calfoxwc Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 I wish it didn't take so much time. in addition to my long list of deep state corrupt turds, add another corrupt turd - weismann, the corrupt pit bull. https://www.theblaze.com/news/doj-opens-news-investigation-into-james-comey-andrew-mccabe-peter-strzok-former-top-official-says DOJ opens news investigation into James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, former top DOJ official says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: I wish it didn't take so much time. in addition to my long list of deep state corrupt turds, add another corrupt turd - weismann, the corrupt pit bull. https://www.theblaze.com/news/doj-opens-news-investigation-into-james-comey-andrew-mccabe-peter-strzok-former-top-official-says DOJ opens news investigation into James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, former top DOJ official says You must be so proud of your Banana Republic and it's ability to abuse the DOJ for the new King. Chavez had nothin' on the KIng. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: You must be so proud of your Banana Republic and it's ability to abuse the DOJ for the new King. Chavez had nothin' on the KIng. What did you think of Obama's DOJ? Eric Holder was even bragging that he was Obama's "wingman". Eric Holder’s legacy As Attorney General Eric Holder finally departs, he leaves behind a demoralized Justice Department that has been politicized to an unprecedented degree. Attorneys general are obligated to enforce the law in an objective, unbiased and nonpolitical manner. They must demonstrate the highest regard for the best interests of the public and their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the United States. Prior attorneys general of both political parties, such as Benjamin Civiletti, Griffin Bell, Ed Meese and Michael Mukasey, have fulfilled that duty to the highest ethical and professional standards. But not Eric Holder. He put the interests of his political boss first, and the interests of the administration of justice a very distant second. When President Obama bent, broke, changed or rewrote the law, the person at his side advising him how to do it was Eric Holder. All the while, he maintained a facade of respect for the rule of law, something for which he and the president have, at times, shown utter contempt. Mr. Holder’s failure to enforce federal laws such as our immigration statutes on a wholesale basis is a particularly acute betrayal of the most basic standard that applies to the attorney general. Instead of acting as the nation’s chief law enforcement officer, Mr. Holder instead has acted as the political lawyer of an overly partisan president. Perhaps that’s why Mr. Holder has one of the lowest approval ratings of any public official. The recent cases in which judges have found Justice Department prosecutors to have engaged in prosecutorial abuse during Mr. Holder’s tenure show how much this high-level corruption has also seeped into the lower levels of the department. In a failed prosecution of a peaceful abortion protester, for example, a federal judge remarked on the nearly total lack of evidence of any violation of the law. The protester had been targeted to chill the political speech of pro-life advocates. In another case involving police officers in New Orleans, a federal judge found the Justice Department had committed “grotesque prosecutorial abuse” and complained about the “skullduggery” and “perfidy” of Justice prosecutors. The politically motivated hiring in the civil service ranks that has gone on in parts of the Justice Department, such as the Civil Rights Division, guarantees that radical ideologues will continue to permeate the department for years to come. As former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy has said, under Eric Holder the Justice Department has become a “full employment program for progressive activists, race-obsessed bean counters (redundant, I know), and lawyers who volunteered their services during the Bush years to help al Qaeda operatives file lawsuits against the United States.” The legal theories advanced by the administration have been so far outside of the mainstream that the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled against Mr. Holder’s Justice Department unanimously almost two-dozen times. Those cases have ranged from the Hosanna-Tabor decision, where the Justice Department claimed the religious freedom clause of the First Amendment did not protect the hiring decisions of a church, to the Sackett case, where the Justice Department tried to prevent a family from defending itself in court and contesting a ludicrous administrative order from Environmental Protection Agency bureaucrats that would subject them to a fine of up to $75,000 a day. Many of those cases have a common theme: a frightening view of unlimited federal power, one untempered by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Eric Holder has aggressively used the enormous power of the Justice Department to abuse the liberty and economic rights of Americans, to manipulate racial politics and drive a wedge of hostility deep into our society, and to exploit the administration of justice as a political tool to benefit his president and his political party. There is no way to know how long it will take to repair the damage he has done. One thing we do know — it will take a new attorney general with the political willpower and steadfastness of a kind that is rarely seen in Washington. Unfortunately, it is unlikely Loretta Lynch will clean up Mr. Holder’s misbegotten legacy. She made it clear in her confirmation hearings that she did not disagree with a single act of Mr. Holder or Mr. Obama. Accordingly, her tenure will probably just be Holder 2.0. To paraphrase Mark Twain, we won’t be invited to attend Eric Holder’s going-away festivities at the Justice Department, but we certainly approve of those festivities, since they mean that one of the worst attorneys general in recent memory is finally leaving the department. https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/eric-holders-legacy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: What did you think of Obama's DOJ? Eric Holder was even bragging that he was Obama's "wingman". I don't like any of them abusing the power of the office and neither do these people. https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/16/william-barr-doj-alumnus-call-ag-resign/4779721002/ "Such behavior is a grave threat to the fair administration of justice. In this nation, we are all equal before the law," the letter says. "A person should not be given special treatment in a criminal prosecution because they are a close political ally of the President. Governments that use the enormous power of law enforcement to punish their enemies and reward their allies are not constitutional republics; they are autocracies." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: I don't like any of them abusing the power of the office and neither do these people. https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/16/william-barr-doj-alumnus-call-ag-resign/4779721002/ I would like to know exactly what Barr did to have to resign? In the Stone case he did nothing wrong ....or tell me what Barr did wrong? What has Barr done wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 Here is what is really happening Tex and this is all dirty politics. Barr is investigating the corrupt "investigators" and now they are doing everything they can to discredit Barr and shut down his investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: I don't like any of them abusing the power of the office and neither do these people. https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/16/william-barr-doj-alumnus-call-ag-resign/4779721002/ "Such behavior is a grave threat to the fair administration of justice. In this nation, we are all equal before the law," the letter says. "A person should not be given special treatment in a criminal prosecution because they are a close political ally of the President. Governments that use the enormous power of law enforcement to punish their enemies and reward their allies are not constitutional republics; they are autocracies." "Four career prosecutors withdrew from the Stone case after the DOJ intervened to reduce its recommended sentence for Trump’s longtime friend and ally. The intervention comes after Trump criticized the seven to nine-year sentence recommendation as a “miscarriage of justice.” *** This is from the article Tex and it is factually misleading. Barr said even before Trump tweeted he had made the decision to reverse the recommendations of the Mueller prosecutors. The recommendation of 7 to 9 years was way out of proportion to the process crime of lying to congress. The sentencing guidelines for rape and other heinous crimes was far less than what was being recommended for Stone. This was prosecutorial abuse of power by the Mueller prosecutors. Stone had no prior record and there was no reason for the recommendation of 7-9 years and not even to mention the SWAT team, frog men and CNN cameras when Stone was arrested which again was way out of proportion for a process crime. Trump made things worse for Barr by his tweet. It gave the appearance that Trump was directing Barr but Barr said Trump never contacted him personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 18 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said: Here is what is really happening Tex and this is all dirty politics. Barr is investigating the corrupt "investigators" and now they are doing everything they can to discredit Barr and shut down his investigation. the deep state is terrified. what they have done is going to come to light, and it is very, very bad for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 3:17 PM, OldBrownsFan said: Here is what is really happening Tex and this is all dirty politics. Barr is investigating the corrupt "investigators" and now they are doing everything they can to discredit Barr and shut down his investigation. It's a bi-partisan organization and the signatories are now over 2000. They are trying to keep this from becoming the far right wing Venezuelan dictatorship where cronies are protected by the autocrat. Doesn't matter whether it is far right or far left when it's an autocratic government. Either one is not where we want to be as the world's greatest democracy. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/16/william-barr-doj-alumnus-call-ag-resign/4779721002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: It's a bi-partisan organization and the signatories are now over 2000. They are trying to keep this from becoming the far right wing Venezuelan dictatorship where cronies are protected by the autocrat. Doesn't matter whether it is far right or far left when it's an autocratic government. Either one is not where we want to be as the world's greatest democracy. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/16/william-barr-doj-alumnus-call-ag-resign/4779721002/ It is not a bipartisan group at all unless you are including never Trumpers. The Protect Democracy Project (PDP) is a left-of-center litigation organization created to oppose the policies of President Donald Trump. https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/protect-democracy-project/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 Here is more Tex about the "non partisan" Protect Democracy Project. George Soros' involvement is all you need to know about this group Soros-Tied Obama Lawyers Form Group to Battle Trump https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2017/03/03/soros-tied-obama-lawyers-group-emerges-battle-trump/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, OldBrownsFan said: It is not a bipartisan group at all unless you are including never Trumpers. The Protect Democracy Project (PDP) is a left-of-center litigation organization created to oppose the policies of President Donald Trump. https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/protect-democracy-project/ Then who is involved in the Federal Judges Association? More and more people are realizing the threat to democracy here. Even the Bush appointed Federal Judge who heads this association who has called an emergency meeting tomorrow. https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judges-association-calls-emergency-220244852.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 8 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: Then who is involved in the Federal Judges Association? More and more people are realizing the threat to democracy here. Even the Bush appointed Federal Judge who heads this association who has called an emergency meeting tomorrow. https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judges-association-calls-emergency-220244852.html All politics Tex. I worked for a few judges and they are VERY political ...trust me. Now one of the prosecutors who recommended 7-9 years in the Stone case is claiming he was strong armed by the other (political) prosecutors to recommend the heavy handed sentence. Where was the Federal Judges Assoc when Roger Stone was arrested using a SWAT team with guns at the ready and frog men in the back yard and CNN cameras tipped off and ready to capture it all on film? This was a PROCESS crime and a TOTAL abuse of federal power to make the arrest like that to a 68 year old man, with no passport with no prior record and charged with a PROCESS crime of lying to congress. All they needed to do to arrest Stone was to notify Stones attorney and he would have surrendered to the authorities but then they wouldn't be making a POLITICAL statement with the SWAT team and CNN cameras would they? Isn't this kind of abuse of power a threat to our democracy? What is really a threat to our democracy is the silent coup to take down a duly elected president by officials of the CIA and FBI and the DOJ. Because you watch too much MSNBC you were convinced that Trump campaign colluded with Russia but all those democrat political hacks at MSNBC posing as journalists were wrong weren't they? And what happened to MSNBC and CNN's Trump hating attorney Michael Avalentti? He is in prison for attempting to extort NIKE and now CNN and MSNBC are forced to admit they were wrong to have Avalenti on so many times presenting him as a credible source. BUT Avalenti was telling them what they wanted to hear. They ate him up because he spewed out hatred for Trump and they LOVED that. BTW - if these Federal Judges are so concerned about Trump's involvement with the DOJ where were they when Obama did it with the IRS scandal? What is the difference between Trump's tweets and Obama going on 60 minutes involving a current criminal case? Answer none. Here is a news nugget you will never hear from your liberal media outlets. This is all political being directed by the left with help from their media allies all in an attempt to take down AG Bill Barr. Barr is investigating the corrupt "investigators" and they don't want that. You can only investigate one side. You should be concerned Tex about the two tiered justice system and applauding Barr for his integrity. But you are infected with TDS and that won't happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, OldBrownsFan said: But you are infected with TDS and that won't happen. Or you are infected by too much Fox/Brietbart & the Russian covert propaganda machine that is foisting off Ukraine interfered with the election on a base and a president who's Narcissistic Personality Disorder will not allow him to admit Russia helped him win. It's the same problem he had being unable to accept Obama having bigger crowds at his inauguration than trumpy. It was the first Big Lie he sent his press secretary out to foist on us. I thought his best and most flagrant one since then was his piss poor attempt to tell us he said "I see no reason why it wouldn't be Russia" the day after his Helsinki joint press conference when he said the opposite because Putin told him it wasn't Russia. That despite his entire intelligence community agreeing Russia interfered. What none of you really gets is that the Russian Propaganda machine is very sharp and they know exactly how to play a Narcissistic Personality Disorder like a fiddle. They have their own psychiatrists and psychologists who have him diagnosed to a tee. And you can bet Putin is being given excellent advice by them on how to keep that going. Thus the Ukraine fiasco trap that bonehead fell right into. He didn't need any help from any "deep state". The Russians are playing him and his base like the chess champions they produce while Trump just keeps saying, "King me."🤴 Always labeling me TDS just helps you keep your collective heads buried in the sand while Russia systematically destructs this democracy through the most vulnerable man they thought would help them the most. They got it right. Hopefully the country realizes that before he does even more destruction to the Western Alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Or you are infected by too much Fox/Brietbart & the Russian covert propaganda machine that is foisting off Ukraine interfered with the election on a base and a president who's Narcissistic Personality Disorder will not allow him to admit Russia helped him win. It's the same problem he had being unable to accept Obama having bigger crowds at his inauguration than trumpy. It was the first Big Lie he sent his press secretary out to foist on us. I thought his best and most flagrant one since then was his piss poor attempt to tell us he said "I see no reason why it wouldn't be Russia" the day after his Helsinki joint press conference when he said the opposite because Putin told him it wasn't Russia. That despite his entire intelligence community agreeing Russia interfered. What none of you really gets is that the Russian Propaganda machine is very sharp and they know exactly how to play a Narcissistic Personality Disorder like a fiddle. They have their own psychiatrists and psychologists who have him diagnosed to a tee. And you can bet Putin is being given excellent advice by them on how to keep that going. Thus the Ukraine fiasco trap that bonehead fell right into. He didn't need any help from any "deep state". The Russians are playing him and his base like the chess champions they produce while Trump just keeps saying, "King me."🤴 Always labeling me TDS just helps you keep your collective heads buried in the sand while Russia systematically destructs this democracy through the most vulnerable man they thought would help them the most. They got it right. Hopefully the country realizes that before he does even more destruction to the Western Alliance. We know Ukraine did try to interfere with the 2016 election but I agree they weren't the main culprit that was Russia. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446. Even with Russia there is a lot of evidence their interference was small, amateurish and insignificant: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/russiagate-elections-interference/ No disagreement it was silly to try to make the larger crowd than Obama argument. Not too many people really care. It is always going to be a challenge for any republican to draw a larger inauguration crowd than a democrat because DC population runs so lopsidedly democrat. Our intelligence agencies to me obviously need more oversight. When Chuck Schumer said you don't want to cross our intelligence agencies because they will come back at you six different ways from Sunday should we really have Senators fearing our intelligence agency or should that sound the alarm they need to be reigned in where they are focused on outside threats and not political opponents? Look at the leaking our intelligence agencies have done with Trump where Trump cannot have a private conversation with a foreign leader and that private conversation gets leaked out by our intelligence agencies. I believe Trump has narcissist tendencies and his actions seem to show that but I saw it with Obama too. Obama did not have buildings or planes with his name on it but in every speech he gave all you had to do is go back and count the "I's" in his speeches. He always made everything about himself. So we had Obama with the same narcissist personality saying things secretly (he thought it was secret but he was caught on a hot mic) "tell Vladimar (Putin) when I get re-elected I will have more flexibility". No red flags Tex? Even if Russia tried to manipulate Trump it cannot be done in a vacuum and I don't think we have to fear that. Trump is constrained by the constitution and our executive branch does have oversight (which I believe the democrats are abusing with endless investigations and a sham impeachment). China is our real threat. I was surprised to see how little of an economy that Russia has (about the size of Italy) but because they have nuclear capabilities we must always take them seriously but China and China wanting to be the dominant super power in the world is our real threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldBrownsFan Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Uh oh. There is the smoking gun for Tex...😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 hours ago, OldBrownsFan said: Uh oh. There is the smoking gun for Tex...😄 Where there's smoke there's (Nuclear) fire?☢️💥 Thank goodness I was the honor grad in the 1st Inf Div NBC School when I was with the National Guard (post-Vietnam) LOL!😹 PS-That means nuclear biological chemical, Not National Broadcasting Company 😁 Now they call it CBRN (Chem.Bio.Rad.Nuc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 2:44 PM, OldBrownsFan said: What did you think of Obama's DOJ? Eric Holder was even bragging that he was Obama's "wingman". Apples and oranges, OBF.... and you, too, Ag. Historically all administrations have selected areas of Federal Law in which to emphasize and deemphasize enforcement. These choices have been made at the policy level. The targeting of specific political opponents, or an "enemies list" is a whole 'nother matter... For most of the names listed in your OP this is at least the second "investigation" into them. The first turned up insufficient information to support charges. I did, however, enjoy the headline's use of the term "dramatic". A bit surprised Ag did not comment on its use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: Historically all administrations have selected areas of Federal Law in which to emphasize and deemphasize enforcement. These choices have been made at the policy level. I would be happy to read some evidence of that. There is "enforce the law" and "ignore the law when it's politically expedient to the left" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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