BrownB499 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Now that the Cards have decided to entertain trade talks for WR Anquan Boldin I would think both the G-Men and the Eagles will go all out to bring this guy to their offense. Wouldn't this then put pressure on the odd out team to make the trade to bring in Edwards? Kind of a NFL version of keeping up with the Joneses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sez.EJ Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Now that the Cards have decided to entertain trade talks for WR Anquan Boldin I would think both the G-Men and the Eagles will go all out to bring this guy to their offense. Wouldn't this then put pressure on the odd out team to make the trade to bring in Edwards? Kind of a NFL version of keeping up with the Joneses I kind of hope it decreases the value..we keep him and re-sign him and let him score 15 td's a year for us instead of NY or Philli. I have no idea if we have made him an offer? I have not heard that we have even tried (which is stupid)... but UNLESS he absolutely refuses to resign with us.. trading this guy is absolute madness. We already have no #2, # 3 or# 4 wide recievers. (david patten? steptoe? yeah right...) we have a couple of #5's and a few guys that could not make the roster on any other team. I suppose we are going to draft 4 recievers in this draft or something.. This regime is wacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Boldin is a damn beast, but he is a whiny bitch. BE can be a beast but he has to work on his concentration, I bet BE is moved before Boldin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownB499 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 keep him and re-sign him and let him score 15 td's a year for us instead of NY or Philli. Agree I really thought that would be the case all along but I'm afraid this may up the offer high enough that Mangini won't pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I kind of hope it decreases the value..we keep him and re-sign him and let him score 15 td's a year for us instead of NY or Philli. for the last freaking time. braylon will not sign back with us. after this year he will be gone. we need to get something for him now instead of letting him go for nothing at the end of next season. get that through you're heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmedowns Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 for the last freaking time. braylon will not sign back with us. after this year he will be gone. we need to get something for him now instead of letting him go for nothing at the end of next season. get that through you're heads I am new here so I apologize if this has been said, but if we trade Braylon who in the world are we going to throw the ball to???? Syndric freaking Steptoe? Cause you already know (at least I hope so) that a rookie will not come in and be good as a #1. We are not to bright here. Trade the only valuable pieces that you have on your team..... Winslow, Edwards, Quinn etc. VERY SMART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownB499 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I hear Burris is looking for work. Wonder if he can make through a season without shoot'n himself.... or a team mate... or a fan.... Maybe he and Stallworth could get some kind of weekend work release ? of course in Stallworths case he'd actually have to do something that resembled work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I am new here so I apologize if this has been said, but if we trade Braylon who in the world are we going to throw the ball to???? Syndric freaking Steptoe? Cause you already know (at least I hope so) that a rookie will not come in and be good as a #1. We are not to bright here. Trade the only valuable pieces that you have on your team..... Winslow, Edwards, Quinn etc. VERY SMART i get what you are saying but the belief is that you trade braylon for a 1st round pick and something more. with that we pick up crabtree or maclin and then take defense with the other pick. welcome to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geech Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I am new here Welcome! Are you the same Liftmeups that posted on the ABJ boards a few years back? -Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Boldin is not the same receiver he was after the big hit he took last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebBrownsFan Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I kind of hope it decreases the value..we keep him and re-sign him and let him score 15 td's a year for us instead of NY or Philli. I have no idea if we have made him an offer? I have not heard that we have even tried (which is stupid)... but UNLESS he absolutely refuses to resign with us.. trading this guy is absolute madness. We already have no #2, # 3 or# 4 wide recievers. (david patten? steptoe? yeah right...) we have a couple of #5's and a few guys that could not make the roster on any other team. I suppose we are going to draft 4 recievers in this draft or something.. This regime is wacked. ManKok has no reason to come in and resign BE to the type of money he wants, without seeing for themselves how he is going to fit with the scheme and coaches. If they really want him after the season then they'll tag and work on a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmedowns Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 i get what you are saying but the belief is that you trade braylon for a 1st round pick and something more. with that we pick up crabtree or maclin and then take defense with the other pick. welcome to the board. Thanks. I look at taking crabtree is the same as when we took Braylon. He will take time to develop. Braylon is STILL developing. He is right there as far as being an elite WR in this league. But you are right. He does not want to be here and we can still franchise him and trade him next year. Like Cassell this year. Still take Crabtree put him at #2 and we can see what we really got. If we trade Braylon forget whoever is QB this year. He (Quinn, DA, God) will get run out of town. We can still salvage this season. Its not like we are the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmedowns Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Welcome! Are you the same Liftmeups that posted on the ABJ boards a few years back? -Al Yes sir. I see that you are still trucking along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sez.EJ Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 ManKok has no reason to come in and resign BE to the type of money he wants, without seeing for themselves how he is going to fit with the scheme and coaches. If they really want him after the season then they'll tag and work on a deal. Nebraska: Finally someone is making some sense on this board!!!!!! THANK YOU!!! Braylon is in a contract year. He has all the incentive in the world to come in and light it up (in Cleveland) to increase his value for the next contract. We do hold the right to Franchise him ,which would be the smart thing for us to do.. If he lights it up here... it only gives him more incentive to stay here and play.. and for us to pay him. Clevelandfanforlife.. You keep ragging on and on about that Braylon will not sign here.... WHAT PROOF do you have that Brayon will not sign here? I have seen no evidence of that. He has never said that, his agent has never said that, and the Browns have never said that he is unwilling to re-sign here. . He has a contract currently and he is a Brown...There is no reason to give this guy the bums rush out the door. Nebraska has the right Idea..let him play out the current deal and see what happens after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcrow1945 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 ManKok has no reason to come in and resign BE to the type of money he wants, without seeing for themselves how he is going to fit with the scheme and coaches. If they really want him after the season then they'll tag and work on a deal. I think you suggestions makes sense....But let's say BE has an average season...Not as bad as the 2008 season but not nearly as good as the 2007 Season.....Let's say he has 64 Receptions and 8 TD's. Are you willing to make a WR with those numbers a franchise player which would pay him as one of the top WR's in the NFL? I really don't think he's signable....I think he's going to want to leave and will only stay if forced to under a franchise tag. I was just wondering what your thoughts are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Bottom line is Edwards's stock just went down, because it is supply and demand. NY won't trade for Edwards without him agreeing to a new contract. He wants more then Boldin wanted from AZ. Philly is in good enough draft position to draft a WR for a hell of a lot less money and no baggage. They even have enough picks to jump up for one of the premier WRs. I don't see anyone else trying to outbid the Giants for Edwards. So, if Boldin is really on the trade market, it isn't real good news for the Browns. Or, maybe it is if you want to keep Edwards. BTW Clayton reported that Edwards was seeking somewhere in the $10 million per year neighborhood. That is what was holding up the trade. Don't know waht AZ wants for Boldin, but it has to be more then the 1st and 3rd Cleveland was asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownB499 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Clayton reports that AZ wants 1st & 3rd for Boldin Just for arguments sake(fantasy land)say the Browns could catch up with Pitts. with the acquisition of one more player who is available,we could get him with a 1st & 3 rd and are 1st is 20 something , as fans we'd be screaming to make the trade. What you think the fans in NY and Philly want their teams to do There is nobody in this draft in Boldins level right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebBrownsFan Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I think you suggestions makes sense....But let's say BE has an average season...Not as bad as the 2008 season but not nearly as good as the 2007 Season.....Let's say he has 64 Receptions and 8 TD's. Are you willing to make a WR with those numbers a franchise player which would pay him as one of the top WR's in the NFL? I really don't think he's signable....I think he's going to want to leave and will only stay if forced to under a franchise tag. I was just wondering what your thoughts are. In this game its a chance that a team takes. Personally I don't think BE wants to be in Cleveland for two reasons. One, his comments about the the supposed comments fans have made to him and his family, and Two, I think he wants to take his talent to a bigger media stage, the kind that NY will give him. The current problem with BE is he feels he deserves top 5 money, and he really hasn't put up top 5 numbers or performances, consistently (key word here), to warrant it. So I'm torn between trade him while you can and keep him because it is a contract year and then try like hell to sign him if he does light it up. The other unknown factor here is the CBA. Right now its very likely that BE will only be a RFA next year, in which case you max tender him and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebBrownsFan Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Bottom line is Edwards's stock just went down, because it is supply and demand. NY won't trade for Edwards without him agreeing to a new contract. He wants more then Boldin wanted from AZ. Philly is in good enough draft position to draft a WR for a hell of a lot less money and no baggage. They even have enough picks to jump up for one of the premier WRs. I don't see anyone else trying to outbid the Giants for Edwards. So, if Boldin is really on the trade market, it isn't real good news for the Browns. Or, maybe it is if you want to keep Edwards. BTW Clayton reported that Edwards was seeking somewhere in the $10 million per year neighborhood. That is what was holding up the trade. Don't know waht AZ wants for Boldin, but it has to be more then the 1st and 3rd Cleveland was asking. I totally agree with you Ytown. With the Cards announcing Boldin being on the market, I think BE's stock takes a hit. Now the Giants can play the teams against each other if they so desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I totally agree with you Ytown. With the Cards announcing Boldin being on the market, I think BE's stock takes a hit. Now the Giants can play the teams against each other if they so desire. his stock may be down, but teams like the giants and eagles are still panicking because they still want receivers. this could increase the number of teams that are interested in braylon though. boldin will probably be the more coveted guy which would make some of the smaller market teams to join in the braylon sweepstakes. teams like the jaguars and titans can get involved now. look for them to be involved in rumors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I think the Giants are convinced that without a Buress type receiver they cannot get back to their old dominant form. so how badly do they want a "burres"-que receiver will determine their interest. If I were Giants head I would make the trade giving Browns 1 and 3 round draft picks. Giants are more of a finished product needing just a few missing piece and this draft has nothing for them in WR that can make them get back to the way they were. But I guess a more informed fan would know If im right or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebBrownsFan Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I think the Giants are convinced that without a Buress type receiver they cannot get back to their old dominant form. so how badly do they want a "burres"-que receiver will determine their interest. If I were Giants head I would make the trade giving Browns 1 and 3 round draft picks. Giants are more of a finished product needing just a few missing piece and this draft has nothing for them in WR that can make them get back to the way they were. But I guess a more informed fan would know If im right or not. One of the comments I have seen, I think it was on PFT.com, was that the Giants rate Boldin as the better receiver, but that BE is better at stretching the field. So it may come down to what the Giants decide they need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 look for the cowboys to be interested in boldin. one thing you have to remember when trading boldin is that he wants a new contract today. the cowboys will probably be willing to give him that. also because he wants that new contract it could make braylon's stock higher because he isn't asking for a new contract. in a way, braylon's stock could be higher than boldin's if you look at the economics of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebBrownsFan Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 look for the cowboys to be interested in boldin. one thing you have to remember when trading boldin is that he wants a new contract today. the cowboys will probably be willing to give him that. also because he wants that new contract it could make braylon's stock higher because he isn't asking for a new contract. in a way, braylon's stock could be higher than boldin's if you look at the economics of the two. Actually I have seen reports that one of the key things holding up a BE trade is his demands for a new contract, in the 10 mill a year range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Actually I have seen reports that one of the key things holding up a BE trade is his demands for a new contract, in the 10 mill a year range. Boldin also wants $10 mil a year for 4 years. Close to the same as Fitzgerald's contract and AZ won't give it to him. No way I give Edwards $10 million a year until he would prove he can be a consistant receiver without all the BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebBrownsFan Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Boldin also wants $10 mil a year for 4 years. Close to the same as Fitzgerald's contract and AZ won't give it to him. No way I give Edwards $10 million a year until he would prove he can be a consistant receiver without all the BS. Have heard, so it will be interesting to see what happens. I don't recall, is Boldin tagged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Have heard, so it will be interesting to see what happens. I don't recall, is Boldin tagged? No, he still has two years left on his contract but says he wants a new contract or he may not play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 what happens if no suitors come for either of them ? will they have to just shut up and play ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 what happens if no suitors come for either of them ? will they have to just shut up and play ? This is the same BS that Boldin was saying before last year's camp started. Then he played, just like Edwards will do if he isn't traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 sounds like a plan I wouldn't mind trading him but at 26 years and good athleticism he is a better bet than Boldin .. although Boldin is the more reliable one. I hear that along with Philly and Giants even Oakland are on the look out for WR's ... they have a nice position in the draft ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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