jbluhm86 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 http://www.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1711UI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 See, he cant take responsibility for the failure of the healthcare bill.....which even "the usuals" here werent sure about. Amash is right, its a little child who didnt get his way. Instead of realizing that when far right republicans wont repeal obamacare that they've been dying to do for years now, because what u offered was worse....you take it as a personal affront........i mean this is not presidential. This isnt leadership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 There might also be a side note here not openly obvious. Some republicans in DC, obviously being privy to alot of things we're not, are getting cold feet on trump and the possibility of collusion with russia. This is pure guess/speculation, but there seems to be rising opposition to trump in the republican ranks, subtly. And as far as the info that we know of, theres really only one reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 See, he cant take responsibility for the failure of the healthcare bill.....which even "the usuals" here werent sure about. Amash is right, its a little child who didnt get his way. Instead of realizing that when far right republicans wont repeal obamacare that they've been dying to do for years now, because what u offered was worse....you take it as a personal affront........i mean this is not presidential. This isnt leadership Actually leadership includes a point in which you say fuck you assholes. Go ahead show off and cut your own fucking throat you dimwits. Good luck sucking hind tit to the Socialists in two years. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ryan was the key person behind this bill. Trump had very little to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Its trumpcare not ryan care. Its every bit trumps responsibility as obamacare was obamas. We're not changing the rules for trump. If he didnt like the bill he could have said so and threatened to veto it. Because he didnt do that it means he was on board with it. The fact he's going after these republicans means he was super on board with it. Period! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ryan was the key person behind this bill. Trump had very little to do with it. Basically no president of the United States has much more influence on bills and laws and shit like that than Tony the Tiger has in the ingredients in Frosted Flakes. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Actually leadership includes a point in which you say fuck you assholes. So he's ceasar now is he? Didnt u just spend 8 years pasting that attribute to the colored feller? We're a democracy steven, one man doesnt make all the rules. Did u know that?☕️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Basically no president of the United States has much more influence on bills and laws and shit like that than Tony the Tiger has in the ingredients in Frosted Flakes. WSS No no. The rules from the padt 8 years have not changed. Its "trumps" healthcare. 6 years ago the failings of obamacare were laid squarely on Barack fucking obama. If my nemory setves me correct was not obamacare rejected the first time as well? Was obama not also mocked for that given he had the house and senate? No rule changes, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 So he's ceasar now is he? Didnt u just spend 8 years pasting that attribute to the colored feller? We're a democracy steven, one man doesnt make all the rules. Did u know that?☕️Because you're an idiot you don't know the difference between what I say and what other people say. I don't expect any better from you because as I said well...Personally I don't give a fuck about democracy. All I'm saying is these jerk-offs have guaranteed that nothing even close to what they want will ever come to pass. That's the way it is, sorry conservatives. In two years the Democrats will sweep the House and Senate and the entire country will be shit out of luck. Of course it's Cysko's kids and whoever elses kids that will have to eat the shit. And at the end of the day the country has been through worse shit. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 No no. The rules from the padt 8 years have not changed. Its "trumps" healthcare. 6 years ago the failings of obamacare were laid squarely on Barack fucking obama. If my nemory setves me correct was not obamacare rejected the first time as well? Was obama not also mocked for that given he had the house and senate? No rule changes, sorry No it wasn't rejected they had a majority in the House and Senate it just took them a year and a half to scrape it together because they had no idea what they wanted. Besides enjoying the flavor of Obama's cock you have no idea what his plans were. Anyway even after the year and a half it was so fucked up and could bring it forth except by patchwork. Obama just took credit for it he had no idea what was in it. Anyway it's yours now. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 you don't know the difference between what I say and what other people say. WSS Wut? I guess im guilty of attributing non quoted sentences which give no indication of a 3rd party source, to their authors. Stupid me i guess Lols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Instead of realizing that when far right republicans wont repeal obamacare that they've been dying to do for years now, because what u offered was worse Wow, that seems almost impossible to conjure up something worse than Obamacare. What specifically was worse? I was under the impression that the far right simply was all or nothing and that was unattainable. Love to hear your inside information on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Wut? I guess im guilty of attributing non quoted sentences which give no indication of a 3rd party source, to their authors. Stupid me i guess Lols No idea what you're talking about but I don't think you can find any post or I said the idea that Obama was a dictator. He's an empty suit. That's it. He reads A teleprompter well.Actually the people who worship Him are much more obnoxious than he is. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 No idea what you're talking about Ditto. U said i dont know the difference between what u say and what others say. So how bout u just say nothing? Sound good? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I'm glad the conservatives are holding back from supporting until the bill is better. Paul Ryan sucks, and experts in the field didn't like everything in the rep bill, either. Trump is wrong on this one. This bill is already a lot better bill for the conservatives holding out, and it's nonsense that the hc bill can't be passed a month later when they fix it. That is what the dems did, again, they passed a giant piece of crap, happily, not knowing what was in it, out of political benefit. Paul Ryan and some others would make the same mistake, albeit not as arrogantly, or stupidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ur not entirely wrong cal. I think though they fastracked it knowing they had to pass something while they had the seats. I think they figured once they passed it the stupid shit would eventually get ironed out. And tbh, if trumpcare gets passed and retains some of the good things from the ACA, than in essence it worked out as planned. I have to read more why some of the republicans balked on trumpcare. I know these freedom caucus guys just wanted a full repeal, they didnt even want the popular stuff like pre existing conditions retained. And that was one thing that had immense bi partisan support. Now there were ither republicans that i heard were grumbling about some stuff dealing with the elderly that they thought were non starters. So i dunno, more reading required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ur not entirely wrong cal. I think though they fastracked it knowing they had to pass something while they had the seats. I think they figured once they passed it the stupid shit would eventually get ironed out. And tbh, if trumpcare gets passed and retains some of the good things from the ACA, than in essence it worked out as planned. I have to read more why some of the republicans balked on trumpcare. I know these freedom caucus guys just wanted a full repeal, they didnt even want the popular stuff like pre existing conditions retained. And that was one thing that had immense bi partisan support. Now there were ither republicans that i heard were grumbling about some stuff dealing with the elderly that they thought were non starters. So i dunno, more reading required But this is exactly the platform they ran on and received record numbers with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 But this is exactly the platform they ran on and received record numbers with. I dont entirely get it either which is why i said i have to read more about it. But the msm are doing their own anti trump spin so they're making the freedom caucus guys out to be the "good guys"....simply because they opposed trump. Ignoring the fact that if i read right, trump care was not enough of a repeal of the ACA for them. So i guess they hate obamacare so much that they'd rather see it stay if it wont be entirely to the letter repealed? As i said i dont get it. It smells of DC shenanigans. Like theres something else unrelated to healthcare that they want from trump and this is a way of possibly strongarming him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 this is on Paul Ryan, no friend of conservatives. He didn't include the desires of the conservatives in the bill, just like the dems didn't let any reps have input. Never liked Paul Ryan - it was a mistake to let the two faced nimrod become speaker. The upside is, dissension in the rep ranks is a healthy thing - the cultist loyalism in the dems is sick stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Ditto. U said i dont know the difference between what u say and what others say. So how bout u just say nothing? Sound good? I How 'bout you suck my dick? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 How 'bout you suck my dick? WSS or how bout i not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 I dont entirely get it either which is why i said i have to read more about it. But the msm are doing their own anti trump spin so they're making the freedom caucus guys out to be the "good guys"....simply because they opposed trump. Ignoring the fact that if i read right, trump care was not enough of a repeal of the ACA for them. So i guess they hate obamacare so much that they'd rather see it stay if it wont be entirely to the letter repealed? As i said i dont get it. It smells of DC shenanigans. Like theres something else unrelated to healthcare that they want from trump and this is a way of possibly strongarming him? Some extremists keep their word. They said repeal only and the crazies beat their drums of support, at least they are true to their promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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