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Why Trump's Generals Have Abandoned Ship


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53 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

 

Guest opinion of Retired Admiral James Stavridis, Former 16th Supreme Allied Commander of Nato

http://time.com/5492636/donald-trump-generals/

Hold up Oldtimer is googling "Admiral James Stavridis bad things". He may need to wait for his high speed blogger to put up garbage to report here.

Why does Cheetos Jesus not like general...

Yet by and large, I’ve found them quite effective as leaders, organizers, planners and strategists–the type one would expect from those who have proved their mettle in the long hierarchical climb up the ranks of the modern armed forces. Additionally, the vast majority are driven by integrity and the values of courage, honor, commitment–while having been tested in life-and-death situations.

They are driven by things he completely lacks. 

 

 

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Obama had similar if not worse problems with the military:

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

 

Obama versus the Generals

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-099379

 

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18 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said:

Obama had similar if not worse problems with the military:

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

 

Obama versus the Generals

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-099379

 

You know, drawing comparisons between Trump and Obama isn't a good look. The vast majority of the posters on here loathed Obama.

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2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

 

Guest opinion of Retired Admiral James Stavridis, Former 16th Supreme Allied Commander of Nato

http://time.com/5492636/donald-trump-generals/

sure, a FRIEND of mattis and kelly is bitching publicly. He must be looking to get a demoquack job in the future.

"yawn".

I knew a few Lt. Colonels in the AF, that were ignorant, complete asswholes. Met one general  - who was very excellent.

Just because a general is a general, doesn't mean he has all the cred in the world -especially politics. After all, mattis was fired by TexAg's ObaMao, too.

 

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1 minute ago, LogicIsForSquares said:

You know, drawing comparisons between Trump and Obama isn't a good look. The vast majority of the posters on here loathed Obama.

it isn't much of a look - posters hated obamao for deliberately being a liar to get elected, then broke nearly all ? of his "promises".

Pres Trump is KEEPING most all his promises.

So there ya go.

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12 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

it isn't much of a look - posters hated obamao for deliberately being a liar to get elected, then broke nearly all ? of his "promises".

Pres Trump is KEEPING most all his promises.

So there ya go.

That had nothing to do with the point OBF was making. Generals were bailing on Trump and OBF's argument was "well Obama did as well". Coincidentally, both Obama and Trump were narcissists who believed they knew it all and are facing the same issues in terms of the military.

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47 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said:

Obama had similar if not worse problems with the military:

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

 

Obama versus the Generals

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/obama-vs-the-generals-099379

 

You guys have these links in your bookmarks. No, a bunch of ex-generals did not write articles about Obama's complete lack of morals, integrity, intelligence, or honor. That conspiracy theories bullshit. The military was top heavy, too many generals not enough troops. 

edit - Also the zero tolerance policy was responsible for many "early" retirements. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/military-brass-behaving-badly-files-detail-a-spate-of-misconduct-dogging-armed-forces/2014/01/26/4d06c770-843d-11e3-bbe5-6a2a3141e3a9_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.dfe820af0d97

Your garbage investor.com link, of course list some of the generals that were release, but didn't bother to state why or they "guess" why they were let go. I don't understand people who willingly lets these garbage sites misled you.. 

 

 

Other removals include the sacking of two nuclear commanders in a single week — Maj. Gen. Michael Carey, head of the 20th Air Force, responsible for the three wings that maintain control of the 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles and Tim Giardina, the No. 2 officer at U.S. Strategic Command. - Old's garbage link

Major General Michael Carey — As commander of the US land-based nuclear missile program, Carey was responsible for three units of ICBMs. He was relieved in October 2013 for his conduct on a July trip to Moscow, where he went on what news reports called a "drunken bender," fraternized with local women and made inappropriate comments disparaging the Russian military. As a result, he was reassigned and made Special Assistant to the Commander of Air Force Space Command in Colorado. 

Vice Admiral Tim Giardina — Giardina served as chief of staff of the US Pacific Fleet and was the number 2 officer of US Strategic Command (StratCom) until being relieved of duty in September 2013, following an investigation into his use of fake casino chips in a poker game. This is a class D felony in Iowa, where StratCom is located. He was already due to leave StratCom, and his bio currently lists him as "assigned to the staff of the vice chief of naval operations."

Rear Adm. Chuck Gaouette, commander of the John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group, was relieved in October 2012 for disobeying orders when he sent his group on Sept. 11 to "assist and provide intelligence for" military forces ordered into action by Gen. Ham. - Old's garbage link

Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette — Gaouette held the position of commanding officer of Carrier Strike Group Three until a reprimand from the US Navy led to his removal. He was found to have used profanity in public and made several racially insensitive remarks. The origin of the complaint might have come from the captain of the aircraft carrier assigned to the Strike Group, who alleged Gaouette had humiliated him in public. 

General Carter F. Ham — The commander of US Command Africa, Ham retired in the wake of the September 2011 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Though the attack itself generated enormous controversy and blame on the Obama administration, Ham himself was never reprimanded and served the entirety of his two-year posting in Africa, retiring as scheduled at age 62, after a 40 year career. 

 

 

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cccjwh mz the pussy cherry pickie up above.

for the "Rest of the Story"...

Barack Obama

Dennis Blair, Director of National Intelligence

The former Admiral didn’t adapt well to the politics of civilian leadership. Engaging in losing turf wars with White House veterans, and vocally opposed to the Administration’s reliance on drone strikes, Blair quickly submitted his resignation when it was clear he would be fired.

Stanley McChrystal, Commander of International Security Assistance Force

Obama fired McChrystal after he and his subordinates were openly disdainful of their Washington leadership in a Rolling Stone feature story.

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20 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

cccjwh mz the pussy the pussy the pussy the pussy the pussy cherry pickie up above.

for the "Rest of the Story"...

Barack Obama

Dennis Blair, Director of National Intelligence

The former Admiral didn’t adapt well to the politics of civilian leadership. Engaging in losing turf wars with White House veterans, and vocally opposed to the Administration’s reliance on drone strikes, Blair quickly submitted his resignation when it was clear he would be fired.

Stanley McChrystal, Commander of International Security Assistance Force

Obama fired McChrystal after he and his subordinates were openly disdainful of their Washington leadership in a Rolling Stone feature story.

Sorry baby cow, but I was in Afghanistan in when both Petraeus and McChrystal were removed. He knew he fucked up.

McChrystal admitted during his round of phone calls to top Obama administration officials that he had "compromised the mission," 

Oh in case you missed it. 

"I think it's important for me to work for people who I think are basically honest, who tell the truth as best they know it," McChrystal said. 

“You think he’s a liar?” Raddatz asked. 

"I don't think he tells the truth," McChrystal replied.

"Is Trump immoral, in your view?" Raddatz then asked. 

"I think he is," McChrystal said. 

McChrystal said he "can't tell any supporter of one politician or another that they are wrong." But he asked Americans to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they are willing to ignore the "unacceptable" things Trump does "just because they accomplish certain other things that we might like." 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/30/stanley-mcchrystal-criticizes-trump/2446181002/

 

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On 1/4/2019 at 9:15 AM, DieHardBrownsFan said:

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Yes indeed, Donald was a liberal DEM back then, but he never understood the division of powers as Ronnie attempted multiple times to explain it to him. He was just way too DIM.🙈

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Campaign finance: "I think nobody knows more about campaign finance than I do, because I'm the biggest contributor." (1999.)

TV ratings: "I know more about people who get ratings than anyone." (October 2012.)

ISIS: "I know more about ISIS than the generals do." (November 2015.)

Social media: "I understand social media. I understand the power of Twitter. I understand the power of Facebook maybe better than almost anybody, based on my results, right?" (November 2015.)

Courts: "I know more about courts than any human being on Earth." (November 2015.)

Lawsuits: "Who knows more about lawsuits than I do? I'm the king." (January 2016.)

Politicians: "I understand politicians better than anybody." 
The visa system: "[N]obody knows the system better than me. I know the H1B. I know the H2B. ... Nobody else on this dais knows how to change it like I do, believe me." (March 2016.)

Trade: "Nobody knows more about trade than me." (March 2016.)

The U.S. government system: "[N]obody knows the system better than I do." (April 2016.)

Renewable energy: "I know more about renewables than any human being on Earth." (April 2016.)

Taxes: "I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world." (May 2016.)

Debt: "I’m the king of debt. I’m great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me." (June 2016.)

Money: "I understand money better than anybody." (June 2016.)

Infrastructure: "Look, as a builder, nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump." (July 2016.)

Sen. Cory Booker: "I know more about Cory than he knows about himself." (July 2016.)

Borders: Trump said in 2016 that Sheriff Joe Arpaio said he was endorsing him for president because "you know more about this stuff than anybody." 
Democrats: "I think I know more about the other side than almost anybody." (November 2016.)

Construction: "[N]obody knows more about construction than I do." (May 2018.)

The economy: "I think I know about it better than [the Federal Reserve]." (October 2018.)

Technology: "Technology — nobody knows more about technology than me." (December 2018.)

Drones: "I know more about drones than anybody. I know about every form of safety that you can have." (January 2019.)

Drone technology: "Having a drone fly overhead — and I think nobody knows much more about technology, this type of technology certainly, than I do." (January 2019.)

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2 hours ago, cccjwh said:

Campaign finance: "I think nobody knows more about campaign finance than I do, because I'm the biggest contributor." (1999.)

TV ratings: "I know more about people who get ratings than anyone." (October 2012.)

ISIS: "I know more about ISIS than the generals do." (November 2015.)

Social media: "I understand social media. I understand the power of Twitter. I understand the power of Facebook maybe better than almost anybody, based on my results, right?" (November 2015.)

Courts: "I know more about courts than any human being on Earth." (November 2015.)

Lawsuits: "Who knows more about lawsuits than I do? I'm the king." (January 2016.)

Politicians: "I understand politicians better than anybody." 
The visa system: "[N]obody knows the system better than me. I know the H1B. I know the H2B. ... Nobody else on this dais knows how to change it like I do, believe me." (March 2016.)

Trade: "Nobody knows more about trade than me." (March 2016.)

The U.S. government system: "[N]obody knows the system better than I do." (April 2016.)

Renewable energy: "I know more about renewables than any human being on Earth." (April 2016.)

Taxes: "I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world." (May 2016.)

Debt: "I’m the king of debt. I’m great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me." (June 2016.)

Money: "I understand money better than anybody." (June 2016.)

Infrastructure: "Look, as a builder, nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump." (July 2016.)

Sen. Cory Booker: "I know more about Cory than he knows about himself." (July 2016.)

Borders: Trump said in 2016 that Sheriff Joe Arpaio said he was endorsing him for president because "you know more about this stuff than anybody." 
Democrats: "I think I know more about the other side than almost anybody." (November 2016.)

Construction: "[N]obody knows more about construction than I do." (May 2018.)

The economy: "I think I know about it better than [the Federal Reserve]." (October 2018.)

Technology: "Technology — nobody knows more about technology than me." (December 2018.)

Drones: "I know more about drones than anybody. I know about every form of safety that you can have." (January 2019.)

Drone technology: "Having a drone fly overhead — and I think nobody knows much more about technology, this type of technology certainly, than I do." (January 2019.)

And yet when I call him a Narcissistic Personality Disorder, some here think I am abusing my educational and vocational background. LOL!

You honor please read the quotes above. Rest my case.🤩

Now let's get a bunch of his lies quoted so I can point to those for the Pathological Liar.👺

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trouble is, Texhag and cccjwh mz the pussy the pussy, you won't man up and talk about your obaMao Commie lies.

AT least Trump, who is far from perfect, is outstanding in KEEPING HIS PROMISES.

Meanwhile, your alleged expertise lets you be completely freaking ignorant about lies and failures and

promises broken.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/

All False statements involving Barack Obama

False

From 'I'm not a king' to 'obliged to do everything I can'

False

"Between Two Ferns" was a hit, but this factoid is wrong

False

Don't hold your breath for those SBA loans, Mr. Trump

False

'Fast and Furious' born in 2009

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and that is only PAGE ONE OF FOUR.

but gosh, Texhag and cccjwh mz the pussy  won't admit it, won't talk about it,

Uranium One is verboten, Benghazi is not to be admitted or discussed...

well, let's just show how TexHag's outrage is phoney as a chinese plastic plug nickel

All False statements involving Barack Obama

False

Doubling is a goal -- the U.S. is only a third of the way there

False

Revenue would equal outlays, but he ignores growing interest on the debt

False

We've tracked a few increases

False

We found at least four

False

Insurer's decision was reversed and man lived three more years

False

Covering preventive care for everyone is a net cost

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Yeah, TexHag and cccjwh mz the pussy - Reality bites you in the ass and you ignore it for..ever?

but lose the election, and you won't ever STFU and stop making fools of yourself.

What the heck ,we're on a roll here, time for page three:

All False statements involving Barack Obama

False

Profits, yes, but not record profits

False

Check your facts, Mr. President. Oil imports are down

False

The president maligns middle-schoolers unfairly

False

Obama ad wrong about McCain abortion charge

False

Unused acres aren't necessarily being ignored

False

Obama ad distorts McCain's stem cell position

False

Obama contradicts previously stated pin philosophy

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Let's see....I wonder if TExHag and cccjwh mz the pussy will admit ANYTHING about the reality of obaMao commie's EIGHT YEARS.

probably not.

Let's go ahead and list page four from the same link:

All False statements involving Barack Obama

False

He needs a fill-up on statistics

False

By itself, black voter increase does not flip Mississippi — or the South

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Spamming won't make Trump less stupid. 

If you want to post politifact. There you go baby cow.

Obama:

57% True or Mostly True

13% False or Pants of Fire False(1% Pants on Fire)

Trump:

15% True or Mostly True 

48% False or Pants of Fire False

Nobody knows more about lying to people than Cheetos Jesus, with 15% of the shit he says is not just false. It's Pants of Fire False. Almost 70% if everything he says is Mostly False or more. 

 

                                    Trump

 

Obama

 

 

 

 

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well, cccjwh mz the pussy -

you and Texhag never said one word about obaMao commies lies.

My guess is,

you're black, and ObaMao Commie was your hero.

or,

you're a leftwing entitlement welfare wonk that doesn't have a clue.

or,

both.

I imagine racism on your parts explains ignoring the wrong that obamao said and did for EIGHT YEARS, and

the hate toward Pres Trump, even though HE IS KEEPING HIS PROMISES>

Obamao promisese percentage? zero.

Pres Trump promises kept percentage? about 95% and 5 % deliberately opposed by the deep state and friendly fed leftist judges.

and Pres Trump is demanding to keep his promise on building the wall and strengthening out border security.

   You both can go on sucking buttock's, mooochelle's and higgardly's toes.

It's sickening to anybody else who has any sense at all.

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32 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

well, cccjwh mz the pussy the pussy the pussy -

you and Texhag never said one word about obaMao commies lies.

My guess is,

you're black, and ObaMao Commie was your hero.

or,

you're a leftwing entitlement welfare wonk that doesn't have a clue.

or,

both.

I imagine racism on your parts explains ignoring the wrong that obamao said and did for EIGHT YEARS, and

the hate toward Pres Trump, even though HE IS KEEPING HIS PROMISES>

Obamao promisese percentage? zero.

Pres Trump promises kept percentage? about 95% and 5 % deliberately opposed by the deep state and friendly fed leftist judges.

and Pres Trump is demanding to keep his promise on building the wall and strengthening out border security.

   You both can go on sucking buttock's, mooochelle's and higgardly's toes.

It's sickening to anybody else who has any sense at all.

I'm sorry I don't read baby cow, can someone translate this? Baby cow has Trump nuts on his chin and I guess he having problems typing.

 

 

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10 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

great. you don't read, you can't figure out what gender you are, and you think you're a "know it all".

worthless trolling.

It's OK baby cow. I made you look stupid for posting from Politifact. It isn't a big deal, you make yourself look stupid pretty every time you post. I'm going to put you on ignore now, I'm tired of your spamming and making you look stupid isn't a challenge. 

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odd, politifact is one of your libs' favorite sites when it suits your purpose, asswhole. "STUPID is when you can't figure out what gender you are, cccjwh mz the pussy the pussy. We'll all just wait til you use politifact later on, when it suits your warped emotional needs.

Go stick a cork in it - you are more narcissistic than you claim Pres Trump is. You must be on welfare because you "feel" entitled to not have to take care of yourself....typical cccjwh/ mz the pussy the pussy.

seems you are only here to screw around with other folks' threads that you "feel" are different from yours, and you are way, way too ignorant to take part in any civil discussion on any subject.

 

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