BigBrownsFan Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Good Lord... 26 years old and has a heart attack?? I remember him from Clemson, he was a beast. Never quite excelled at the pro level, but that is just shocking that a kid that young could suffer a heart attack, especially an athlete. http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/01/17/report-...kusspor00000002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
585Dawg Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 That is horrible news... makes you appreciate life a bit more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Give those kids and wife a hug.................Ya never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Good Lord... 26 years old and has a heart attack?? I remember him from Clemson, he was a beast. Never quite excelled at the pro level, but that is just shocking that a kid that young could suffer a heart attack, especially an athlete. http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/01/17/report-...kusspor00000002 Assuming it wasn't caused by some other reason, being a athlete could have actually accelerated the process. If you have some defect or condition that might not impact a "normal" person until maybe the early/mid 50's, when it isn't considered totally unusual to die of a heart attack, the constant pushing of the body could have moved the time line up by 25 or so years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Assuming it wasn't caused by some other reason, being a athlete could have actually accelerated the process. If you have some defect or condition that might not impact a "normal" person until maybe the early/mid 50's, when it isn't considered totally unusual to die of a heart attack, the constant pushing of the body could have moved the time line up by 25 or so years. Sorry Peen. There is no way conditioning pushes up someone to die this yearly. Guarantee tests come out he was using drugs or steroids. Either way RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Sorry Peen. There is no way conditioning pushes up someone to die this yearly. Guarantee tests come out he was using drugs or steroids. Either way RIP. Early coroner reports is he had a enlarged heart. I don't know if it was congenital or brought on by something else, but sorry, exercise can cause people to die before their time. People drop dead all the time shoveling their driveway. Why....too much stress on the heart. If you have a faulty ticker, you're kidding yourself if you think athletic activity and training can't bring on cardiac arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I'm thinking he probably had an unknown heart condition. Perhaps a murmer or enlarged heart. It happens to high school athletes who drop dead during training. Generally, if you keep yourself in good condition your entire life, exercise is not going to kill you. It will actually help you to live longer. Now, if your out of shape and all of the sudden start an intense exercise program in your 50's, your asking for trouble. Start out slow, get a physical before you start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Second guy I know of who have died of a enlarged heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I'm thinking he probably had an unknown heart condition. Perhaps a murmer or enlarged heart. It happens to high school athletes who drop dead during training. Generally, if you keep yourself in good condition your entire life, exercise is not going to kill you. It will actually help you to live longer. Now, if your out of shape and all of the sudden start an intense exercise program in your 50's, your asking for trouble. Start out slow, get a physical before you start. I agree. For a healthy person exercise isn't going to do harm unless you take it to some extreme. If the reports are correct and it was a enlarged heart, excessive exercise isn't the best course and could very well have moved his clock forward.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Sorry Peen. There is no way conditioning pushes up someone to die this yearly. Guarantee tests come out he was using drugs or steroids. Either way RIP. That's what I'm leaning toward, but you cannot say that conditioning doesn't cause deaths. A few kids in high school die during two-a-days every year. Some may be on steroids. But it can happen. The only reason I'm tending to agree with you is because I feel that if he really had a heart condition, I'd have expected it to kill him earlier, like in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 That's what I'm leaning toward, but you cannot say that conditioning doesn't cause deaths. A few kids in high school die during two-a-days every year. Some may be on steroids. But it can happen. The only reason I'm tending to agree with you is because I feel that if he really had a heart condition, I'd have expected it to kill him earlier, like in high school. I guarantee the Bears checked it when he was traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBulldozer28 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I guarantee the Bears checked it when he was traded. doesnt matter theres no treatment for an enlarged heart my daughter has it for athletes in college and pros at anything its a ticking time bomb because of all the work and stress they put on their bodies and heart she's a Athletic Trainer/Doctor on the staff at OSU and lived with it her whole life and she says she and other doctors have to tell that painful truth to athletes all the time it amazing when an athlete lives past 45-50 with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanpot Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Guarantee tests come out he was using drugs or steroids. Either way RIP. I'm not saying you're wrong, but how do you "guarantee" something like that? Many young athletes have died from an enlarged heart. Are you suggesting (guaranteeing) that they all used drugs or steroids? Enlarged heart linked to sudden death Experts call for improved screening among young sports players The Associated Press updated 1:28 p.m. ET, Tues., Nov . 6, 2007 NEW YORK - Having an enlarged heart is the biggest cause of sudden death among young athletes, and some experts say more and better screening is needed. Too often, heart problems that can cause an irregular heartbeat and sudden death are missed because there isn't enough uniform screening of athletes, said Dr. Lori Mosca, director of preventive cardiology at New York-Presbyterian Hospital. Mosca spoke from an American Heart Association meeting in Florida where cardiologists have been talking about the weekend death of Ryan Shay. The 28-year-old runner was competing in New York in the men's marathon Olympic trials when he died suddenly on Saturday. According to his father, Shay had an enlarged heart that was first diagnosed when he was 14. But whether that contributed to his death isn't known. Autopsy results are expected later. "It's hard on all of us when something like this happens to a person who is doing all the right things as far as we can tell," said Mosca, a marathon runner herself. "We have to use this as an example to try to prevent future problems." About 125 athletes under 35 involved in organized sports die of sudden death in the United States each year, said Dr. Barry J. Maron of the Minneapolis Heart Institute Foundation. The institute tracks such deaths in a national registry. An analysis of 387 cases from the registry showed the vast majority were cardiac-related. About a quarter involved a condition called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, which causes an enlarged heart. About 20 percent were from a blow to the chest, such as being hit by a bat or ball. Maron said many of the cardiac diseases that can lead to sudden death can be spotted through screening. "It's not perfect. Athletes with certain abnormalities can slip through that process," said Maron, who participated in a discussion of the issue at the heart group's meeting on Monday. Maron helped write heart association guidelines that help doctors screen athletes for sudden death. The process includes questions that focus on spotting potential heart problems through a personal and family medical history and a physical exam. An enlarged heart or thickened heart doesn't always preclude someone from participating in sports, Mosca said. "There's a spectrum of what doctors might recommend," said Mosca. While the inherited condition is mostly found in the young, other heart problems can cause sudden death in those over 35. Mosca said sedentary men over 40 and women over 50 should be screened before starting a vigorous exercise program. "Even with an evaluation, there's no guarantee that you can prevent sudden death," she said. "What ultimately happens is a balancing of the risk of participating in sports against the benefits. That's true for everyone." Elite athletes like Shay can have a larger than normal heart from strenuous exercise without causing any problem. While so-called "athlete's heart" thickens the heart muscle overall, hypertrophic cardiomyopathy creates thickening in one part of the heart and makes it harder to pump blood out to the body. One in 500 people have the disorder; some people have no symptoms. "Sometimes it can be difficult to distinguish between these two conditions — one being benign and one being potentially lethal," said Mosca. Shay had had medical tests last spring in Flagstaff, Ariz., where he trained, and was cleared for running, according to his father, Joe Shay. He said his son hadn't complained of any problems. Shay collapsed about 5 1/2 miles into the race Saturday in New York's Central Park. Ellen Borakove, spokeswoman for the city medical examiner's office, which did an autopsy, said doctors wanted to take a closer look at Shay's heart tissue before determining the cause of death. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21654220 Beanpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I have an enlarged heart. I found out my first week of Coastal Carolina football camp. I was told that with medication, I would be able to continue playing football indefinitely. Without medication, I was told I would have something like a 50% increased chance of heart failure. It seems like Gaines wasn't aware of his condition, and that ultimately did him in. It's scary how these things can fly under the radar. The only reason I even thought of getting my heart checked out is because I have slightly higher blood pressure than normal. I would think the NFL would have some sort of policy regarding the testing for enlarged hearts. They definitely should think about it. Rest in Peace, Gaines Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosemitejam Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 may find diagnois of dilated cardiomyopathy..a thickening of the left ventricular wall resuling in cardiac dysryhthmias(sp)...caused by virus......kills 10's of thousands yearly in this country.....we all gotta go sometime..what doesn't kill you only delays the inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ_Browns Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Rest in peace, Gaines Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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