Neo-nazi-like democrat/socialists out of control - hate spreading like a zombie apocolypse

[MLD Woody]

Two things Cal

Every view you have is determined by whether or not it helps the Reps. I don't care. I don't care whether something helps Dems, Reps, or neither of them. I'm just going with what makes the most sense. I'm not blindly following any party. Our system right now has a large number of votes that are completely useless. Your vote may legitimately not matter. That doesn't make any sense. 

The founding fathers were very smart. They weren't perfect tho, or fortune tellers, and they knew that. That's why they added the ability to modify the Constitution. They knew the need would come up. 

[calfoxwc]

all true, except it isn't a matter of helping the reps - it's a matter of NOT hurting the reps.

The point is, the left was happy with the electoral college til it kept them from winning what and when they so desperately wanted to win.

The last pres election was crucial to controlling the supreme court, adding more and more activist lefty judges federally, across the board, keeping the deep state as powerful as it could be, keep control of the FBI, CIA, NSA, IRS, EPA, DOJ,....etc etc.

that is just the way I see it. It's the rage of losing that they have decided to focus on the electoral college as their enemy. I support the electoral college- always have, and like I said - America has shifted left to right, right to left on a fairly consistent basis.

  In that, I simply support the status quo.

[MLD Woody]

Treating the supreme Court as a political, partisan battleground is bad. I'd want that addressed as well. Potentially with finite terms. 

Plus term limits for those in Congress. 

It also isn't an actual rebuttal to just say "well you're only saying that because you lost." I'd rather hear why it's actually a bad idea. I didn't even vote for Clinton. I don't care. I want the system that makes the most sense.

Votes in small states can be worth 4 or 5 times as much as a vote in a large state. Alright, fine. I can see how you don't want to marginalize those from small states... though that should be looked into. Hell, you can win the presidency with about 20% of the popular vote 

More important to me is the fact that so many votes are meaningless. I don't see how anyone can defend that. The all or nothing system needs fixed.

[calfoxwc]

I'm not getting that. Putting Justices on the Court that adhere to the Constitution/Bill of Rights as originally written and intended doesn't making it political. The left putting activist judges whose social liberalism lends itself to rationalizing into leftwing decisions -regardless- of having zero Constitutional bases. Not in terms of the Senate, but generally, in terms of reps in the House, sure. as it should be.

checks and balances. BTW, if 270 delegates are required to win....that hardly is means it can be done with 20% of the overall vote.

at least I don't think so, offhand.

[MLD Woody]

12 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

I'm not getting that. Putting Justices on the Court that adhere to the Constitution/Bill of Rights as originally written and intended doesn't making it political. The left putting activist judges whose social liberalism lends itself to rationalizing into leftwing decisions -regardless- of having zero Constitutional bases. Not in terms of the Senate, but generally, in terms of reps in the House, sure. as it should be.

checks and balances. BTW, if 270 delegates are required to win....that hardly is means it can be done with 20% of the overall vote.

at least I don't think so, offhand.

It 100% can be done. 

All you need to do is win the smallest states 51% to 49%. The people in those states literally count for more than those in Cali or Texas. 

You start from the smallest and work your way up. The % of the 270 electoral votes you need will climb much faster than the % of the popular vote you're getting. 

Once you get to 270 you're done. You could get 0% of the vote in Cali, Texas, etc and it won't matter. 

It's just simple math from a broken system. 

[calfoxwc]

8 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

It 100% can be done. 

All you need to do is win the smallest states 51% to 49%. The people in those states literally count for more than those in Cali or Texas. 

You start from the smallest and work your way up. The % of the 270 electoral votes you need will climb much faster than the % of the popular vote you're getting. 

Once you get to 270 you're done. You could get 0% of the vote in Cali, Texas, etc and it won't matter. 

It's just simple math from a broken system. 

it could be - but here, in conclusion is the reason why is must not happen.

You said I was interested in benefitting the reps, not true.

As I stated above, the idea you have here, would benefit reps in California HUGELY. It would benefit Dems in Texas HUGELY.

The problem, as I stated, is that we have already had giant controversies over close elections - we are so politically divided.

Like Bush vs Gore. That was a fiasco, battling over Florida to see who is president. and of course, Trump vs Dirty Higgardly.

SO, with your idea, instead of having controversies over the electoral college winner take all elections in important states...

according to the rage and hatred...of the left, and the even political divide, no one would get to 270 votes.

Meaning the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CONGRESS would get to pick the next president. I showed that up above.

and never knew that.

So, THANK GOD we have our "winner take all" system, or the crisis above would probably take place every four years.

or, the entirely of American voters would have their votes null and void !

The left blew up over the anger the left has over losing a desperately "must-have" election. The "deep state" has serious fear of Pres Trump - he isn't playing their game as usual. Bush Cheney/ obamao/biden/etc... didn't worry the deep staters in our gov.

But, OUR ELECTED President Trump worries the hell out of them. The Clintons corruption, obamao/biden corruption, Comey/Clapper/Brennan/Rice/HiggardlyMcCabe were all dirty.

Sure, democrats, since they have a corrupt leftwing majority control of the House, would love the change to your idea, so they could pick the president instead of us.