bigbambo

I take it by the "no reply" my reasoning is understood.............I'm not here for taking sides...it's just nice to talk about and see if there is something that I'm missing from the other side?   I just don't get it.....it's absurd to me.....I golf with 3 dems and all they do is get mad.......so, you can't talk to them about politics.   It's their rule because they get made right now!   When Trump was Pres...all they did was stand tall on RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA.  You may have discovered that most people eager to talk believe what they say...those that worm ,are worms, to a degree.  

36 minutes ago, Vambo said:

 he's not like some of the leftest that name calling is their only response.

I can play on any court but recently found out that may not be the case for some rock chuckers.......you get banned and called a douchebag for it..lol

43 minutes ago, Vambo said:

Big, WSS is a good person if you debate him with respect he will in return he's not like some of the leftest that name calling is their only response.

I'm not doubting you one bit and thank you for offering peace...and I'm all for that.. but l will lay out the history....for the record

WSS called all the unvaccinated "pussies".......I explain a different point of view and calling us/them  "pussies" is uncalled for.  It's not an easy call either way...for any AMERICAN!

The grown up, WSS, started his attack and dropped his "pussy" rants on my posts...how dare I question him......I let it go and gave him "likes and stuff" for good post but he continued......would you call this a debate with respect?...well, I have horns too!

I don't agree with him one iota on the vax issue and he knows he's wrong.......just hides it by avoiding points that he has no rational explanation for....."that's not my point" was the answer to your great question(near the end of page 4). 

6 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Willing? Sorry my friend it's not up to me, it's not up to you. I don't like the mandate, I don't think it's constitutional. I just suggested a way for actual essential workers to get back on the job without taking a shot. Not that anybody is going to take that advice.

WSS

How raw does your belly get, my friend? 

2 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Eat me. The grown-ups are trying to talk.

You're just playing footsy.......like it appears you've done your whole life.   

negative test every two or three days would take minutes 

Those are my minutes!

3 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Not my point. My point is simply a workaround because these assholes are going to impose the stupid mandate regardless of what's right wrong effective constitutional or anything else.

WSS

 

So if it is stupid......we should get tested just because the farmer says so........baaaaa......baaaaaa.

You have no fucking point.....like most of your stupid shit!

WHY? 

This is the lifeboat list......real confidence builder...

7 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Like every other post the topic Strays all over the place. I can't get 100% on board with a mandate even though I think most of the people refusing to get them are just doing so to be a pain in the ass.

Absolutely no reason that people; cops firefighters and nurses Etc couldn't get a test every two or three days. Which would avoid the whole problem. But nobody wants to avoid the problem everybody wants it to be a political cudgel

WSS

Please identify the problem........I wasn't aware of a problem..

Oh yeah, nothing better to do but be a pain in the ass...........what was that problem again?

how did ya vote for this nipple pinching, hair sniffing, touchy feely and kissing perv into the Presidency of the U.S.A.   You need to take a good look at yourself cause somethings wrong.

Better check their file for the record...lol

Why would Newsom and the dem machine cover this up?.......Got the jab and mocked effects then flexed his muscles........then hid like the rat he is with droop-face....canceled his spot on the "Shit and Fart" tour.....this is as transparent as they get.......WHY?

https://noqreport.com/2021/11/08/gavin-newsom-had-major-adverse-reaction-to-moderna-booster-shot-sources/

2 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Actually Aaron Rodgers can blow me. I'd have had a lot more respect if he'd just said kiss my ass I'm not taking the shot because im a free American. Instead he tried to spin it with some sort of bulshit. And if you are too scared to take the risk but go out on the football field every week where the risk of brain damage or any other permanent injury exists every time the ball is snapped.....

WSS

He probably could with a pair of tweezers and his small lips.  He risks all you stated and prepared his whole life to achieve it ......oh you'ld respect him for getting involved with the stupid fucks that got duped into taking this goo bashing him endlessly.   If he would not have tested positive no one would know.  You think these studs push past people to get this gunk that does nothing?  Brady?  no way

7 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

This isn't just "questioning the results". It's fanning the flames to keep people angry. "bird bird is a communist" isn't someone thoughtfully disagreeing with the covid vaccine for children. And no, this thread wasn't started based on data or science. It was started to highlight the point I was making, that some are just trying to rile up their base. 

I do understand the data you posted and I did look at. I'm choosing to understand your "why" first, not the "what". 

So you think the AAP is knowingly putting children in more danger for the overall good of the population (namely those more at risk)?

I'll try to find some data later, or at least look through your source data more. won't be able to find what I'd be looking for as easily as you given your background. II'd have to think some exists given the medical recommendations made by these groups. 

You got him shook up now......sounds just like Brandon......

keep assuming you fool.....

4 minutes ago, VaporTrail said:

Woody, this whole thread is no different than what you're complaining about. It's about slam dunking on those who have the audacity to question the conclusions that the medical experts are presenting. I disagree with the CDC and AAP's recommendations because they're downplaying the available data that would give people pause to get the vaccination. Their goals are at the population level, and that goal is herd immunity. As I've said in other threads, I think that it's a bad idea to increase risk of children to decrease risk of the old and fat. This is somehow a controversial viewpoint. You've demonstrated that your thread is not about data or science - you are completely capable of understanding the data I've presented, so is the CDC, so is the AAP, but they simply minimize what I've shown because it makes herd immunity tougher to attain. I'd be happy to see what data shows why my argument is wrong instead of an appeal to authority.

Told ya before.....you can't be talking this trash here...ya know they're smarter than you..  

These vax crazies can't justify why the Senators, their staff and the postal workers are exempt? 

It's been asked here before and they gloss over it like the sheep they are!  I think it deserves an explanation before moving one inch forward

Maybe they'll find that these vaccines can be useful to put worms back into cows cause they appear next to worthless for covid ....got my 10th booster nov 2

just in time for Turkey Day...... Terry, get your ticket for the next Travis Scott concert...get there early

maybe check the cost history of many things but gas would be a simple one

20 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

 you constantly flatter yourself for no apparent reason. You post stupid stuff, we read it, we respond, woodpecker. You don't live in anyone's head.

Not even his own 

Perhaps you wish you did, because you haven't cleaned up your dirty bird nest for a long time, if ever.

We put a 1/4 tbsp of sevin in each Purple Martin nest to kill the mites and in woody's case, blow fly larvae

Which makes sense, since your posts are full of bird poop.

And, not to be a dick, but I'd absolutely want some data to back up your point. 

have a nice day pecking.

with that pecker square in the middle of your face

 

 

6 hours ago, Vambo said:

To these morons they have...............   Did you ever think the day would come where middle class folks would be happy about other middle class being fired?  Just when the middle class needed to prove we will and should stand together......dickweeds sell out for nothing....the unvaxxed can't harm you you fucking thick as a brick tools

29 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

It's also easy for you to just say "anyone that believes the other side is a deadbeat", which is pretty dumb. But looking at an issue through the eyes of someone else doesn't seem to be a conservative strong suit.

It's also easy for you to just say "anyone that believes the other side is a Trump cultist", which is even dumber. But just looking at an issue doesn't seem to be a liberal strong suit.   

Back to Hillabillary.........................

12 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said:

Here’s my spin on all this. I’m not really a “life is precious” kinda guy. The greater whole of life is important, but individual lives? Not so much. When you get right down to it, we’re all replaceable. 

This is why l like the idea of getting half the population vaccinated, and the other half not vaccinated. That way, if the vaccine truly is some sort of time released death serum and everyone who gets it keels over dead, at least half the population will survive.

And if the flipside is true where the only people who survive the next killer covid variant are the ones who did get vaccinated, and all the unvaccinated keel over and die, well that works too. 

It’s kinda like the Thanos plan. I figure the survivors will be bummed out for a while, but once they get over it life will be so much nicer. Real estate will be cheap and plentiful. Same with food. Traffic won’t be such a drag. Life will be simpler. 

I'm digging out the wmms t-shirts, clogs, old spice and getting a shag haircut.........gunna need some stud servicing for the good of the country.....ya think my wife will buy it

Some humans are the Guinea Pigs....the Beagles....the Monkeys of the demonic vaccine experiment

2 hours ago, Vambo said:

What a plan......I'ld vote for him after that great speech.........got goose bumps...things are movin on the board...Build Back Better........Lets go Brandon yeehaw.......................fix it you %7%$$$$

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

No you're right, it seems like there are bits and pieces of data everywhere for individual points (worse if you're  older, worse if you're overweight, etc.) but no mass study looking at "risk" (hospitalizations, deaths, etc) for vaccinated and unvaccinated patients that are controlled for BMI (or something like that). Then you'd have some kind of study to look at your original point, that the vaccine only reduces risk in those that are already at a higher risk due to comorbidities. 

Also, I know BMI is a simple but flawed  metric. It doesn't work as well for the "fringe" heights (really short, really tall). Mathematically it doesn't work as well. And then obviously the fact it is just weight, not fat, so a muscular person could be considered "overweight", but given the standard American that isn't coming up much I'd have to think...

 

That is a good point in your last paragraph. That if your BMI is that low, especially at a younger age, there is probably some underlying condition already. 

Did I fool you....keep acting because now you think you may not be the smartest in the room.........chokin is what I would call it.........I was way smarter than my dad but I remember him saying.....the smartest man in the room depends solely on your condition.....your room would need to be MT for all conditions

5 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

I listed over two hundred GOOD/GREAT THINGS PRES TRUMP DID FOR AMERICA. never said he was perfect. But look at the list.

NOW, admit you can not name ONE thing that your ObaMao commie nor your hidin warped minden biden have ever done good/great for America.

You can't name one, you're done.

You can't even try to criticize your biden  - and he is screwing up our country with his corruption and incompetence.

Yep. You're done.

 

Follow the science......???????   they can't even follow let alone, lead

Have you read the tax code............do you think it is likely that anyone in America can beat them?    watch what you say 

Statutes. There's the literal statutes that Congress has passed (Title 26 of the U.S. Code). The Government Printing Office sells it spread over two volumes, and according to them, book one is 1,404 pages and book two is 1,248 pages, for a total of 2,652 pages.

That's exactly what my list states too........now I'm reconsidering the whole list....dang