sdballis Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Via ESPN: "The Browns have informed the 12-year veteran that they will be releasing him, a source told ESPN's Pat McManamon. Dansby played all 16 games last season for Cleveland." Analytics must say an old guy getting that much money doesn't match up..
TypicalBrowns Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Well he only was the best linebacker and defensive leader on the team the last 2 years. Idk
Mudfly Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Dansby quote...."I bet the Bengals are licking their chops right now. Time for me to go get a ring"......arghhh I also heard some buzz that Whitner could be next.....
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling?
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Why is anyone shocked? Guy is in his mid 30s and they are rebuilding. I wouldn't be shocked to hear about Whitner getting released.
The Gipper Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Dansby quote...."I bet the Bengals are licking their chops right now. Time for me to go get a ring"......arghhh I also heard some buzz that Whitner could be next..... Well, I think we knew that they were talking about getting rid of their older players. Dansby and Whitner both fell off last year. They must think that they can do as well at MLB with the two guys they signed, Davis/Tuggle, as they could with Dansby and Robertson....and they may be right.
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling? Yeah I don't see how anyone is shocked. The guy is in his mid 30s and the direction of the FO seems to be towards going with youth.
gftChris Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair.
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair. What is the market for a 34 year old linebacker? And was he really that good or just good compared to the turds around him?
calfoxwc Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 well, the status quo has to change, and come older, expensive players have played tough for us, but they have to have lost a step. If they can be replaced by a younger, faster player for a lot less money... it makes sense. You just have to bring in the right players, who love the game, and are hungry to win.
Osiris Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling? Yeah I don't see how anyone is shocked. The guy is in his mid 30s and the direction of the FO seems to be towards going with youth. My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode. Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded. My biggest hope is that the analytics department in Berea has been able to show Haslam that the players THEY (not Farmer and Pettine both who ignored the analytics) would've picked the past two years have turned out to be successful. If this is the case, I'd be more optimistic that the new FO knows how to draft.
Mike H Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Another overrated (good, but overrated) player on a bad defense. He's going to be 35 in November. Can't say I'm shocked. But I think ILB just became a huge priority in draft and there are some talented Day 2 guys. Plus Myles Jack.....
calfoxwc Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick. But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode. Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS ***************************** I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here. You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him, or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up without matching. The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays, because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers. Say it ain't so, Joe !
Osiris Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick. But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode. Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS ***************************** I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here. The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays, because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers. Say it ain't so, Joe ! I'd be disappointed, but not shocked. They almost traded him last season, and if they really are in full rebuild mode, he's the only player on the roster that would net a first-round pick in trade. I don't WANT this to happen, just think it is possible that it will.
LogicIsForSquares Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Miles Jack looks like he's going to be a top ten pick, maybe top five pick. But "My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode. Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded." OS ***************************** I would be shocked out of my chair. It is too tough to find a solid LT in the NFL. Look at where Tunsil may go = #1 overall. JT is the glue that holds the locker room and the oline together. It's far easier to find a RT and a C. JT wants to stay here. You would just doom the Browns to have to spend a future higher draft pick to replace him, or pay dearly for a FA that everybody else wants, and the current team won't give up without matching. The only way it would happen, is if Joe Thomas gives up on the Browns and wants a trade, and in that case, I would probably only listen to the games and keep busy out in the garden on Sundays, because our qb will get injured pretty quickly, and Wentz will be too, and it will be a disaster not good for watching in my camo recliner with a cold root beer and a couple of grilled burgers. Say it ain't so, Joe ! The Browns QBs were already taking a beating. I won't be shocked if they try to move him to get more draft picks.
darren15 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Joe Thomas must be thinking get me the fuck out of here ....... Haden next
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 My guess is some folks still haven't accepted/realized that we are in full rebuild mode. Public Service Announcement: Don't be surprised if Joe Thomas gets traded. You and a couple others have finally gotten thru to me... even accepted that for a decent price, Joe is gone. Maybe both Joe's... Another overrated (good, but overrated) player on a bad defense. He's going to be 35 in November. Can't say I'm shocked. But I think ILB just became a huge priority in draft and there are some talented Day 2 guys.. Disagree, Mike... at worst I think the FO believes we have just made an even swap, so any ILB need assessment is unchanged.
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 What is the market for a 34 year old linebacker? And was he really that good or just good compared to the turds around him? Compare his statistics to that of, say, Brian Urlachers. Dansby has always been an upper-echelon LBer, in my eyes.
Clevfan4life Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Donte Whitner, Paul Kruger, Barky Mingo....COME ON DOWN BOYS you're the next contestants on who can we get the fuck out of Cleveland sooner.
Mike H Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 You and a couple others have finally gotten thru to me... even accepted that for a decent price, Joe is gone. Maybe both Joe's... Disagree, Mike... at worst I think the FO believes we have just made an even swap, so any ILB need assessment is unchanged. I don't believe they are comfortable with Kirksey -- a guy they didnt pick -- Davis, and Tank Carder as their corps ILB group to build around.
Mike H Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Donte Whitner, Paul Kruger, Barky Mingo....COME ON DOWN BOYS you're the next contestants on who can we get the fuck out of Cleveland sooner. Add Joe Haden and then the purge will be complete. The only problem is the cap penalty for releasing him, and the fact no one would take his contract in a trade.
calfoxwc Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 but that was over the RG position, and gaps right of center. Almost never, because of tackle play on either side. Except for when Cam Irving went in at LG I think it was.
Clevfan4life Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Add Joe Haden and then the purge will be complete. The only problem is the cap penalty for releasing him, and the fact no one would take his contract in a trade. eh not so sure. I think now is the time obviously to trade him. I think he has some value. Wait another year or so and he's another 1-2 concussions deep into the protocol than obviously no
D Bone Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Honestly? Y'all did not even have an inkling? No kidding. I read it on Yahoo and came here knowing that the sky would be falling.
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 I don't believe they are comfortable with Kirksey -- a guy they didnt pick -- Davis, and Tank Carder as their corps ILB group to build around. Comfortable? No... agree they are not comfortable. As I have said forever, a 3-4's strength has to be it's LB corps. Ours clearly was not and still is not. Just saying the change after swapping Davis for Dansby is not significant.
TexasAg1969 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Sure. But he's a good player - we couldn't have gotten something in a trade? I'm guessing they tried, to be fair. Well Denver released 33 y.o. TE Owen Daniels and no one has claimed him either. It's a business.
Mike H Posted March 16, 2016 Report Posted March 16, 2016 Comfortable? No... agree they are not comfortable. As I have said forever, a 3-4's strength has to be it's LB corps. Ours clearly was not and still is not. Just saying the change after swapping Davis for Dansby is not significant. Swapping Davis for Dansby still leaves a gap. I'm guessing they'll take a ILB in the first 4 rounds, and he'll be Davis' eventual replacement in two years, unless they bring him back. But I don't think the 2-year deal means they signed him with long-term in mind.
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