gumby73 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 outscored 193-87 after Half Time.3 times Browns have been shutout in 2nd half.We outscored 1 Team Bengals 10-3 Once.Browns scored most 2nd Half points @ Titans still losing 2nd Half total 13-14.Most points Browns giving up 2nd Half was to Jets 24.Baltimore 22.Both at Home. Browns have scored 10 points twice,11 & 13 once in 2nd Half. 13 of 14 games Browns give up about 14/game on average after Half..Browns may see O-10 points. May want to just have a picnic under goalpost at Half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 outscored 193-87 after Half Time.3 times Browns have been shutout in 2nd half.We outscored 1 Team Bengals 10-3 Once.Browns scored most 2nd Half points @ Titans still losing 2nd Half total 13-14.Most points Browns giving up 2nd Half was to Jets 24.Baltimore 22. Browns have scored 10 points twice,11 & 13 once in 2nd Half. 13 of 14 games Browns give up about 14/game on average after Half..Browns may see 7-10 points. May want to just have a picnic under goalpost at Half And when was the last time we had the lead? Even if it did only last a minute. It reminds me of a Stepian style of ownership...Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 We have a bunch of 22-23 year olds playing against teams full of 27-28 year olds. Yeah, around the halfway mark, our guys start to get a little beat up and lag a bit. It's not surprising. We will probably have second half issues for 2017 and 2018 as well while we wait for this group to mature. Free agents could change that dynamic a bit. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 outscored 193-87 after Half Time.3 times Browns have been shutout in 2nd half.We outscored 1 Team Bengals 10-3 Once.Browns scored most 2nd Half points @ Titans still losing 2nd Half total 13-14.Most points Browns giving up 2nd Half was to Jets 24.Baltimore 22.Both at Home. Browns have scored 10 points twice,11 & 13 once in 2nd Half. 13 of 14 games Browns give up about 14/game on average after Half..Browns may see O-10 points. May want to just have a picnic under goalpost at Half this whole 2nd half thing is a new phenomenon......we had a way of roaring back just a couple seasons ago.....wish we still had that kinda backbone now..... Cant say what the difference is tho.....could just be a lack of leadership in the lockerroom.....no old timers to show the kids the way...which is my guess.... Of it could be coaching?.......poor conditioning?.....poor game planning/adjustments?.......kids w/o talent or legs?...... Choose your poison...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 this whole 2nd half thing is a new phenomenon......we had a way of roaring back just a couple seasons ago.....wish we still had that kinda backbone now..... Cant say what the difference is tho.....could just be a lack of leadership in the lockerroom.....no old timers to show the kids the way...which is my guess.... Of it could be coaching?.......poor conditioning?.....poor game planning/adjustments?.......kids w/o talent or legs?...... Choose your poison...... The defense being gassed in the second half has always been the MO of a Ray Horton defense. I just wish I could think of an excuse for the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 I just wish I could think of an excuse for the first half. because we can't draft worth a shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 this whole 2nd half thing is a new phenomenon......we had a way of roaring back just a couple seasons ago.....wish we still had that kinda backbone now..... Cant say what the difference is tho.....could just be a lack of leadership in the lockerroom.....no old timers to show the kids the way...which is my guess.... Of it could be coaching?.......poor conditioning?.....poor game planning/adjustments?.......kids w/o talent or legs?...... Choose your poison...... We have a bunch of 22-23 year olds playing against a bunch of 27-28 year olds. Couple years ago we had a significantly older team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 We have a bunch of 22-23 year olds playing against a bunch of 27-28 year olds. Couple years ago we had a significantly older team. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 What's your problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Cant say what the difference is tho.....could just be a lack of leadership in the lockerroom.....no old timers to show the kids the way...which is my guess.... We have a bunch of 22-23 year olds playing against a bunch of 27-28 year olds. Couple years ago we had a significantly older team. well...hell just froze over....cause we almost agree.... I just wish I could think of an excuse for the first half. there isnt one....except.....the plan..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 there isnt one....except.....the plan..... "THE PLAN" should have it's own thread. Could provide some really neat conspiracy theories to laugh about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 The "after halftime struggles" are beyond maddening, and the 3rd quarter numbers are just awful. I forget the exact stat, but at one point during the season we had so few points during the 3rd quarter, that it about made me cry. And here's what's even MORE frustrating. Two weeks in a row now, we got a rare 3rd quarter touchdown, and cut the lead to 7 points or so. Then we did NOTHING. Take the Bills game for example. We score a touchdown, cut the deficit to 7 points, and then our defense does absolutely nothing, and the Bills run up the damn score. We were only down 7 points! That's the time to create a turnover, get that sack-fumble, or even make that play for a pick-6. SOMETHING to take momentum and push the tide toward taking control of the game. But we never do that. We never string together big plays. It's so...frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 The defense being gassed in the second half has always been the MO of a Ray Horton defense. I just wish I could think of an excuse for the first half. Not that a failure of 3-and-outs by the D is not a contributor, but when they are also the O's MO, then gassed happens... Works in the first half, too... at least for Q2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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