Vambo Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-soviet-union-venezuela-not-examples-failed-socialism Sanders, I-Vt., dismissed the connection between the failed socialist states and his own vision for America, during an interview on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show” Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 did you read any of the article or did you just cut and paste the title like a good little doggy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: did you read any of the article or did you just cut and paste the title like a good little doggy? Did you or you just running off at the mouth as usual? And of course. Third world shitholes aren't good examples of socialism but then again neither is Norway or any other tiny European burg with almost 0% minority population, no vast semi literate and violent welfare rolls, who also have a staggering amount oil Reserves as well as a completely different history than the United States of America. Not to mention having no military worth a shit since they depend on the rest of the world to defend them should the shit come down. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 So the Bern was interviewed on Comedy Central...how appropriate. ☕️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Sanders would be a disaster for the country because the buffoon does not understand how capitalism works. His policies would punish the successful and destroy incentives for anyone successful to build a new factory or hire new employees if they are only going to see themselves get punished for it instead of rewarded. The American dream has always been if you work hard and are willing to risk losing your own money there will be a pay off not a punishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Did you you know I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Right now in Venezuela - they’re eating their own pets, munching on zoo animals and wiping their ass with their own hand. Isn’t socialism grand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: Right now in Venezuela - they’re eating their own pets, munching on zoo animals and wiping their ass with their own hand. Isn’t socialism grand? “the examples of failed socialism that critics use are not socialist democracies, but authoritarian states led by corrupt, ruthless, and paranoid dictators.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 some socialist democracies "tried" to start in South America during the 60's....but the CIA had those leaders killed. ☕ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: some socialist democracies "tried" to start in South America during the 60's....but the CIA had those leaders killed. ☕ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: you know I did. Why would anybody think that? You didn't offer any response of worth, as a matter of fact none at all. WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: “the examples of failed socialism that critics use are not socialist democracies, but authoritarian states led by corrupt, ruthless, and paranoid dictators.” So you post the sentiments of a comedian, fine. But little do Bernie and his socialist loving simpletons know is that they already live in a successful dictatorless socialist democracy. Thu, Jun 06, 2019 For twenty-five years, the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank based in Washington, has put out The Index of Economic Freedom. Every country in the world is ranked from 0 to 100. An economy completely free of government intervention, essentially the “least socialist,” would score 100. According to the 2019 Index, the most socialist country in the world is North Korea, whose ranking of 5.9 is twenty points below the next country on the list. But the least socialist, or free-est, country in the world isn't the United States. Not even close. The U.S. is way down the list at twelfth, with a score of 77. That's the same score as The Netherlands. It's just a fraction above Denmark, and less than two points above Sweden, countries that Bernie Sanders has named as his socialist ideals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Lol...Denmark to Bernie: Denmark Tells Bernie Sanders It's Had Enough Of His 'Socialist' Slurs https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/ LOL...just noticed this article is 4 years old. Who cares. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 "Rasmussen acknowledged that "the Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security to its citizens," but he also noted that it is "a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish." " and this is exactly what the dem socislists want here. No one...not even AOC and Ying Yang...want the govt "running" the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Clevfan4life said: "Rasmussen acknowledged that "the Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security to its citizens," but he also noted that it is "a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish." " and this is exactly what the dem socislists want here. No one...not even AOC and Ying Yang...want the govt "running" the market. Ten Reasons We Can’t, and Shouldn’t, Be Nordic https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/ten-reasons-we-cant-and-shouldnt-be-nordic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: Ten Reasons We Can’t, and Shouldn’t, Be Nordic https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/ten-reasons-we-cant-and-shouldnt-be-nordic/ we shouldnt be "nordic"...we should be whats right for us. Most people in this country want more collectivism but up to a "point". Theres things better handled through collectivist action and others better handled through individual. Nobody wants the u.s govt to make cars for example.....thats a consumer good. But energy production, healthcare etc,et. I would argue also food production needs looked at because capitalism has destroyed our soil. whatever deals in finite resources should prob be handled collectively, because capitalism shits through a resource with astounding quickness and ZERO thought to future sustainability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Clevfan4life said: we shouldnt be "nordic"...we should be whats right for us. Most people in this country want more collectivism but up to a "point". Theres things better handled through collectivist action and others better handled through individual. Nobody wants the u.s govt to make cars for example.....thats a consumer good. But energy production, healthcare etc,et. I would argue also food production needs looked at because capitalism has destroyed our soil. whatever deals in finite resources should prob be handled collectively. The title of that article could also be why Nordic socialism will not work in the United States. I know we need government but less is almost always better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: The title of that article could also be why Nordic socialism will not work in the United States. I know we need government but less is almost always better. its all about "where"....not about more vs less. Ive been beating this drum for years. A rational society figures out where they can act individually and where they must act collectively. You obviously dont have an issue with the govt running the military....but why not a private company running off the profit motive? why not? profit makes everything better..its like magic pixie dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Our government has a dismal record of delivering on it's promises.."if you want to live like a Norwegian buy a plane ticket". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, OldBrownsFan said: Our government has a dismal record of delivering on it's promises.."if you want to live like a Norwegian buy a plane ticket". but u have zero problems trusting govt to run space farce i mean force. Because "your' guy thinks its good and govt is always so very competent when it comes to running things your side wants the american taxpayer to fund. The govt cant run universal healthcare but lets not discuss the DECADES of misuse and outright frauding of the american tax payer by the military industrial complex. Thats neither here nor there. right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 and liberals do the same i get it....u can spare me the "whaaa democrats waste money too whaa whaa". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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