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56 minutes ago, Gorka said:

I don't see the "or else" part.

He did say "all options are on the table". Probkem is, Russia and China hsc3 bi lateral defense agreements with Venezuela. We really dont have anything to stand on. The Venezuelan opposition will ofc lick trump's balls and then he'll feel indebted to anyone who feeds his ego. But reupping in south American politics ain't a good idea. We have a horrible track record there which is why we've pretty much left them alone since the 80's. 

Some of those countries just wanna be socialist, so too bad...its their fucking country. Those troops are just there to protect Maduro, it's like 100..that's nothing. And alot ifbthem are cyberwarfare experts.

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On 3/27/2019 at 10:04 PM, Clevfan4life said:

He did say "all options are on the table". Probkem is, Russia and China hsc3 bi lateral defense agreements with Venezuela. We really dont have anything to stand on. The Venezuelan opposition will ofc lick trump's balls and then he'll feel indebted to anyone who feeds his ego. But reupping in south American politics ain't a good idea. We have a horrible track record there which is why we've pretty much left them alone since the 80's. 

Some of those countries just wanna be socialist, so too bad...its their fucking country. Those troops are just there to protect Maduro, it's like 100..that's nothing. And alot ifbthem are cyberwarfare experts.

 

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First of all the United States Administration, regardless of party, will feel indebted to any insurgents in any country the kiss our ass. Period. Just tell the Press you want to bring democracy to whatever third world shithole you live in. Pretty much the same as telling Russia and China he want to expand socialism there.

Second I don't worry very much about actual hot Warfare in any proxy war with the ruskies because they just don't have the money to support anymore satellite communist Nations. And communism itself doesn't really generate enough income to keep somebody Rolling Along.

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Here's what I think.

The russians want to use Venezuela as a counter to their taking the Baltic States back, along with

the entire Ukraine.

It's on their docket - Venezuela is a bargaining chip.

But lesson should be learned (liberals rarely learn lessons, comes with their territory)... having a gov that is so powerful

it promises to never stop giving all "the people" a free ride sounds good, until the powerful government refuses to ever leave,

starts killing anybody who gets in their way, ...and the money runs out, and they clamp down on any freedom any folks use to have,

the whole country sinks into horrific despair, and wars end up being fought.

Nazis, chinese commies, russians, Korea, East Germany.......etc etc etc. It's what they do historically. It's who those governments are.

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Even in our own U.S.A..... the leftwing radicals tried it here. The weathermen. I haven't posted this in a long while.

FBI agent infiltrates them, and they are talking in a meeting about taking over our government, and how many millions of loyal

AMERICANS would have to die.

  Not kidding. And who were two of the leaders of the weathermen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn

btw, another point. Where did ObaMao commie get his poltiical career started with support and funding?

  Bill Ayer's rich father's home.

 

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16 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

 

True

First of all the United States Administration, regardless of party, will feel indebted to any insurgents in any country the kiss our ass. Period. Just tell the Press you want to bring democracy to whatever third world shithole you live in. Pretty much the same as telling Russia and China he want to expand socialism there.

Second I don't worry very much about actual hot Warfare in any proxy war with the ruskies because they just don't have the money to support anymore satellite communist Nations. And communism itself doesn't really generate enough income to keep somebody Rolling Along.

This isn't the old USSR Steve, u do know they're sitting on some of the world's largest oil&gas reserves right,?

In fact, because of their "authoritative" style of "capitalism"....Putin is essentially the worlds wealthiest man since he controls every penny. 

Russia is now back to making some of the world's best weapons systems.....all because of their oil wealth. This is why the u.s has been so hot to disrupt the planned oil pipeline Russia wants to run to Europe. 

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5 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

This isn't the old USSR Steve, u do know they're sitting on some of the world's largest oil&gas reserves right,?

 yes and even with oil income they can't afford to support too many nonproductive satellite nations like they tried to before.

In fact, because of their "authoritative" style of "capitalism"....Putin is essentially the worlds wealthiest man since he controls every penny. 

 Queen Elizabeth and Yasser Arafat also made that list.

Russia is now back to making some of the world's best weapons systems.....all because of their oil wealth.

 oh yes the arms race will never let up. Just remember the mutually assured destruction horse has left the barn decades ago.

This is why the u.s has been so hot to disrupt the planned oil pipeline Russia wants to run to Europe. 

 and it's just business. While we fret about NATO keep in mind that nobody really cares about political institutions like communism or democracy. The Europeans who buy stuff they want from Satan if the price is right.

WSS

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21 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Hey Tex, where you been? Looked like you and CCC disappeared at the same time, thought you might have run off together.😦

WSS

I was at the Winstar Casino on a free stay up in Oklahoma. Actually came back a winner this time, plus free meals from points earned and past history of play prior stays. This time I had the sense to limit losses on any given machine and walk away from any big wins without throwing it all back in the same machine hoping for another.🤑

PS-I bought only one inexpensive meal @ Panda Express in the casino my whole time there.

BTW did you know that the odds of hitting 8 out of 10 spots in Keno are 1 in 7,384? I actually hit that and my 9 cent play got me $25 in a Keno Slot machine. I had only tried it for grins and hit on about the 4th or 5th spin. Now that is pure luck.

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