Canton Mike Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 When Baker came in, it was like someone flipped a light switch on. BOTH his Teammates & the Fans came alive, reaching levels of excitement & performance I haven't seen in many years. The Baker era is HERE!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: So what are the odds coach Jackson announces that it's just not right that a player lose his job because of an injury? Slim and none... and slim just left town... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 During which play was Tyrod get concussed? I didn’t see it unless it was quite a few series earlier in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Slim and none... and slim just left town... Agreed. Mayfield is his ticket to retaining employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: So what are the odds coach Jackson announces that it's just not right that a player lose his job because of an injury? WSS Not a chance in hell. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, jcam222 said: During which play was Tyrod get concussed? I didn’t see it unless it was quite a few series earlier in the game. Just mused on that in a new thread. He took two "shots" to the helmet: an early forearm from a Jet DB as he slid and front of helmet "bumped" the ground at end of the sack he took on his last play. Neither looked to me to be concussive and the forearm looked the worse of the two. Cumulative maybe? Or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/sports/nfl/browns/reports-cleveland-browns-to-name-baker-mayfield-starting-qb-monday/95-597405662 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 I hope it is the last time we have a thread like this for 12 to 18 years. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Can you imagine if Hue actually came out on Monday and said Tyrod will continue as our starter? Even Hue, the quarterback mumbler couldn't do that. ---------------------- Just after the game Josh McCown met Baker on the field and had some words for him. I'd love to know what Josh said to him. He's a real pro that Josh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Sales equals dollars. Haslam ain't that dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 21 hours ago, Zombo said: I hope it is the last time we have a thread like this for 12 to 18 years. Zombo He’s number 30 since ‘99. So yeah that would be nice. THIRTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 It's official guys... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000966163/article/browns-name-baker-mayfield-starter-at-quarterback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzz2 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Looking forward to it, might be some ups and downs, hopefully a hell of a lot more UPS then downs! Cautiously excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Is this the savior for whom Cleveland has clamored for so long? A reporter couldn't even finish the question about it before Mayfield dismissed the thought of the past Monday. "It's 2018," Mayfield said. "I don't really care." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 There really was no doubt... https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/baker_mayfield_named_browns_st.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 why was someone earlier in this thread surprised by bakers arm? that wasnt the qyestion about him coming out of college. In fact i read his arm was close to Allens, its just his size that had people worried. Im hoping haley takes the training wheels off that arm when defenses put 9 guys in the box like the jets did. Let the kid show the NFL he can hit calloway in stride deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Comeonman Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Clevfan4life said: why was someone earlier in this thread surprised by bakers arm? that wasnt the qyestion about him coming out of college. In fact i read his arm was close to Allens, its just his size that had people worried. Im hoping haley takes the training wheels off that arm when defenses put 9 guys in the box like the jets did. Let the kid show the NFL he can hit calloway in stride deep Hopefully next time he doesn’t let it go through his arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 10:18 AM, Tour2ma said: Just mused on that in a new thread. He took two "shots" to the helmet: an early forearm from a Jet DB as he slid and front of helmet "bumped" the ground at end of the sack he took on his last play. Neither looked to me to be concussive and the forearm looked the worse of the two. Cumulative maybe? Or... He honestly looked like a guy who knew his fate and accepted it. All the stuff that made TT good went down the tube here in Cleveland (accuracy, low turnovers/sacks, etc). My best guess is having the #1 pick breathing down your neck was pressure the guy wasn't used to and it got to him. I think after that last hit though he realized he might as well slide into the reality. TT is a strong back-up, and I'm still very glad he's on the roster. I think if needed and without the pressure he could come in and be the Tyrod that led Buffalo. Hopefully TT can appreciate being a back-up because I'd be happy with him as #2 compared to about any other team in the NFL. He's about to be 30 after this year so I strongly doubt someone will bring the guy in for a starting competition. I suppose we shall see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 9:52 AM, jcam222 said: During which play was Tyrod get concussed? It was his final play and (was it) the play before? Two plays. It was questioned if TyRod took a dive. - The guy came to work before the janitors...and stayed late. He wants to play. He HAD to know that once Baker entered the game, the possibility existed that he would never come out. - And so now, it is written in stone. There's been chatter of us trading Tyrod to SanFran. I cannot picture SF looking in Tyrod's direction at all....unless they figure they're gonna pack it in, get a high draft pick, and wait for Jimmy next year. This is why they're trying SOOoo hard to protect the QB's. SanFran is pretty much Phucked now. And look what Baker did for our team. If that's anything close to Baker's actual level of play then, look what would happen to us if he got hurt. We'd be the 0-15-1 looking Browns under Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 whatever happened to tyrod happened at least 5 mins before he came out. And i know that cause the people sitting behong the brownscbench all saw baker looking at his arm plays after every play tyrod stayed in for so he knew exactly where they were on the progression. U saw the immediate change in his demeanor. I wish there was video of it, u all would be in awe. The broadcast didnt catch on for a couple minutes that baker might be gearing up to come in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, Orion said: It was his final play and (was it) the play before? Two plays. It was questioned if TyRod took a dive. - The guy came to work before the janitors...and stayed late. He wants to play. He HAD to know that once Baker entered the game, the possibility existed that he would never come out. - And so now, it is written in stone. There's been chatter of us trading Tyrod to SanFran. I cannot picture SF looking in Tyrod's direction at all....unless they figure they're gonna pack it in, get a high draft pick, and wait for Jimmy next year. This is why they're trying SOOoo hard to protect the QB's. SanFran is pretty much Phucked now. And look what Baker did for our team. If that's anything close to Baker's actual level of play then, look what would happen to us if he got hurt. We'd be the 0-15-1 looking Browns under Tyrod. Yes, I wouldn't question his heart or desire for a second. Honestly it would be easier if he were lazy or a douche. He has been ALL about the Browns from the second he got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: He honestly looked like a guy who knew his fate and accepted it. All the stuff that made TT good went down the tube here in Cleveland (accuracy, low turnovers/sacks, etc). My best guess is having the #1 pick breathing down your neck was pressure the guy wasn't used to and it got to him. I think after that last hit though he realized he might as well slide into the reality. TT is a strong back-up, and I'm still very glad he's on the roster. I think if needed and without the pressure he could come in and be the Tyrod that led Buffalo. Hopefully TT can appreciate being a back-up because I'd be happy with him as #2 compared to about any other team in the NFL. He's about to be 30 after this year so I strongly doubt someone will bring the guy in for a starting competition. I suppose we shall see though. TT is no dummy. I agree with your take that he saw Baker's abilities & growth & folded under the pressure. We'll see what happens, but with injuries, Dorsey may well get some calls regarding TT's availability. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Baker & Tyrod differences: Baker will see the covered receiver and decide if and where he could put the ball so that his receiver could adjust to it and make the catch. - Tyrod would not try that. Baker will leave the pocket and keep looking downfield expecting a receiver to dart to an open spot for the pass. Tyrod will leave the pocket and look for a lane to run in. --------------------- On Tyrod's long pass attempt to Callaway against the Jets, he underthrew the ball...and he raised his hands a bit to show that he thought Callaway should have made an attempt to go for the ball instead of awaiting it to fall in his breadbasket. And he was right. I mean, Baker's gonna underthrow passes now and then, ya think? Callaway's a rookie, but he still had to know that there was a defender running with him...and he saw that the ball was underthrown....... Like Haley yelled at Coleman in TC, "Ya gotta go fight for that ball". - Perhaps Callaway learned somethin' there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 6 hours ago, jrb12711 said: He honestly looked like a guy who knew his fate and accepted it. All the stuff that made TT good went down the tube here in Cleveland (accuracy, low turnovers/sacks, etc). My best guess is having the #1 pick breathing down your neck was pressure the guy wasn't used to and it got to him. I think after that last hit though he realized he might as well slide into the reality. TT is a strong back-up, and I'm still very glad he's on the roster. I think if needed and without the pressure he could come in and be the Tyrod that led Buffalo. Hopefully TT can appreciate being a back-up because I'd be happy with him as #2 compared to about any other team in the NFL. He's about to be 30 after this year so I strongly doubt someone will bring the guy in for a starting competition. I suppose we shall see though. Nah, Tyrod was trying- but not doing very well at all. 6 hours ago, Orion said: It was his final play and (was it) the play before? Two plays. It was questioned if TyRod took a dive. - The guy came to work before the janitors...and stayed late. He wants to play. He HAD to know that once Baker entered the game, the possibility existed that he would never come out. - And so now, it is written in stone. There's been chatter of us trading Tyrod to SanFran. I cannot picture SF looking in Tyrod's direction at all....unless they figure they're gonna pack it in, get a high draft pick, and wait for Jimmy next year. This is why they're trying SOOoo hard to protect the QB's. SanFran is pretty much Phucked now. And look what Baker did for our team. If that's anything close to Baker's actual level of play then, look what would happen to us if he got hurt. We'd be the 0-15-1 looking Browns under Tyrod. They've taken "protecting the QB" to an absurd level. I still don't think the rules guys have any clue how a defensive player going full bore can avoid a penalty if he so much as touches a QB. Jimmy- and Wentz before him got sidelined on hits that I really thought were minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 6 hours ago, hoorta said: Nah, Tyrod was trying- but not doing very well at all. They've taken "protecting the QB" to an absurd level. I still don't think the rules guys have any clue how a defensive player going full bore can avoid a penalty if he so much as touches a QB. Jimmy- and Wentz before him got sidelined on hits that I really thought were minor. Garrapolo blew out his knee before he was even hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Orion said: Baker & Tyrod differences: Baker will see the covered receiver and decide if and where he could put the ball so that his receiver could adjust to it and make the catch. - Tyrod would not try that. Baker will leave the pocket and keep looking downfield expecting a receiver to dart to an open spot for the pass. Tyrod will leave the pocket and look for a lane to run in. --------------------- On Tyrod's long pass attempt to Callaway against the Jets, he underthrew the ball...and he raised his hands a bit to show that he thought Callaway should have made an attempt to go for the ball instead of awaiting it to fall in his breadbasket. And he was right. I mean, Baker's gonna underthrow passes now and then, ya think? Callaway's a rookie, but he still had to know that there was a defender running with him...and he saw that the ball was underthrown....... Like Haley yelled at Coleman in TC, "Ya gotta go fight for that ball". - Perhaps Callaway learned somethin' there. Not what I saw , the long ball to Callaway was grossly underthrown he had defender beat by 5 yards at full speed T Rod just doesn’t have the arm to make that play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 enough tape for Hue & me? guys are open..read pre-snap than grip it & rip it..Ball to Callaway was so badly thrown,ref would not give up a gift flag..(cuz were the browns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 VERY tough not to get totally excited, lol. One thing I hope Baker learns from last week is better ball security. His fumble could've cost us the game, and there was another play where he didn't have the rock secured and I'm sure the coaches will be providing some inspirational advice during film, lol. Go Baker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, 7moses7 said: Not what I saw , the long ball to Callaway was grossly underthrown Yup, it was underthrown, I said that. But Baker will underthrow balls too...because he's human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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