calfoxwc Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 the numbers speak well for Pres Trump's efforts. BUILD THE WALL. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/8/illegal-immigration-across-border-plummets-mexico-/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Did he get them to pay for the wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Trump has gotten a lot of cooperation from Mexico. He has gotten more cooperation in stemming the tide of illegal immigration from Mexico than he has from any of the democrats. By squeezing Mexico with the threat of tariffs they have taken action which they otherwise would not have taken. What Trump has done in getting Mexico to take action on their side of the border is just another of his accomplishments he will never get credit for from the MSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 I just hope that, God forbid we ever have a democrat socialist president... that every single day, Americans and Real American federal judges file lawsuits to stop him or her even having breakfast, going to the bathroom, or making any freaking decision on anything for the entire four years. you betcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Wasn’t Obama a Democratic Socialist President? Also, Not sure federal judges can file lawsuits. It’s been over 30 years since Civics classes and I’m sure they covered that topic anyway Carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Vambo said: Somehow, I can't find a little girl crying because she's being separated from her parents - illegal immigrant or otherwise - a fit subject for such flippancy as presented above. Then again, I have a conscience, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said: Somehow, I can't find a little girl crying because she's being separated from her parents - illegal immigrant or otherwise - a fit subject for such flippancy as presented above. Then again, I have a conscience, so... You do? For American citizens? But you're OK with US children being ignored? That's the point we should take care of our own before taking in illegals. They wouldn't be separated if they would have sought Sanctuary in the first country they arrived at after leaving theirs. Break our laws suffer the consequences same as US citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Yes, the image of the young girl crying is a heartbreak - but so is the parents or...fake parents making her cry all the way to try to break our immigration laws, risking her life and well-being in the process of trying to get into our country illegally. So many of those girls are raped along the way through other countries, jblu. You okay with that? Some kidnap kids to be a fake "family" to get into our country, then they send the kid back to mexico and another fake person/persons bring her, etc etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Vambo said: You do? For American citizens? But you're OK with US children being ignored? That's the point we should take care of our own before taking in illegals. They wouldn't be separated if they would have sought Sanctuary in the first country they arrived at after leaving theirs. Break our laws suffer the consequences same as US citizen. “illegal immigrant or otherwise” These situations aren’t an either or proposition unless you are a political hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 hours ago, calfoxwc said: Yes, the image of the young girl crying is a heartbreak - but so is the parents or...fake parents making her cry all the way to try to break our immigration laws, risking her life and well-being in the process of trying to get into our country illegally. So many of those girls are raped along the way through other countries, jblu. You okay with that? Some kidnap kids to be a fake "family" to get into our country, then they send the kid back to mexico and another fake person/persons bring her, etc etc. So because someone said it is sad to see a kid separated from their parents, who happen to be illegal, they must also be ok with girls getting raped? The stretches to make illegals seem worse gets more and more silly. You can make the case for not having unfettered immigration without having to turn everyone of them into Charlie Manson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 I can tell you 100% that if I was living in cartel country in Mexico with a family, legal or not, I would be finding a way out. You face the music if they catch you but it is better than the alternative. So sure build the wall but don’t pretend like every illegal is some monster. There are plenty of people here in the US who openly say they would kill for or be willing to die for the safety of their kids but somehow hopping a border illegally is a bridge too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Likely going after the low hanging fruit? Even stranger is how easily American citizens replaced those workers in jobs we were always told Americans would not take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: Likely going after the low hanging fruit? Even stranger is how easily American citizens replaced those workers in jobs we were always told Americans would not take. Americans jumped on minimum wage grunt agriculture jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Americans jumped on minimum wage grunt agriculture jobs? Americans jumped on the 150 jobs available at a chicken processing plant in Mississippi recently when 150 illegal immigrants were removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: Americans jumped on the 150 jobs available at a chicken processing plant in Mississippi recently when 150 illegal immigrants were removed. https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2019/08/12/ms-ice-raids-koch-foods-job-fair-forest-who-how-many-applied/1976033001/ 25-30 people showed up for the job fair to replace 300 jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Interesting in that story is that the employers were not charged. Funny how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, LogicIsForSquares said: https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2019/08/12/ms-ice-raids-koch-foods-job-fair-forest-who-how-many-applied/1976033001/ 25-30 people showed up for the job fair to replace 300 jobs. Americans Apply for Jobs at Koch Foods After ICE Raid https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/13/americans-apply-jobs-koch-foods-after-ice-raid/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Interesting in that story is that the employers were not charged. Funny how that works. They are smart enough to use third parties to do the hiring.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: Americans Apply for Jobs at Koch Foods After ICE Raid https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/13/americans-apply-jobs-koch-foods-after-ice-raid/ That article quoted the article I posted including the 25-30 people showing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: They are smart enough to use third parties to do the hiring.. Even then, no one hiring them will ever face charges. Republicans in office still like the cheap labor even if they have to play the game to keep the base engaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Even then, no one hiring them will ever face charges. Republicans in office still like the cheap labor even if they have to play the game to keep the base engaged. No disagreement here. The chamber of commerce wing of the republican party likes the cheap labor and they are the big donors to republicans (with all the cash they are saving on labor costs). The problem with our republican friends is their base is not on board with an open southern border so they talk tough on illegal immigration in their campaign speeches and then after being elected do little in DC to fix the problem. Always follow the money trail. These big time donors and special interest groups aren't shelling out all that money for nothing.They get a return for their investment. * This is one of the reasons I like Trump. He is probably less beholden to special interest groups than any other president in my lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 WATCH: Ken Cuccinelli destroys CNN host playing ‘gotcha’ with Statue of Liberty https://therightscoop.com/watch-ken-cuccinelli-destroys-cnn-host-playing-gotcha-with-statue-of-liberty/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 It's time to start being honest with yourself - that wall is pure fantasy and it's never going to get built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, The Cysko Kid said: It's time to start being honest with yourself - that wall is pure fantasy and it's never going to get built. And you might be right but I would not blame Trump..as president he can do only so much but without support in congress there is not much he can do.It seems like anything he can do such as with executive orders, pressuring Mexico to take action, and diverting money from the military to build the wall he is doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 hours ago, LogicIsForSquares said: “illegal immigrant or otherwise” These situations aren’t an either or proposition unless you are a political hack. You either obey the law or you break the law. You do it the right legal way "welcome to your new home" Sneak in break the law deported. unless you're a political hack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, The Cysko Kid said: It's time to start being honest with yourself - that wall is pure fantasy and it's never going to get built. gloating over the dems blocking building the wall at every turn, over one or two corrupt leftwing activist federal judges interferring, and you want to say that is Pres Trump's fault? seriously? yes, he can finally go ahead with military money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, Vambo said: You either obey the law or you break the law. You do it the right legal way "welcome to your new home" Sneak in break the law deported. unless you're a political hack! Your response has fuck all to do with what I said. You asked Jblu if he was o.k. with it happening to US kids as if what he said in anyway infers that he would be OK with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: gloating over the dems blocking building the wall at every turn, over one or two corrupt leftwing activist federal judges interferring, and you want to say that is Pres Trump's fault? seriously? yes, he can finally go ahead with military money. Build it with that Mexican money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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