bbedward Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 On TPP: "This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements"- 2012 She’s also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership- 2013 But wait... Hillary Clinton Opposes [...] Trans-Pacific Trade Deal- 2015 On North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Clinton [praised] corporations for mounting “a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA.- 1998 Another source "I think everybody is in favor of free and fair trade. I think NAFTA is proving its worth"- 1996 However "NAFTA was a mistake"- 2007 On Colombia Free Trade Agreement Clinton reiterates opposition to Colombia trade pact- 2008 Until as secretary of state, Clinton was personally lobbying Democratic members of Congress to support the deal- 2011 On Raising Payroll/Social security Taxes "I'm certainly against [...] lift(ing) the cap on the payroll tax"- 2008 But wait... [Clinton would] be open to a Social Security tax increase- 2015 On Assad "Many of the members of Congress [...] have said they believe he's a reformer"- 2011 Until "Assad was the principle threat, because his bombarding, and his ruthless behavior toward his own people, was going to create more terrorists- 2015 On lifting Cuba embargo "I’m not ready to vote to lift the embargo."- 2000 Clinton said now is "not the time to consider wholesale or broad changes to our Cuba policy."- 2008 However Cuba embargo is a "failed policy"- 2014 On the Keystone XL Pipeline Clinton was seen as initially favoring construction of the pipeline- 2010 Until "I oppose [the pipeline] because I don’t think, I don’t think it’s in the best interest of what we need to do to combat climate change."- 2015 On Deportation of Illegal Immigrants Clinton is "adamantly against illegal immigrants."- 2003 But wait... She has advocated an immigration policy that would go further [...] to shield some illegal immigrants from deportation- 2015 On Driver's Licenses for Illegal Immigrants Clinton now Against Licenses for Illegal Immigrants- 2007 However This time, Hillary Clinton supports giving driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants- 2015 On Federal Gun Control Blanket rules set by the federal government on guns "doesn't make sense."- 2008 Another source- 2008 Until Clinton proposes using executive action as president to expand background check requirements- 2015 On Gun Ownership and Culture Gun ownership, hunting "part of culture. It’s part of a way of life."- 2008 But wait! Clinton said Tuesday that gun culture in the U.S. has become "way out of balance."- 2014 On Gay Marriage "Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman"- 2000 Marriage is "a sacred bond between a man and a woman."- 2004 In response to a question about whether marriage should be made legally available to two committed adults of the same sex, Clinton marked that she was "opposed"- 2007 However After leaving her position as secretary of state, she announced her support for same-sex marriage- 2013 On Mass Incarceration and Minimum Sentences [Clinton] explicitly attacked then-competitor Senator Barack Obama for being soft on crime. After the Iowa primary, her campaign said Obama's opposition to mandatory minimum prison sentences was an example of his out-of-touch liberalism- 2008 Until [Clinton wants to] End the era of mass incarceration, reform mandatory minimum sentences- 2015 On the Coal Industry "...we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business"- March, 2016 But wait... "I’ve been talking about helping coal country for a very long time"- May, 2016 she says she wants to see coal "continued to be sold and continued to be mined."- May, 2016 On Her Political Leanings "You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center," Clinton told the audience at a Women for Hillary event in Ohio. "I plead guilty."- September, 2015 However "I’m A Progressive"- October, 2015 On No Child Left Behind Votes for No Child Left Behind- 2001 Until Hillary Clinton talks negatively about NCLB, wants to replace it- 2015 On Ethanol Mandates Hillary Clinton against ethanol mandates, 'voted against ethanol 17 times'- 2000 - 2007 But wait! Clinton stressed the importance of the corn-based energy product, saying the U.S. needed to work on "limiting our dependence on foreign oil. And we have a perfect example right here [...] with all of the ethanol that’s being produced here." On Flip Flopping Some people might say a person's opinion on topics changing throughout the years is understandable. Hindsight can allow for reflection and new knowledge or public opinion can help shape a new position on a topic. Except that "I have been very consistent," Clinton said, arguing her unyielding fealty to "the same values and principles" over her entire life.- 2015 Apparently it's possible to flip flop on many, many topics but yet also be consistent and stick to the same values and principles throughout one's life. --- I saw this on reddit and thought it was worth posting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh792mKpyn8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 even jane "the traitor" fonda had a few redeeming qualitys as a "human being"... higgardly has none. How anyone can be in her camp.... I just don't get it....at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Uh yeah barbarella? Id say redeeming. She could have been full blown vietcong and still.....that barbarella though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh792mKpyn8 Stuart Another instance in which the democrat run mainstream media protects democrat scum...only hecklers at Trump rallies make the news. Everybody adores Hillary, that shit never happens to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Barbarella.... it showed her sensitive, intellectual human side...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 I'll just say this. Firstly, I disdain Hillary just as much as I abhor Trump. However, with that being said posting stuff about she changed positions on matters isn't really more than "meh" for me. If you look up ANY politician with longer standing, even a dude like Bernie, you could dig up pretty easily multiple occasions where they formally changed their views. That's just how it goes when it amounts to pandering for votes based on the flavor of the people at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 I'll just say this. Firstly, I disdain Hillary just as much as I abhor Trump. However, with that being said posting stuff about she changed positions on matters isn't really more than "meh" for me. If you look up ANY politician with longer standing, even a dude like Bernie, you could dig up pretty easily multiple occasions where they formally changed their views. That's just how it goes when it amounts to pandering for votes based on the flavor of the people at the time. I'd say flip flopping isn't a big deal, but Hillary is running as a far left progressive when a few years ago she was a moderate. I'm looking forward to Trump grilling her about the TPP in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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