calfoxwc Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I can't wait til the decision to let the dishonest, lottery seeking gay left be dictitorial over an entire institution of Real Marriage is reversed someday. (EDIT - lost part of what I intended). http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/04/christian-artists-face-jail-time-for-refusing-to-make-same-sex-wedding-invitations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I do think there's a hypocrisy at work here because we know this stunt wouldn't be tried on muslims. Jail is a ridiculous notion for this offense. But if you don't take the job why in the world would you say it's because they're gay? Just say you've already got too much on your plate you don't think you could make the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So there was a law in place saying they couldn't do something. They did it anyway, and then hid behind their religion. Are religious beliefs grounds to ignore laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 the accurate question is, what business does the government have, of forcing anyone to betray their legitimately held moral and religious beliefs? it's a bad law, plain and simple, that forces the majority to accept the fringe as tyrants. It's the leftwing, culture-undermining, social engineering intimidation of the rest of the majority. There is no freedom when you are demanded to be enslaved by a fringe group, even to the intended point of violating your own morals and beliefs. Natually, the question is, what are legitmate, established beliefs, and what are not. The answer, offhand, is, other peoples' beliefs stop at other peoples' beliefs. If I'm the Christian baker, I decide not to betry my belief in Real Marriage, my business. Someone else has no right to force me to betray my beliefs. Likewise, I have no right to deny them their belief system. Let them do what they freakin want to do, let the rest of America do what THEY want to do. Anything else is legal and social intimidation of one set ? of beliefs upon another. That isn't freedom for the ones who are allowed/forced, to be intimidated. You want to open a gay bakery and only bake cakes for gay couplings, have at it, most of America couldn't care less. Just STFU and get out of everybody else's faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So you're above the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Cal is Steven Seagal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So you're above the law? so, you are an asswhole birdbrain? stop changing the subject, dumbfook. I said it's a bad law. I said nothing about defying the law, asswhole. It's.........................a..............................bad............................law. Bad laws infringe on the LEGIT freedom of people to have free religious beliefs, etc. nothing about being above the law, dumbfook birdbrain. Did you come back to just screw up the board some more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 so, you are an asswhole birdbrain? stop changing the subject, dumbfook. I said it's a bad law. I said nothing about defying the law, asswhole. It's.........................a..............................bad............................law. Bad laws infringe on the LEGIT freedom of people to have free religious beliefs, etc. nothing about being above the law, dumbfook birdbrain. Did you come back to just screw up the board some more? I came back to call out bullshit when I see it. Surprisingly enough, that's pretty much all of your threads... If you think the law should have a religious exception, then you are still saying you think christians and their beliefs should be above the law. I think hiding behind religious beliefs as a way to discriminate against people is pretty fucking low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Cal is Steven Seagal. only when cornered on my best day.... https://youtu.be/ldQrapQ4d0Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I can't wait til the decision to let the dishonest, lottery seeking gay left be dictitorial over an entire institution of Real Marriage is reversed someday. (EDIT - lost part of what I intended). http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/04/christian-artists-face-jail-time-for-refusing-to-make-same-sex-wedding-invitations/ And fags wonder why normal people hate their guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 In other news: Not dressing melania trump because it conflicts with your values "not bigotry" http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/18/refusing-serve-customers-dont-agree-suddenly-cool/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 In other news, gay people aren't gay by choice. Melania is married to Trump by choice. Trump is a bigot by choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I get what you're saying but it's the exact same logic and therefore it's bigotry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's not really the same logic though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 In other news, gay people aren't gay by choice. Melania is married to Trump by choice. Trump is a bigot by choice. Bigot? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Bigot? WSS Oh I'm sorry, am I not allowed to say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's not really the same logic though... How is it not the same logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I want to see these mental gymnastics at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Oh I'm sorry, am I not allowed to say that? You can say anything you want my friend. I was just curious as to what brought you to that conclusion. That's all. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's against the law to discriminate based on inherent characteristics - gender, age, race, sexuality, and I'm sure if you tried to refuse service to people based on them being over 7' tall you'd be in trouble too (unless it's a theme park and it's for safety reasons for example). Into which of these categories does Melania fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It's against the law to discriminate based on inherent characteristics - gender, age, race, sexuality, and I'm sure if you tried to refuse service to people based on them being over 7' tall you'd be in trouble too (unless it's a theme park and it's for safety reasons for example). Into which of these categories does Melania fall?Not to go all lefty on you and pretend I don't know where you're going but in specific which of these applies to Donald Trump?But thank you for the obligatory swipe at his old lady. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 No. You're falling back on laws instead of logic. It may not be against the law to discriminate against her but the logic is exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Not to go all lefty on you and pretend I don't know where you're going but in specific which of these applies to Donald Trump? But thank you for the obligatory swipe at his old lady. WSS He's not the one being 'discriminated against' here? But I guess age. How many people have you come across saying he's unfit to be president because of his age? I'm guessing not many since it's the same as Hillary almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 No. You're falling back on laws instead of logic. It may not be against the law to discriminate against her but the logic is exactly the same. OK, I'm saying the law is logical. FWIW I'm also gonna saying it's douchey to refuse service based on being married to Trump, and even more so to do it without being asked by Melania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Someone else has no right to force me to betray my beliefs. Likewise, I have no right to deny them their belief system. Let them do what they freakin want to do, let the rest of America do what THEY want to do. Anything else is legal and social intimidation of one set ? of beliefs upon another. Wow... I know I've been gone a while, but not that long... When did your epiphany on abortion rights take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 OK, I'm saying the law is logical. FWIW I'm also gonna saying it's douchey to refuse service based on being married to Trump, and even more so to do it without being asked by Melania. The law that allowed George Zimmerman to get away with the Trayvon Martin situation is logical. I don't recall many lefties falling back on the law under those circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 The law that allowed George Zimmerman to get away with the Trayvon Martin situation is logical. I don't recall many lefties falling back on the law under those circumstances. I'm not talking about that law. I'm talking about the one in question. If I rewrite the post but replace 'it's against the law' with 'one should not be allowed' does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 He's not the one being 'discriminated against' here? But I guess age. How many people have you come across saying he's unfit to be president because of his age? I'm guessing not many since it's the same as Hillary almost. Okay, sorry I guess I really don't understand where you are going with this. Since you called him one maybe you can finish this sentence: Donald Trump is a bigot because (I think you lost me with the age discrimination hook Oh, I thought you were going with the immigration gag) WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Okay, sorry I guess I really don't understand where you are going with this. Since you called him one maybe you can finish this sentence: Donald Trump is a bigot because (I think you lost me with the age discrimination hook Oh, I thought you were going with the immigration gag) WSS Yeah I think you're thinking I was talking about something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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