Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2019/03/03/7-signs-trump-will-landslide-2020-n2542498?utm_content=buffer1e4fb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer Without getting insulting can any of you guys think of any reasons the oddsmakers might tilt the scales one way or the other? I realize it's way too early even though I think the Browns are going to the Superbowl. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 The major factor yet to come is the effect of all the investigations just now getting underway. They have just under two years to reveal so much about the Trump Empire. To ignore all that in a premature prediction is foolish IMO. Wheels of Justice are very slow. They will grind away at the facade to reveal the moral bankruptcy that has been there for decades now. The constant lying is only the tip of the iceberg. Mueller has smartly farmed out much of it to state courts that Trump can't use his pardon powers to affect. And Democratic control of subpoena power in multiple committees will look very different from the past two years of Republican control that would not allow many witnesses to testify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: The major factor yet to come is the effect of all the investigations just now getting underway. They have just under two years to reveal so much about the Trump Empire. To ignore all that in a premature prediction is foolish IMO. Wheels of Justice are very slow. They will grind away at the facade to reveal the moral bankruptcy that has been there for decades now. The constant lying is only the tip of the iceberg. Mueller has smartly farmed out much of it to state courts that Trump can't use his pardon powers to affect. And Democratic control of subpoena power in multiple committees will look very different from the past two years of Republican control that would not allow many witnesses to testify. That certainly could be a factor but I think there has to be solid proof of something illegal that most Americans really care about, not just the base of one party or the other. That's what the Bill Clinton Whitewater investigation I think Americans across the board work fatigue by the constant pounding away by the over-reaching opposition. Remember even the Republicans were I board with a collusion investigation head looking into the effect the Russians had on the election but that seems to have fallen by the wayside. The reaction all depends on those in the middle I guess. What kind of impropriety could Mueller uncover that would shock anybody? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: What kind of impropriety could Mueller uncover that would shock anybody? WSS Maybe an empire lost and rebuilt totally on being a bought and paid for operative for oligarchs? After all the kid "with no sense" already stated how much Russian money was pouring into the Trump empire coffers. It's more likely the Southern District and NY state courts will connect all the dots, not Mueller whose hands are tied by restrictions. They don't have the same restrictions that Mueller has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Maybe an empire lost and rebuilt totally on being a bought and paid for operative for oligarchs? After all the kid "with no sense" already stated how much Russian money was pouring into the Trump empire coffers. It's more likely the Southern District and NY state courts will connect all the dots, not Mueller whose hands are tied by restrictions. They don't have the same restrictions that Mueller has. I don't know what restrictions you think Mueller is working under but none of his accusations seem to have anything to do with collusion. And I would bet that most people concerned about the southern district in New York would have to do a Google search to know what it is they should be angry about. Off the top of your head what do you think they are investigating specifically? And understand I'm not picking on you personally just try to underscore the fact that most Americans probably don't know or care. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 So just for the heck of it I did look. I saw Governor Christie on TV recently http://amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2019/03/01/chris-christie-sdny-trump What has to admit it this is pretty vague and looks more like a fishing Expedition. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 the mueller farce has shown itself to the American public to be just that - a farce. After two years, he and his democratic only, led by a corrupt prosecutor "pit bull", they have nothing. The dems opened it up on their own, to continue the farce. Fake news, belligerent innuendo, lies, class envy/racial warfare/everything inequality - it's all laid bare for all of Real America to see. Pres Trump is doing great things for America, for us - and more and more of the minority groups are seeing it - Real America is growing - and I do believe that Pres Trump/VP Pence will win by a landslide. The socialists/communists minds have pushed their fake, destructive hate to the max - and there isn't anyone, imho, who seriously believes their garbage, even though they are emotionally warped to the point of repeating the lies and hoped-for conviction of our DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT who is doing a GREAT JOB, just out of a sick spite over losing the election, losing the oh so close chance of owning America via the supreme court, the entire congress, and the executive branch. and scumbag obamao put all those deep state corrupt idealogues into power in most of the agencies he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: So just for the heck of it I did look. I saw Governor Christie on TV recently http://amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2019/03/01/chris-christie-sdny-trump What has to admit it this is pretty vague and looks more like a fishing Expedition. WSS That video did not really link to Christie too well unless it was very far into it somewhere. It is the Trump financial empire and the paper trail leading to/through it that is the real concern of the other courts and not really within the purview of Mueller's team. But anything they found that looked illegal along the way they have farmed out to all those other courts. And it has become very obvious in the past couple of weeks that this will be the focus of all the Dem led congressional investigations, starting with Deutsche Bank, the only place they could secure loans that also has deep ties to the oligarchs and other money laundering enterprises. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-11-29/deutsche-bank-s-troubles-are-donald-trump-s-troubles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Maybe an empire lost and rebuilt totally on being a bought and paid for operative for oligarchs? After all the kid "with no sense" already stated how much Russian money was pouring into the Trump empire coffers. It's more likely the Southern District and NY state courts will connect all the dots, not Mueller whose hands are tied by restrictions. They don't have the same restrictions that Mueller has. The Southern District is Federal Court. State courts have no jurisdiction over a sitting President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: The Southern District is Federal Court. State courts have no jurisdiction over a sitting President. They do over his children and son in law though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: That video did not really link to Christie too well unless it was very far into it somewhere. It is the Trump financial empire and the paper trail leading to/through it that is the real concern of the other courts and not really within the purview of Mueller's team. But anything they found that looked illegal along the way they have farmed out to all those other courts. And it has become very obvious in the past couple of weeks that this will be the focus of all the Dem led congressional investigations, starting with Deutsche Bank, the only place they could secure loans that also has deep ties to the oligarchs and other money laundering enterprises. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-11-29/deutsche-bank-s-troubles-are-donald-trump-s-troubles Didn't have as much to do with Christy but the commentary on the charges were that Trump was likely to be charged with anything that they were going after his associates. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: The major factor yet to come is the effect of all the investigations just now getting underway. They have just under two years to reveal so much about the Trump Empire. To ignore all that in a premature prediction is foolish IMO. Wheels of Justice are very slow. They will grind away at the facade to reveal the moral bankruptcy that has been there for decades now. The constant lying is only the tip of the iceberg. Mueller has smartly farmed out much of it to state courts that Trump can't use his pardon powers to affect. And Democratic control of subpoena power in multiple committees will look very different from the past two years of Republican control that would not allow many witnesses to testify. Amazing that there are some people still clinging to hopes that Trumps election was illegitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Maybe an empire lost and rebuilt totally on being a bought and paid for operative for oligarchs? After all the kid "with no sense" already stated how much Russian money was pouring into the Trump empire coffers. It's more likely the Southern District and NY state courts will connect all the dots, not Mueller whose hands are tied by restrictions. They don't have the same restrictions that Mueller has. If this is true please help me to understand the illegality here. Trump was a private citizen. When you say "Russian money", what exactly do you mean? ….a check from Putin, or Russian business dealings/interests? Even if all this "pouring in of Russian money" happened during his campaign, is it really illegal? Trump self funded over half his campaign. Sorry but if he used "Russian money that was pouring into the Trump empire coffers" obtained as a private citizen it is not illegal. The best you guys are gonna be able to do is cry "NO FAIR"! ...which should be all the low info Trump haters on your side need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Gorka said: Amazing that there are some people still clinging to hopes that Trumps election was illegitimate. I have never stated that his election was illegitimate. But I have said he is a bought and paid for compromised liar. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Gorka said: If this is true please help me to understand the illegality here. Trump was a private citizen. When you say "Russian money", what exactly do you mean? ….a check from Putin, or Russian business dealings/interests? Even if all this "pouring in of Russian money" happened during his campaign, is it really illegal? Trump self funded over half his campaign. Sorry but if he used "Russian money that was pouring into the Trump empire coffers" obtained as a private citizen it is not illegal. The best you guys are gonna be able to do is cry "NO FAIR"! ...which should be all the low info Trump haters on your side need. It's laundered money and that is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 texsag translation: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 And so it begins: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/nadler-sends-letters-trump-associates-sweeping-probe/584047/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: And so it begins: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/nadler-sends-letters-trump-associates-sweeping-probe/584047/ Tex, this means nothing. Trump will not give up anything, and shouldn't. This is nothing more than more democratic posturing for the 2020 election. Which is failng miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 texsag very unhappy. Two years of hope turned into mope. See texsag go "boo, hiss" See texsag run away from reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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