Westside Steve Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 If possible let's not start screaming at each other right off the bat. Can we all agree that the fact that Hunter Biden who is making millions in the Ukraine most likely because his father was a powerful politician? Can we all agree that in itself that doesn't add up to any illegality? Can we also agree that there's at least the appearance of impropriety? If these things are true why is there a problem with asking for an investigation? In watching the hearings they kept pounding on the question of who benefits from an investigation. If the investigation comes up empty it would seem that Senator Biden would benefit right? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: If possible let's not start screaming at each other right off the bat. Can we all agree that the fact that Hunter Biden who is making millions in the Ukraine most likely because his father was a powerful politician? Can we all agree that in itself that doesn't add up to any illegality? Can we also agree that there's at least the appearance of impropriety? If these things are true why is there a problem with asking for an investigation? In watching the hearings they kept pounding on the question of who benefits from an investigation. If the investigation comes up empty it would seem that Senator Biden would benefit right? WSS There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Of course we can agree on that. this has been going for quite some time, both red and blue. Drain the Swamp is a real thing that applies to both parties. Trump has seen this going on for years, people have been very sloppy thinking it would never be challenged. #MAGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, OldBrownsFan said: There is some evidence that Biden's son who was hired as a board member of Burisma and got a huge amount of money for nothing except being the vice president's son did pay dividends when the prosecutor looking into corruption at Burisma was fired after Ukraine was given the ultimatum by Joe Biden to fire the prosecutor in 6 hours or Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in aid from the United States.....can there be any doubt that Biden's son was hired on the Burisma board only because they were buying influence? So, quid pro quo, in other words. How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, jbluhm86 said: So, quid pro quo, in other words. How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? There is more to it than just Hunter Biden. As everyone has testified Ukraine is ripe with corruption and holding up aid until it is confirmed the new president of Ukraine is actually tackling corruption is not only a valid excuse but mandated by law. Because Biden's son is also a possible part of the corruption should that be off limits to investigate because Joe Biden is running for president? There has not even been established by the sham impeachment hearing there was a quid pro quo as Sonderland's presumption are worthless in a real court and only has sway in the impeachment hearing because that is political theater. In fact in direct evidence Trump tells Sonderland there is no quid pro quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, jbluhm86 said: So, quid pro quo, in other words. How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? Didn't take long for this one to jump the track. If in fact there's nothing wrong with Hunter Biden job then how could the investigation possibly help the Trump campaign? And why would the vice president wanted to shut down? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 You expected otherwise? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, jbluhm86 said: So, quid pro quo, in other words. How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? except the military defensive weapons were temporarily held up because Pres Trump wanted to be sure the corrupt folks were gone. They were, the military weapons were released. That's all. The Ukraine never knew the weapons were held up. Said weapons, btw, obamao and co. refused to send to the Ukraine anyway, because obaMao didn't want to annoy Putin. The timeline clearly shows that investigation of the bidens had nothing to do with it. But, secret spies in the Pres Trump wh decided it did... they were against Pres Trump anyways. Dirty Eric Ciaramella, vindman..... (who btw, was reprimanded at one point for joking around with the russians in a program, and running down America and the American people to them...and... was discovered to be the leaker in the WH and got fired...) I've listened to these bureaucrats and the anti-Trumpers/resistance are hell bent on owning America, and running the show globalist wise. As to the actual question - quid pro Joe Biden gets happy his son gets rich on the board in the Ukraine...and protects his son by openly demanding the prosector be fired or Joe Biden doesn't let any money get to the Ukraine. Of course, there is some serious wrong there: graft noun blackmail, bribery, corruption, fraudulent income, hush money, illegal profit, illicit profit, illicit revenue, inserere, kickback, money illegally accuired, political corruption, profiteering, property illegally acquired, unjust acquisition, unlawful gainAssociated concepts: bribery, corruption, official misconduct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 hours ago, jbluhm86 said: So, quid pro quo, in other words. How is Trump holding military aid up unless Hunter Biden was investigated any different, then? That motive has only been speculated, but not established. To answer you question though, it wouldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Under Obama no aid went to Ukraine to appease Putin, now these dem cocksuckers are accusing Trump of holding up aid to poor poor Ukraine. What Trump did made perfect sense. Trump vowed not to open Americas pockets to countries that do not support US policies or that are corrupt, and that includes Ukraine...which was infested with corruption. Ukraine undermined the Trump campaign, conspired with the Democrats and the Obama DOJ to help concoct this scheme that Trump’s colluding with Russia. Trump knew what Ukraine had done and wanted assurance from Zelinsky that Ukraine was cleaning house. He had every right to do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Westside Steve said: If possible let's not start screaming at each other right off the bat. Can we all agree that the fact that Hunter Biden who is making millions in the Ukraine most likely because his father was a powerful politician? Can we all agree that in itself that doesn't add up to any illegality? Can we also agree that there's at least the appearance of impropriety? If these things are true why is there a problem with asking for an investigation? In watching the hearings they kept pounding on the question of who benefits from an investigation. If the investigation comes up empty it would seem that Senator Biden would benefit right? WSS No investigation because biden is a not a Republican, otherwise there would already be one in progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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