Mudfly Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Looks like Thomas and Mack are back in.... http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Joe-Thomas-Alex-Mack-named-to-2016-Pro-Bowl/ac5753e0-6600-455d-a3d6-b4acafa8213f and Benji, Barn and Bademosi are alts.... None of last years 3 db's made it.....surprise, surprise..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Barnidge had a much better year than Travis Kelce. Barnidge 9 TDs/ 930 yards Kelce 4TDs/1067yds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Barnidge had a much better year than Travis Kelce. Barnidge 9 TDs/ 930 yards Kelce 4TDs/1067yds Actually ... Barny:68- 930 - 13.7 - 9 Kelce: 65 - 822 - 12.6 - 4 Beats him in every category and catched TDs with his balls. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm a little surprised at Mack... better 2nd half of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm a little surprised at Mack... better 2nd half of the season? Its one of those cases where he gets voted in on his name and reputation. Same with Thomas. They were not Pro Bowl caliber this year. Pro bowl is a joke nowadays, Id like to see it voted on by people actually in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Barney 1 TD away from breaking Ozzie's TD's in a season with 10. G. Olsen & Kelce MAYBE better all around at position when you add in blocking but you cannot block down field nor blitz in a Pro Bowl. As a Browns fan you do not want players decided by league nor league members. The Pro Bowl is now the worst of all All Stars Game in all sports because the rules of it takes the actual game away. As a star of the game they should be embarrassed to show up but some go cause they see the fans want them their. When others decide not to go for money as a participate Trophy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 When you look at the tight ends on the SB roster, theres a good chance a couple of them will be busy that week (NE,Car,Cin, KC) and Barny is an alternate, so he may get that birth after all. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 When you look at the tight ends on the SB roster, theres a good chance a couple of them will be busy that week (NE,Car,Cin, KC) and Barny is an alternate, so he may get that birth after all. Z Cleveland - Pro-bowl TE factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm a little surprised at Mack... better 2nd half of the season? Me too......very surprised, actually..... Honestly thought Thomas would be the only one...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Barnidge should have been in, too. That's wrong that he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm a little surprised at Mack... better 2nd half of the season? Reputation I fear......and lack of quality alternates. (Maurkice Pouncey out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Like a high school popularity contest. Mack and Thomas made it on their names, while Barney should've made it on his play..... What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 What about Schwartz? I thought he deserved it over Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 And NWA into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 And NWA into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Straight out of Parma! Cleveland - Pro-bowl TE factory. lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 So, here are my questions on Mack, if anyone knows about specifics of his contract situation..... a ) Since he's under contract. should it be assumed he cannot negotiate(or shop himself) with other teams?....I know he has an opt out, so Im guessing he has to opt out first and become a FA?.....anyone know? B ) His contract goes through 2018 or 19.....so can he opt out every year going forward, or is this the only year and if he doesnt use it he stays the term?....curious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Doug Dieken: Thomas, Mack Made Pro Bowl With “Technique And Tenacity”, Not Simply Names « @CLETalkingHeads PODCAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 So, here are my questions on Mack, if anyone knows about specifics of his contract situation..... a ) Since he's under contract. should it be assumed he cannot negotiate(or shop himself) with other teams?....I know he has an opt out, so Im guessing he has to opt out first and become a FA?.....anyone know? B ) His contract goes through 2018 or 19.....so can he opt out every year going forward, or is this the only year and if he doesnt use it he stays the term?....curious.... Per my understanding: A) he would need to first opt out. I'm sure his agent will be doing things on the sly though and he wouldn't opt out without interest. it's only this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 40% of our o-line makes the Pro Bowl, yet we can't run or keep a QB healthy......... Guess our RBs really are that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 B.) it's only this year. So this is the last opt out... interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 So this is the last opt out... interesting... So franchise/transition tag is not an option? He's the one guy l really think they need to make sure is around. This year was a step back but l think next year he will be a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 So franchise/transition tag is not an option? He's the one guy l really think they need to make sure is around. This year was a step back but l think next year he will be a beast. Not an option because it isn't an expiring contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Me too......very surprised, actually..... Honestly thought Thomas would be the only one...... I'm surprised as well. Apparently Mack turned it on during the latter part of the season, but admittedly, evaluating the center position is beyond me. I saw him make a pretty crucial gaff a few weeks ago that resulted in an immediate sack, but who doesn't make errors? It's safe to say that Mack is gone after this year IMO, and honestly, who can blame him? So you're saying I can go make big bucks at a team with a good chance of winning and that isn't a drama fest? Umm...sign me up, right? Just need to hope Erving is THAT much better at the center position, and the offseason will give him a chance to correct his technique and/or strength issues. The good thing about Cam is that he's a notorious hard worker, so perhaps he can significantly raise his level of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Per my understanding: A) he would need to first opt out. I'm sure his agent will be doing things on the sly though and he wouldn't opt out without interest. it's only this year. Thanks..... Been hearing he's a lock to leave.....and he has repeated that winning is a BIG part of his decision.....so, in my mind, he is likely to leave..... But....damn....he has a great contract thats paying him $8 million for 3 more years.....and he would have to void that just to see what someone else is willing to pay him...... Thats a big big BIG gamble on his part......should be interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Mark Bravado and Eric Heiden were two really good tight ends. Also, back in Jim Brown's day, that guy Gary Collingsworth was really good. I like the Mark Bravado moniker. And Eric Heiden was a big Nazi, wasn't he? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Heiden And just to set the record straight.....Gary Collins was worth a lot. He was a great WR for the Browns. Still holds the Browns record for TD catches. And the TEs back in JBs days were Johnny MilwaukeeBrewer and Milt Moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Thanks..... Been hearing he's a lock to leave.....and he has repeated that winning is a BIG part of his decision.....so, in my mind, he is likely to leave..... But....damn....he has a great contract thats paying him $8 million for 3 more years.....and he would have to void that just to see what someone else is willing to pay him...... Thats a big big BIG gamble on his part......should be interesting.... That's the one thing that might keep him here. It works in our favour he has had a down year as he'd struggle to get the same on the open market. That being said, I'd be truly flabbergasted if he stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/when_it_comes_to_alex_mack_the.html Interesting article including that ProFootballFocus.com ranked Alex among the "five players who shouldn't have made the Pro Bowl." PFF's nominee in an answer to Gip's poll question? The Vikes' Joe Berger... https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/23/pro-5-players-who-shouldnt-have-made-the-pro-bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/when_it_comes_to_alex_mack_the.html Interesting article including that ProFootballFocus.com ranked Alex among the "five players who shouldn't have made the Pro Bowl." PFF's nominee in an answer to Gip's poll question? The Vikes' Joe Berger... https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/23/pro-5-players-who-shouldnt-have-made-the-pro-bowl Read another article with an opposite twist, suggesting 2 of our guys got snubbed...... First is Barney, of course....and.....wait for it, cause everyones gonna think Benji.....But its SCHWARTZ!..... BAZINGA!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Schwartz has improved every year he's been here. He's the kind of player we need to retain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Its one of those cases where he gets voted in on his name and reputation. Same with Thomas. They were not Pro Bowl caliber this year. Pro bowl is a joke nowadays, Id like to see it voted on by people actually in the league totally agree. mack got smacked around just about all yr...man he was terrible. jt i thought did not have a probowl yr either...although not as bad as mack was. Name and reputation is what it is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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