nickers Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 On 3/26/2018 at 9:55 PM, calfoxwc said: JAF - speaking of the Beatles, one of my favorite things to do, was to play the rubber soul album on a record player - because you could turn it to 78 rpm, and they sounded just like the three chipmunks. Rubber Soul is a great album , dude... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 I'd much rather talk about music rather than politics but I fear even those discussions would lead to immense divides 😔 We are polarized beyond repair thanks to our MSM.. Pravda and Tass would be so proud.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, nickers said: Rubber Soul is a great album , dude... yes, it is - I listened to it so many times, I just thought to turn it to 78 rpm because it was so freaking funny. lol. I mean, the 3 Chipmunks singing Beatles songs ! LOL Of course, back then, my best friend and fishing buddy and I played our guitars and did a fair job of "Sounds of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkel. We also had funny times we changed the words to another favorite - "Eve of Destruction". One time we were playing for friends, and we added a great line about fishing and catching carp...etc. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 "Eve of Destruction" was a great song. Here Barry McGwire sings in again, with a few changes in lyrics - 1965 back then, then he and a few friends play it live, in 2012. and yeah, it's truer today. I could do the harmonica part, too. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 8 hours ago, calfoxwc said: "Eve of Destruction" was a great song. Here Barry McGwire sings in again, with a few changes in lyrics - 1965 back then, then he and a few friends play it live, in 2012. and yeah, it's truer today. I could do the harmonica part, too. LOL Cal that song came out the year I was born.. And sadly... That song still holds up and mirrors what is actually going on today... It almost breaks my heart just to listen to it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted March 6 Author Report Share Posted March 6 On 3/2/2024 at 9:20 PM, Axe said: This where he popped up on my radar.. Dang.. 3 yrs ago Man, I thought that was John Locke from Lost at first 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted March 27 Author Report Share Posted March 27 Another nice analyst of Music. Concentrating on the Drummer / Bassist here. Yep, one of the best Drummers out there (Neil Peart / Phil Collins) - two of the best in their hay days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 7 hours ago, JAFBF said: Another nice analyst of Music. Concentrating on the Drummer / Bassist here. Yep, one of the best Drrummers out there (Neil Peart / Phil Collins) - two of the best in their hay days. The two best drummers alive right now are Vinnie Calaiuta and Virgil Donati..Bar none! Both are in their 60's and have been industry session drummers for decades. They both have unworldly abilities... They are on a level light years ahead of everyone else.. I would put Dave Weckl in that camp too.. His tonality on Drums is phenomenal.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 Steve Gadds drumming on Steely Dans Aja 💯 prior to that was with chick correa and herbie hancock? Chester Thompson or Terry Bozzio with Frank Zappa / Mothers Vinnie Calaiuta also drummed with Zappa later all play jazz fusion style Gadd and Dave Weckl have ties as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, FairHooker11 said: Steve Gadds drumming on Steely Dans Aja 💯 prior to that was with chick correa and herbie hancock? Chester Thompson or Terry Bozzio with Frank Zappa / Mothers Vinnie Calaiuta also drummed with Zappa later all play jazz fusion style Gadd and Dave Weckl have ties as well Steve Gadd probably has the best pure clock of any drummer I ever heard next to Charlie Watt of the stones and Jeff Porcaro of Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 Despite his extreme arrogance and how vile this guy really was, Buddy Rich was the GOAT. Then you can talk about everyone else. Here is a voice recording of Rich chewing out his band on a bus after a gig.. Not knowing he was being recorded. Calling them motherfuckers and assholes...what a dick he was. https://youtu.be/t8-uoTD4fMQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, FY56 said: Despite his extreme arrogance and how vile this guy really was, Buddy Rich was the GOAT. Then you can talk about everyone else. Here is a voice recording of Rich chewing out his band on a bus after a gig.. Not knowing he was being recorded. Calling them motherfuckers and assholes...what a dick he was. https://youtu.be/t8-uoTD4fMQ Buddy Rich was the GOAT until Virgil Donati came along... Trust me when I tell you.. Virgil is on a entirely different planet than Rich was on... Rich was stuck in one Genre(Jazz)... Donati does it all... Jazz, Fusion,Metal,Prog Rock you name it... Donati does things with odd time signatures that Rich couldn't master. Not saying he couldn't..He only cared about Jazz and was stuck in his own bubble. when it comes to Calaiuta and Donati.. You can't keep up with them in terms of were the 1 begins.. Or it ends.. I've played Drums and Percussion my entire life besides Guitar (My main) , Bass and Piano/Keyboards.. And some Mandolin on occasion.. I was born with a metronome in my body... Had Rich dropped the attitude and explored more then yeah.. But Rich , no doubt was the greatest in his era.. Donati and Calaiuta were influenced by him.. No doubt about it.. If you want to go on pure technique.. Mike Mangini probably blows them all away... But when it comes to all around feel, tonality and technique... Donati is the KING! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted March 29 Author Report Share Posted March 29 On 3/27/2024 at 3:13 PM, nickers said: Buddy Rich was the GOAT until Virgil Donati came along... Trust me when I tell you.. Virgil is on a entirely different planet than Rich was on... Rich was stuck in one Genre(Jazz)... Donati does it all... Jazz, Fusion,Metal,Prog Rock you name it... Donati does things with odd time signatures that Rich couldn't master. Not saying he couldn't..He only cared about Jazz and was stuck in his own bubble. when it comes to Calaiuta and Donati.. You can't keep up with them in terms of were the 1 begins.. Or it ends.. I've played Drums and Percussion my entire life besides Guitar (My main) , Bass and Piano/Keyboards.. And some Mandolin on occasion.. I was born with a metronome in my body... Had Rich dropped the attitude and explored more then yeah.. But Rich , no doubt was the greatest in his era.. Donati and Calaiuta were influenced by him.. No doubt about it.. If you want to go on pure technique.. Mike Mangini probably blows them all away... But when it comes to all around feel, tonality and technique... Donati is the KING! Yep, damn good, but I'm not as familiar with him as I am others. Not a knock, just unfamiliarity. Neil Peart, as a Dr. of percussion always wowed me, so high regards. Phil Collins had his own bits, and in Concert was pretty incredible - again, just personal exposure. No knocks, just my exposure. I'm more of a "Techie" type guy, though as stated, I really appreciate good Music. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted June 7 Author Report Share Posted June 7 Any Chess Players ? Vs Computers, we long ago lost that Crown. I present to you Stockfish: ELO = 3662 Magnus Carlsen (current Champion for the past several years) = 2859 That's a pretty drastic difference. I note this one, that Stockfish is free, the base Engine can be downloaded freely from their site, and it operates with several different Interfaces/UI's to basically handicap the program as you progress in your skill levels. That aside, there was recently a game between Stockfish and it's top competitor (Dragon ?) which was quite enlightening. In this game, Stockfish actually discovered a new attack. It was something I doubt a Human player would have ever discovered (look ahead planning). In summary, the opponent Castled to the King side, after which Stockfish released an attack the likes of which I've never seen before. Stockfish sacrificed several major pieces (something you're not likely to see in most games), but the "sacrifices" were of such strategic value it was unimaginable. Note, the opponent was ~3500+/3600+ ELO itself vs Stockfish 3662+. Needless to say, Stockfish mated the opponent, as highly rated as it was, in short order. This attack, at such an early stage of the game, and so concentrated is something I've never seen before, or something I would have ever expected to see. For those interested in this match you can watch it here : Video Mind you, Stockfish has been Champion for years is continually getting updated. I post this as an item of interest/training for those that are interested in learning/improving their Chess play. Some of the interfaces I mentioned above (search for them) enable certain handicapping (time allowed for Stockfish to search), which over time, could help in improving your game. You know if you go against the absolute top player (Stockfish unlimited) you're going to get wiped in a handful of moves. With these tunable interfaces, you can limit the search time your opponent (Stockfish or other) has, which will essential drop the ELO of the opponent, giving you a better chance to learn and overcome challenges presented. Deep Blue, back in 1995 was the first to truly challenge Human players (massive Hardware behind it). These days, the Hardware and the Software are incredibly much better than what we had (personally) ~30 years ago. Human vs Human - still many many years at least for equilibrium, if ever. Computer vs Computer - improvements still too be and are still being made. In short - Chess is not yet "solved", meaning that for the first move or so the outcome is not evident or unavoidable. Sadly, there will come a time where all games are essentially "solved" as far as Computers are concerned. This may well impact how Humans play, as insights not otherwise evident become evident in studying the games of Computer vs Computer. EDIT: Since my observation of this game there are some updates. Stockfish ELO = 4027 Torch (not Dragon) ELO = 4002 Quite a bit of improvement in both contenders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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