darren15 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago Redskins and QB Kirk Cousins have broken off contract talks, per team source. No further talks scheduled. Should we jump in with an offer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 They will likely give him the franchise tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Should we jump in with an offer ? No... and not just because to do so now would be against league rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 No... and not just because to do so now would be against league rules... I watched very little of Cousins. What is your apprehension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 General weariness (and wariness) of one-year wonders... especially ones that appear they are going to be expensive. I actually do see a lot of Brady-ish promise in Kirk, but after one season it is still "ish" and it is still promise. Were he our question mark I would throw the tag on him (albeit maybe the non-exclusive one) and in effect say " here's your top-five money, now do it again and we'll talk". But I would never offer a multi-year deal with top ten money in it based upon one season. Just my take... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago Redskins and QB Kirk Cousins have broken off contract talks, per team source. No further talks scheduled. Should we jump in with an offer ? Hell yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 They'll franchise him so it's a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Cousins 1 and 8 against teams with a winning record and that one win came against the 1 & 0 Rams............nope I'll pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 You guys wouldn't know a good qb if it landed on ya. Cousins would be a great pickup. But ya he'll get the tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 something about him bothers me. I dunno, maybe it was that golden boy matter of factness in a press conference right after they got their asses handed to them and he played like shit. I'd rather have a guy that sat annoyed and pissed off in a post game presser after an embarrassing loss than some dude who sounds like he's giving a post game report for ESPN. It was almost like he didn't have anything to do with the loss. Why i had "zero" issue with Cams behavior after the superbowl. Losing the SB "should" bother a mother fucker to the point he aint' good company for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 No thank you. QB at #2 and McCown to groom him - that's the best plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browns52 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago Redskins and QB Kirk Cousins have broken off contract talks, per team source. No further talks scheduled. Should we jump in with an offer ? he'd be the best qb we have had since the return, but that is not saying much now, is it? you like that...heheheheeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I agree with the concern about overpaying for a 1-year wonder - or overpaying for a no-year wonder (Osweiler). Cousins reminds me of a younger Brian Hoyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 one year wonders bother me too.....cant think of many that have ended up being great, but can come up with a few who were signed to big $ and then flopped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Cousins as a backup?...Fine Cousins getting NFL vet starter QB $...No thank you. Certainly not yet. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Cousins reminds me of a younger Brian Hoyer Really I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 You guys wouldn't know a good qb if it landed on ya. Cousins would be a great pickup. But ya he'll get the tag. Ozzy has already told you. Here, Hit this than pass Him Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 one year wonders bother me too.....cant think of many that have ended up being great, but can come up with a few who were signed to big $ and then flopped... I mean really- he's not getting out of Washington, so Cousins to the Browns guys can keep dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Cousins reminds me of a younger Brian Hoyer. Better arm... more fire... not seeing it... one year wonders bother me too.....cant think of many that have ended up being great, but can come up with a few who were signed to big $ and then flopped... I'll spin... Is there a "D"? I'd like to buy a vowel. Is there an "A"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Better arm... more fire... not seeing it... 7-game wonders? Maybe the mental lapses. I'm not sure where I was going with it. I don't have a lot of confidence in him, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Ozzy has already told you. Here, Hit this than pass Him Down Cough cough... Kirk who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkid3 Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 No. Cousins is not a franchise qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 you guys obviously haven't seen the nfc east (being in ohio and all). kirk cousins, by himself has lifted the redskins from a dan snyder shit team to a contender. if you haven't seen him float a touch pass over the shoulder to his receiver 40 yards down the field then you're frickin blind. tell me when brian hoyer was ever capable of doing that AND stand in the pocket with out happy feet or throwing off his back foot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 No. Cousins is not a franchise qb ok. then either draft you're fuckin franchise QB and shut up about bosa or make a deal for some serviceable guy that can go a season without getting broken in half. what's YOUR choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 one year wonders bother me too.....cant think of many that have ended up being great, but can come up with a few who were signed to big $ and then flopped... Well if they had other good years they're not one year wonders. So this is kind of a self-answering question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Well if they had other good years they're not one year wonders. So this is kind of a self-answering question. My comment was in the context of this discussion....big $ contract awarded following one and only solid season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I would say there's about a 95% chance Cousins stays in Washington. I'm not buying the whole "contract talks are broken off" line. I think that might be just a bargaining ploy done by the agent, and what would Washington gain by breaking off talks? What would Cousins gain by it? No, they are still talking to each other, I don't care what information is reported. Washington doesn't want to go back to RG III, and Cousins played better than just about any QB in the entire damn league during the last 10 games of the season. Additionally, the franchise price for a QB is probably $20 million....for ONE YEAR. Nobody wants to pay that, and the front office will do anything they can to lock up Cousins, who appeared to thoroughly enjoy his time in Washington. All of this is just posturing. However...if my concocted percentages are correct, and obviously I just made them up (LOL), that leaves a 5% chance he goes elsewhere. Should that happen, he would obviously be the most coveted QB in the market, and there are several teams that would make silly offers to him because QB's are just too damn precious in the NFL. Many teams have to draft a guy, deal with his learning pains, and take the "wait and see" approach. Other lucky teams get guys like Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, and Alex Smith. The talented free agent QB is the unicorn of the league, and they are as valuable as they are rare. These guys can choose from a variety of locations, and let's just say that Cleveland isn't generally number one on their list. Regardless of how you feel about Cousins, the Skins would be fools for not doing everything they can to keep the guy. Is Cousins worth $20 million a year? Of course not, but $20 million IS worth knowing you won't have to be searching for your QB (if that makes sense). Think about it...what would our team pay to FINALLY have the QB conundrum solved? What REALLY hurts is that multiple sources reported the Redskins were shopping Cousins for a while, and they were asking for a second rounder (I don't remember the specific details, but I'm pretty sure I'm right). I believe the Browns were interested, but obviously didn't pull the trigger. This was obviously before Cousins' recent success, so I can see why we didn't, but it just goes to show you how inept we are at identifying talent. Sure, Cousins was a turnover machine, but was there a way to look past that and see what the guy could do? I don't know, but hopefully we have the right guys in our town to finally get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 "what would Washington gain by breaking off talks? What would Cousins gain by it?" Jiggles - I have a feeling this ends with a franchise tag, and a 'lets see if you can do that again' season for Cousins in washington. Both parties are happy with that I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 "what would Washington gain by breaking off talks? What would Cousins gain by it?" Jiggles - I have a feeling this ends with a franchise tag, and a 'lets see if you can do that again' season for Cousins in washington. Both parties are happy with that I think. I totally agree. The only, and I mean ONLY problem with that tag option is the price. That's why I made up the tiny 5% chance he doesn't stay, LOL. But like I said...what's it worth to not have to worry about your QB issue? Hell, we'd gladly pay $20 million to not have to talk about the QB for a year or two! Washington is yet another example of how valuable the WR truly is. Cousins started really playing well after about week 6 I think, and that's pretty close to when Desean Jackson came back healthy (I believe Jackson came back later, but whatever). The point is, Desean Jackson came back healthy and it opened up the deep ball for the Redskins, which opened up other things. Hell, it seemed like just about every week for the last 7 weeks Desean had a long bomb for a TD. The big play WR is so important, and here's to hoping we have ours back...healthy...sober...and ready to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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