VaporTrail Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 https://taibbi.substack.com/p/nprs-brilliant-self-own Here's another fun article from Taibbi. From 2010-2014 I listened to NPR pretty religiously. Got a decent source of news, local musicians, and interesting stories about niche scientists that I otherwise wouldn't have heard of. From 2014 on, the station has increasingly become more reliant on grievances about race, gender, and Trump to the point where it became unlistenable for me. The last time I listened to it, they were going on and on about the threat of the boogaloo (which was and still is a fucking meme). Taibbi's article is a response to this article How Ben Shapiro Is Using Facebook To Build A Business Empire : NPR (archive.is) - archive linked so you don't have to give those dipshits at NPR an adclick. I personally think that Shapiro is your typical, blindly supporting of Israel, neocon dipshit. However, the way that the author of this article rationalizes why Shapiro's The Daily Wire is doing so much better than NPR and the rest of legacy media, while at the same time, willfully ignoring how NPR does all the same shit in the other direction is just poetic. The following quote is from that article Quote But as Settle explains, by only covering specific stories that bolster the conservative agenda (such as negative reports about socialist countries and polarizing ones about race and sexuality issues) and only including certain facts, readers still come away from The Daily Wire's content with the impression that Republican politicians can do little wrong and cancel culture is among the nation's greatest threats. In this quote, you could change Daily Wire to any mainstream media outlet, Republican to Democrat, and cancel culture to Trumpism and the sentence would be just as accurate. It would be nice to see people/politicians/news outlets who showed some introspection instead of just blaming the other side, but I guess that's asking too much in this day and age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 There are definitely many parallels between far right wing and left wing media outlets. They attempt the same things to gain clicks and money. Though the right wing base seems to buy into it all more. But I still think the push to equate ABC to The Blaze is ridiculous though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 since Rush Limbaugh died - there are few "commentators" that I will listen to for their take on a given topic. Shapiro is pretty good I think - but in small doses. I dont particularly care for the rah rah - cheerleading or "gotcha" type headlines that sometimes come across as some conservative sites compete for clicks. But it doesnt matter in light of the opposite options of BS from all the other liberal msm sites, they are tanking and I couldnt care less that they fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: There are definitely many parallels between far right wing and left wing media outlets. They attempt the same things to gain clicks and money. Though the right wing base seems to buy into it all more. But I still think the push to equate ABC to The Blaze is ridiculous though. Stick to engineering. You suck at other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: There are definitely many parallels between far right wing and left wing media outlets. They attempt the same things to gain clicks and money. Though the right wing base seems to buy into it all more. But I still think the push to equate ABC to The BlazeThe Huffington Post is ridiculous though. See what I did? We just swung the pendulum to the left, and your post remains intact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: See what I did? We just swung the pendulum to the left, and your post remains intact. What exactly do you think you just did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: But I still think the push to equate ABC to The Blaze is ridiculous though. I disagree. This is ABC. How is this cheerleading any different than the cheerleading that happens on The Blaze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, VaporTrail said: I disagree. This is ABC. How is this cheerleading any different than the cheerleading that happens on The Blaze? on the Blaze, they have REASONS why they say what they say, often with factual historical background. on the view? the never have reasons, they just emotionally knee jerk with their controversial asinine unsubstantiated blurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Its tough to find unbiased reporting in this world of entertainment news places. Bur like WSS said a few times - watching MSNBC to see what the other side is saying- get both sides and decide for yourself. trouble is so many people still believe the msm is their ALL in ALL when it comes to "trusted" news and they arent... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 58 minutes ago, FairHooker11 said: Its tough to find unbiased reporting in this world of entertainment news places. Bur like WSS said a few times - watching MSNBC to see what the other side is saying- get both sides and decide for yourself. trouble is so many people still believe the msm is their ALL in ALL when it comes to "trusted" news and they arent... That's true. It used to be part of my morning routine to drink coffee and watch Morning Joe until the bosses at MSNBC put the clamps on any kind of reasonable center left programming. By the way I'm not exactly sure if left or right wing Networks order there commentators to move further in One Direction or the other or if they just hire people who are already on the fringe? (And by Fringe I mean only they left or right wing of Fairly normal politics. It's not like we're going to have an actual Nazi station or a Klan station.) WSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 hours ago, VaporTrail said: I disagree. This is ABC. How is this cheerleading any different than the cheerleading that happens on The Blaze? That is a clip from a show on ABC. A quick Google search shows they've had conservatives as guests as well. Sure that's left biased, but it also clearly isn't trying to be news. Regardless, that doesn't mean the entirety of ABC equates to the entirety of The Blaze. "MSM" is used all over the place to describe anything that is pro Trump and attempts to create false equivalencies across a wide range of media outlets. I do appreciate that YouTube account's Red Ribbon Army profile pic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: That is a clip from a show on ABC. A quick Google search shows they've had conservatives as guests as well. Sure that's left biased, but it also clearly isn't trying to be news. Regardless, that doesn't mean the entirety of ABC equates to the entirety of The Blaze. "MSM" is used all over the place to describe anything that is pro Trump and attempts to create false equivalencies across a wide range of media outlets. wait. You don't even know what the msm is? SERIOUSLY ? LOL. and you call anybody else a moron? egad. Mainstream Liberal Media Is On Its Deathbed — Here's Why ... https://thecontinentaldaily.com/mainstream-liberal-media-is-on-its-deathbed-heres-why/ Mainstream Liberal Media Is On Its Deathbed — Here's Why. America's news media has soiled itself, and the public recognizes it. A recent survey shows that only one third of Americans trust the media to report the facts, with conservatives having lower trust than other demographics. The global survey also found that American trust in media ... liberal mainstream media - Accuracy in Media https://www.aim.org/tag/liberal-mainstream-media/ Why is the liberal mainstream media ignoring Katie Couric's remarks on fake news? Couric, who currently works at Yahoo, recently said that fake news is the reason behind America "tearing apart ... Mainstream Media's Incessant Lies Are Tearing America ... https://townhall.com/columnists/christalgo/2021/04/27/mainstream-medias-incessant-lies-are-tearing-america-apart-n2588565 Apr 27, 2021The Media Research Council has prepared an exhaustive study on this subject, titled "The Liberal Media: Every Poll Shows Journalists Are More Liberal than the American Public — And the Public ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 hours ago, MLD Woody said: What exactly do you think you just did? ABC is closer to The Huffington Post then it is to The Blaze. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: That is a clip from a show on ABC. A quick Google search shows they've had conservatives as guests as well. Sure that's left biased, but it also clearly isn't trying to be news. Regardless, that doesn't mean the entirety of ABC equates to the entirety of The Blaze. "MSM" is used all over the place to describe anything that is pro Trump and attempts to create false equivalencies across a wide range of media outlets. I do appreciate that YouTube account's Red Ribbon Army profile pic though. Meghan McCain was a host on that show to give you an idea of what kind of conservatives would go on it. And you were the one who suggested comparing ABC to The Blaze was ridiculous. The video demonstrates that, just like The Blaze, network television can get their viewership fired up on at best, incomplete and slanted information, and at worst, willfully ignoring evidence to counter the narrative they're suggesting. I disagree with your argument that "The View" isn't trying to be news. They talk to an audience about current events - I just searched for "The View" and this was the first thing that came up from within the last hour, just to give an example. How would you define "news?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, VaporTrail said: Meghan McCain was a host on that show to give you an idea of what kind of conservatives would go on it. And you were the one who suggested comparing ABC to The Blaze was ridiculous. The video demonstrates that, just like The Blaze, network television can get their viewership fired up on at best, incomplete and slanted information, and at worst, willfully ignoring evidence to counter the narrative they're suggesting. I disagree with your argument that "The View" isn't trying to be news. They talk to an audience about current events - I just searched for "The View" and this was the first thing that came up from within the last hour, just to give an example. How would you define "news?" Opinion and News have been completely intertwined. I get that. Same way Tucker is treated like news but in court the argument is made that no one would seriously consider him news. I would consider the View a talk show / opinion show and not news show. I don't doubt people get their news from it though. And, like I said, all of those lines are being blurred. Again though, the existence of the view on ABC doesn't equate the whole network to the blaze. That's the point I'm making. Anything that isn't in love with trump is thrown into this apparently incredibly left wing biased MSM monolith. Whether it's Mother Jones or NBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 I'd still argue that it's not ridiculous to draw a comparison between ABC and The Blaze. Your argument is essentially, if you don't count the fringers on the station, it's not that bad. ABC is just as much Jimmy Kimmel and The View as it is 20/20 and Good Morning America. If your argument was that 20/20 was not comparable to The Blaze, I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. As it is, ABCs worst offenders are every bit as bad as The Blaze. So long as network news keeps putting these clowns out there, the comparison will remain apt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, VaporTrail said: I'd still argue that it's not ridiculous to draw a comparison between ABC and The Blaze. Your argument is essentially, if you don't count the fringers on the station, it's not that bad. ABC is just as much Jimmy Kimmel and The View as it is 20/20 and Good Morning America. If your argument was that 20/20 was not comparable to The Blaze, I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. As it is, ABCs worst offenders are every bit as bad as The Blaze. So long as network news keeps putting these clowns out there, the comparison will remain apt. I guess it just depends then on if you consider the network at the level of it's worst offender or at the level of it's average offering. And whether you distinguish opinion shows from news shows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hammertime Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Johnson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, hammertime said: Johnson? Funny as hell, Bezos takes off in a giant dildo then says in the subsequent press conference “thanks to my employees and customers….you paid for this”! I’m happy as fuck that this assclown doesn’t get a red cent from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Is truthfully rather pay a bit more. a guarantee against fakes and rip offs would e nice also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I was intrigued by the threat of the boogaloo and found this. https://www.adl.org/boogaloo Apparently it’s the alt right version of Antifa? Pro gun anti government outfit. First l’d heard of them. It sounds like they’re so similar to Antifa they hang out at the same places and bang the same girls. They have a cooler name though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Ibleedbrown said: I was intrigued by the threat of the boogaloo and found this. https://www.adl.org/boogaloo Apparently it’s the alt right version of Antifa? Pro gun anti government outfit. First l’d heard of them. It sounds like they’re so similar to Antifa they hang out at the same places and bang the same girls. They have a cooler name though. Blue Anon The definition of "Blue Anon" is "a loosely organized network of Democrat voters, politicians and media personalities who spread left-wing conspiracy theories." "Blue Anon adherents fervently believe that right-wing extremists are going to storm Capitol Hill any day now and "remove" lawmakers from office, hence the need for the deployment of thousands of National Guard stationed at the US Capitol." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Another thought would be this. For those of you who defend ABC News and The View ask yourselves what demographic probably gets or substantiate their political opinions from The View. (I am guessing liberal possibly African American poor white over 50...) Remember the time of day that it airs which means probably single mothers and or unemployed people watching. Think of that in terms of the late night comedy shows which were all pretty much left wing. Seniors are already in bed. But again the shows are meant for people who already share the ideology in hopes of selling them soap. Not really to change anyone's mind. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Typical Lib/View watcher: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 8:11 PM, MLD Woody said: There are definitely many parallels between far right wing and left wing media outlets. They attempt the same things to gain clicks and money. Though the right wing base seems to buy into it all more. But I still think the push to equate ABC to The Blaze is ridiculous though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said: I was intrigued by the threat of the boogaloo and found this. https://www.adl.org/boogaloo Apparently it’s the alt right version of Antifa? Pro gun anti government outfit. First l’d heard of them. It sounds like they’re so similar to Antifa they hang out at the same places and bang the same girls. They have a cooler name though. I'd take anything the ADL has to say with a very large grain of salt. They're the liberal version of Bill Donahue (the asshat with no sense of humor who is known most famously for being cut in half by Jesus Christ in South Park). They love manufactured outrage and fall victim to idiocy of 4chan memeing "white milk" and the "ok gesture" into symbols of hate. Even The Atlantic and NYT did stories on it. Gotta get them outrage clicks. On 7/21/2021 at 7:21 AM, Westside Steve said: That's true. It used to be part of my morning routine to drink coffee and watch Morning Joe until the bosses at MSNBC put the clamps on any kind of reasonable center left programming. By the way I'm not exactly sure if left or right wing Networks order there commentators to move further in One Direction or the other or if they just hire people who are already on the fringe? (And by Fringe I mean only they left or right wing of Fairly normal politics. It's not like we're going to have an actual Nazi station or a Klan station.) WSS They followed the Fox News formula to greater successes than Ailes and Murdoch could have dreamed of, with MSNBC and CNN's combined viewers eclipsing that of Fox News during the Trump administration. Outrage sells. Thankfully, there appears to be a light at the end of the tunnel now that Trump's out of the picture. CNN and MSNBC's ratings have collapsed. Independent outlets like Substack are growing in popularity and giving journalists an opportunity to report without worry of upsetting the corporate sponsors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Sure their footprint is shrinking but what there is left of it is still due to Trump hatred. It will be interesting to see what kind of anger they can work up against whoever the Republicans put up next. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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