing Both parties wouldn't exist without cronyism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 LIBERAL KNEE JERK ALERT You didn't read it, 149. I added this to the specs: "C = color, white or gray - designating application". The pipe isn't black... per my added specs...so he hates it. You didn't read it. I eve hit enter before I added it for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I did read it And, like I said, he doesn't like the specs. You are the one that has made 3 claims, so far why, Obama rejected the project. I'm sure there will be many more coming. Talk about knee jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 no knee jerk. You have understand the definitions of words before you use them. I know you libs love to make up the definitions after the fact, but dang, give the rest of us a break. You can look em up online, ya know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 So... It wasn't because he's racist? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ok cal I took your advice and looked up "knee-jerk" It states, Knee-jerk,(of a response) automatic and unthinking That is almost every post you have on this forum. You just automatically post endless drivel without thinking for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 it's amazing how they have convinced impressionable fish like Cal that this pipeline was going to save our entire economy. It was going to make a few people a lot of money, as is usually the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 it's amazing how they have convinced impressionable fish like Cal that this pipeline was going to save our entire economy. It was going to make a few people a lot of money, as is usually the case. I don't even think it's about the economic impact; I think it's more along the lines of "since the Democrats are against it, I'm for it". If the parties were reversed, with the GOP against it and Democrats for it, Cal would be against it too, and try to make it out as some "Lib/Obamao/Higgerty" conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I don't even think it's about the economic impact; I think it's more along the lines of "since the Democrats are against it, I'm for it". If the parties were reversed, with the GOP against it and Democrats for it, Cal would be against it too, and try to make it out as some "Lib/Obamao/Higgerty" conspiracy. That's probable. The division in this country is such that both left and right do things solely to defy each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Knee jerk Get an email with the picture in the OP attached. Agree with the picture. Post picture. Easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Nope. Accusation not true. It's shown to be false, because when I make statements, you libs challenge them.... what happens? I post sources and articles all over the place, showing that it isn't just me that says what I say One more time - I read a LOT... I find a lot of the stuff interesting. IOW,s I can back up what I think, by explaining why, and backing it up with a lot of information. You libs parrot the lib powers that be....just exactly like you stopped saying "man made global warming"... and you followed their lead, and started saying "climate change".... because climate does change, and the earth ain't mmgw, even though CO2 has been climbing. Answer it, or shove it. But ignoring it just make you libs look like you have rocks for brains. And, egg on your faces, you hate that, and try to pretend I posted egyptian hieroglyphics... but it's you libs that are all wet in Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Stuart Love how the liberal monkeys here deflect from the facts outlined in the meme and try and make "what Cal did wrong this time" the focal point. Typical libfucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I don't even think it's about the economic impact; I think it's more along the lines of "since the Democrats are against it, I'm for it". If the parties were reversed, with the GOP against it and Democrats for it, Cal would be against it too, and try to make it out as some "Lib/Obamao/Higgerty" conspiracy. Stuart Kinda like if that meme was anti GOP, you'd be all over it instead of ignoring it? An stop with your simpleton logic. The GOP could never be against the Keystone. There is a reason each party exists. Both adhere to certain principles and have their own ideology. There is the right and there is the wrong. There are names we have for GOP members that veer away...they're called RINOS and suckups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 it's amazing how they have convinced impressionable fish like Cal that this pipeline was going to save our entire economy. It was going to make a few people a lot of money, as is usually the case. Stuart Conversely, it's not amazing that a libfuck can never resist including hyperbole or sensationalism in a debate...who the fuck said the Keystone would save the entire economy? If the facts stated in Cals meme were anti-GOP, you'd be on it like a flies on shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Knee jerk Get an email with the picture in the OP attached. Agree with the picture. Post picture. Easy Stuart Easier...Facts can be a bitch, ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I don't think you understand what a meme is. But nevermind. I accept your point that nobody has addressed the point made in the OP. The problem is, cal posts so much stuff every single day that people have grown tired of pointing out where he's wrong, and so don't even bother trying any more. On this issue alone, as has been pointed out, he's tried to make two distinct 'THIS is why Obama vetoed keystone' points, and what I think was a joke about specs (in yet another large and pointless text dump). At this point, he's like the boy who cried wolf. If he ever actually came up with a legitimate point, it would be lost in the torrent of blaze-bart regurgitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Also you can probably drop the stuart thing now. Anybody who knows you as stuart knows it's you. Anybody who didn't know stuart won't care. Up to you though, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Stuart or cal Disprove that the statement that you hate everything liberals stand for and automatically oppose anything they do on that basis by naming some things you agree with the other party on For instance: I have no problem with gay marriage. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 cal states he reads a lot. That I totally believe. See, there is something we agree on. As for the original picture that was posted,( not a meme, by the way) I'm sure it's true that Buffett would lose billions from the pipeline taking away his railroad business. But I don't think that is why Obama didn't approve it. Just like I don't think Obama said no to the pipeline because he's racist. I think he didn't approve it because, he thinks the reasons for the pipeline don't outweigh the risk to the environment. Which to me, is a stupid reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Why should I answer that when I've posted about that, just like mmgw farce, a lot? Seriously? You haven't read what I've posted on the subject every time the stupid subject comes up?????? Then I can't bother to engage you in a legit converstation. Yeah, I know, you're a half-lib, and I was leaving you alone, too, until you decided to start crap with me. It's been done before. "yawn". (there is no such thing as "gay marriage" - it's a farce. I understood the need to define civil unions. Sound familiar?) (and no, if libs started caring about unborn children and were against most all abortion, I would agree with them) (and, if the libs started to be Americans instead of leftist cult followers and supported our military, I'd agree with them). see the trend here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 cal states he reads a lot. That I totally believe. See, there is something we agree on. As for the original picture that was posted,( not a meme, by the way) I'm sure it's true that Buffett would lose billions from the pipeline taking away his railroad business. But I don't think that is why Obama didn't approve it. Just like I don't think Obama said no to the pipeline because he's racist. I think he didn't approve it because, he thinks the reasons for the pipeline don't outweigh the risk to the environment. Which to me, is a stupid reason I think you are naive. Whether or not it's a tip of the hat to Warren Buffett it most certainly is, as so many have stated here before, resistance based mostly upon the fact that the Republicans seem to want it. Being against anything the opposing party proposes is nothing new.. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Why are we still enabling this steeler troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Why are we still enabling this steeler troll? Because we can put aside footballing rivalries to discuss actual important things? Like how people aren't putting aside political rivalries to discuss actual important things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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