TheClevelandSound Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Looks like he gets the last laugh as any former Brown does. Game winner against the Steelers. Thoughts on the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metcalf_FTW Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dude, I think he had like four FG's last week. Of course this happens to us. Didn't he miss an extra point for us? Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandRocks Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Looks like he gets the last laugh as any former Brown does. Game winner against the Steelers. Thoughts on the game? Thought it was xxxxed up the steelers scored 17 with a 3rd string qb but we got shut out with our 1st! Just goes to show how much shittier our recievers and running backs are. Overall I always enjoy watching those guys play each other ray needs to hang it up though he's really only good when he's blitzing now it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dude, I think he had like four FG's last week. Of course this happens to us. Didn't he miss an extra point for us? Maybe? I think Dawson had that pat blocked. I don't think he missed anything for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Looks like he gets the last laugh as any former Brown does. Game winner against the Steelers. Thoughts on the game? I would have liked to keep Cundiff. Thought on the game? I watched all of it, and by comparison the Browns D doesn't even belong in the NFL. Rodgers and Wright would be the only players we have that would have a prayer of starting for either team. Draft - 2010 it's defense first. You can pick up decent RBs and WRs in the second round. Too bad Robiskie's got to be a bust- if he still can't even make the active roster on a team as bad as the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieDawg Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I can't believe that Robo has disappointed so much. I know that many here were not that high on the guy pre draft but the thought was that the OSU / Michigan rivalry with Edwards would be a positive internal motivator - how things have turned out eh? Back to Cundiff, I don't think he missed anything for us. Dawson's leg will be fading in effectiveness going forward, I thought we might keep Cundiff. It's a sad state to know that Dawson is our scoring MVP though. I might buy his jersey to make the point on Sunday. Howie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I still think he looks like the kid that says "I see dead people". Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPusher Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Thought it was xxxxed up the steelers scored 17 with a 3rd string qb but we got shut out with our 1st! Just goes to show how much shittier our recievers and running backs are. Very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I was sorely disappointed we didn't keep Cundiff. I love Phil Dawson, but he's getting up there and doesn't have the range he once had. I was at the first Browns/Ravens game in Baltimore this season, when Cundiff was playing for us, and I knew right then how good he was. He kicked off to start the half and put the ball deep in the back of the endzone, but we got called for offsides, and they back the kick up 10 yards. So what does Cundiff do? He kicks it even FARTHER, clean out of the endzone. He's got a boot on him, and it's not like he's inaccurate, either. Just another personnel move that screwed us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl34 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 So now we're lamenting the loss of......a KICKER?! A freakin' KICKER?! ARE YOU KIDDING?! Unless he's a top 3 or 4 guy....THEY"RE ALL THE SAME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 So now we're lamenting the loss of......a KICKER?! A freakin' KICKER?! ARE YOU KIDDING?! Unless he's a top 3 or 4 guy....THEY"RE ALL THE SAME! You're stupid if you believe that. There are more game winning field goals kicked in the history of the NFL than there are game winning hail mary passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNSofSTEEL08 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 You're stupid if you believe that. There are more game winning field goals kicked in the history of the NFL than there are game winning hail mary passes. Good Kickers Underrated and Under appreciated !! You are correct TCPO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl34 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 You're stupid if you believe that. There are more game winning field goals kicked in the history of the NFL than there are game winning hail mary passes. Give me a break. Billy Cundiff is a marginal NFL kicker. He is not going to be confused with Adam Vinatieri. I think it's stupid to lament cutting Billy Cundiff. How many historic FG is he going to kick as a member of the Browns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Give me a break. Billy Cundiff is a marginal NFL kicker. He is not going to be confused with Adam Vinatieri. I think it's stupid to lament cutting Billy Cundiff. How many historic FG is he going to kick as a member of the Browns? I'll lament any personnel decision when the better man was obviously cut. Dawson couldn't make a 50 yarder if his life depended on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The amazing thing about Cundiff, is that not only did he start out as a child actor ... he was actually working at Burger King when the Browns called. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The amazing thing about Cundiff, is that not only did he start out as a child actor ... he was actually working at Burger King when the Browns called. Zombo Yeah, and Kurt Warner was bagging groceries back in the day. Cundiff looked just fine against the Steelers, and others have made the point- he has a far stronger leg than Dawson, and he's younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Give me a break. Billy Cundiff is a marginal NFL kicker. He is not going to be confused with Adam Vinatieri. I think it's stupid to lament cutting Billy Cundiff. How many historic FG is he going to kick as a member of the Browns? Furthermore, what differentiates Cundiff from Vinatieri? More than likely, they both make the same kicks, from the same distances. The only difference is that Vinatieri was put into a position to win the game by his team on multiple occasions, and succeeded on almost every attempt. His greatness lies in his clutch play. He's simply had more opportunities to excel, whereas Cundiff has not. The same goes for a lot of kickers. Had they been put in Vinatieri's shoes, chances are they could have made the kicks too. It's not like the FG's were out of normal reach, in Super Bowl XXXVI it was a 48 yard attempt, and in XXXVIII it was a 41 yard attempt. I believe 90% of the active kickers in this league would have made those kicks. Now, I'm not downplaying Vinatieri, I love him, he was my starter in three different fantasy leagues before getting injured. But don't discount a person just because they were never given the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Furthermore, what differentiates Cundiff from Vinatieri? More than likely, they both make the same kicks, from the same distances. The only difference is that Vinatieri was put into a position to win the game by his team on multiple occasions, and succeeded on almost every attempt. His greatness lies in his clutch play. He's simply had more opportunities to excel, whereas Cundiff has not. The same goes for a lot of kickers. Had they been put in Vinatieri's shoes, chances are they could have made the kicks too. It's not like the FG's were out of normal reach, in Super Bowl XXXVI it was a 48 yard attempt, and in XXXVIII it was a 41 yard attempt. I believe 90% of the active kickers in this league would have made those kicks. Now, I'm not downplaying Vinatieri, I love him, he was my starter in three different fantasy leagues before getting injured. But don't discount a person just because they were never given the opportunity. I will cut Dawson this much slack- that FG he made against the Bills in the Blizzard Game has to be one of the greatest kicks in the history of the game. If it had been in the AFC Championship, it would be immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I will cut Dawson this much slack- that FG he made against the Bills in the Blizzard Game has to be one of the greatest kicks in the history of the game. If it had been in the AFC Championship, it would be immortal. Yeah, Phil has been known to sink some pretty memorable kicks. Just like the kick in 2007 against the Ravens that bounced out, but still counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I'll lament any personnel decision when the better man was obviously cut. Dawson couldn't make a 50 yarder if his life depended on it. wrong. Phil Dawson is an absolute stud and one of (maybe) 3 kickers in the NFL that consistently makes that kick, and he'll do it from either hash and outdoors taboot. right now PD is in his prime and kicking farther than ever before. if a franchise kicker existed, he'd be it for us. we'll compare Cundiff's average to Phil Dawson's in about 8 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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