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  1. Vaccination mandate

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    21 minutes ago, VaporTrail said:

    I'm not sure that there is data out there specifically to support or detract from that point. I did find this study from the English government that touches on it. 

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf#page=14

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    This data was collected over 3 weeks. It demonstrates that you're more likely to be hospitalized for at least one night among all age groups if you're unvaccinated. It demonstrates that you are considerably more likely to die if you are over the age of 30 and unvaccinated, compared to vaccinated people of the same age group. However, it does not control for obesity, which I'm guessing would reduce that factor in the younger age groups. I think the hospitalizations with just a 1-night stay is way too broad of a population - we call those folks bed and breakfast guests, and a lot of the time, they really don't need to be admitted. 

    I think the questions that you're asking are fair, but I just don't know that the data we are looking for has been compiled yet. 

    Malnutrition is the common factor in anyone that frail. Adults with BMI < 18.5 look like skeletons. The studies do not control for why people are that skinny - you'll see a lot of anorexia/bulimia in younger patients, cancers can appear at any stage of life, they're probably most common when really old and really young, or you could have some sort of neurological disease resulting in muscle weakness and atrophy. If your BMI is that low, then you are probably seriously ill and likely to get knocked out by a cold. 

    A very nice way of saying.......what is this whacko talking about?   

    On 11/5/2021 at 11:13 AM, MLD Woody said:

    I mean, are we really calling anything over 50 as "elderly"?

    And, not to be a dick, but I'd absolutely want some data to back up your point. 

    From this one question......we should have understood all of this...

    Thank you for that response. The data is definitely very clear. I realize I may not have been clear in my post though. I wasn't questioning the fact that old and/or overweight people have a higher risk from COVID. I think that is clear for pretty much most illnesses. I was directing that comment at your statement that the vaccine only reduces the risk from COVID for those that already have comorbidities like being overweight. If you're already at a higher risk I would imagine the vaccine can reduce your risk more, which just intuitively makes sense. There is more risk for it to reduce in the first place. I'm saying I question that the vaccine only reduces risk in those cases. (Though, with that being said, I wonder what % of the population has at least one thing considered a comorbidity).

    I can see you voting for the double bubble of biden/harris. Does your father-in-law own the company you space for?

  2. Vaccination mandate

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    28 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

    Thank you for that response. The data is definitely very clear. I realize I may not have been clear in my post though. I wasn't questioning the fact that old and/or overweight people have a higher risk from COVID. I think that is clear for pretty much most illnesses. I was directing that comment at your statement that the vaccine only reduces the risk from COVID for those that already have comorbidities like being overweight. If you're already at a higher risk I would imagine the vaccine can reduce your risk more, which just intuitively makes sense. There is more risk for it to reduce in the first place. I'm saying I question that the vaccine only reduces risk in those cases. (Though, with that being said, I wonder what % of the population has at least one thing considered a comorbidity).

    Also, what do you think the spike for risk is for this with a very low BMI? At that point is someone just malnutrioned? I thought it would just be for frail old people but the risk is actually higher in the under 65 group. I'd have to imagine that is just some sample size abnormality or something. 

     

     

    My comment around 50 year olds wasn't to disagree that people start feeling the effects of age by then. My comment was in regards to your post, where you kind of came off as "Well, they're dying by they're old, not much to worry about". But then gave 50 as the "elderly" turning point. That just seemed like a low age to  say "oh well, father time, etc etc".

    I mean, are we really calling anything over 50 as "elderly"?

    Who asked this^^^^^^^^^^^^oh, we didn't understand...oh my sides hurt!

     

    Blah Blah Blah...clear as mud.....lol........stay in your lane....bust me for not understanding then grovel with the doc that can't understand your dumb ass either

    Stick to faking .....it wears so well on you

    39 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

    You completely misses my point, but you've come out of the gate here fighting to be the dumbest poster. And given others that post in this board, that's certainly saying something. You're certainly not putting any of your beliefs in a good light. 

    P.S.   If you need new material, pm me

  3. Vaccination mandate

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    23 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

    I mean, are we really calling anything over 50 as "elderly"?

    And, not to be a dick, but I'd absolutely want some data to back up your point. 

    This guy swallows and defends the most unbelievable stuff that spews from the bellicose left............but wants data to back up people over 50 are on a health decline.  :lol:.   lots of moving parts, ya know 

    That's not being a dick......

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  4. 87,000 New IRS Agents......

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    You want to shut people up.......threaten them with the IRS to enter their life........dims will pay for this bill by flopping the life of every adversary from top to bottom

    I can hear it now:

    I'm getting audited for the 5th time......yee haaaw.......after the 1st audit, I wish the would call the rest "booster audits"......makes me feel all fuzzy inside! 

  6. Vaccination mandate

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    I FOLLOW THE SCIENCE.........The CDC is the only one out of 100 studies that claims the vaccinated are protected better than natural immunity ........you're following something but it's not science.........think hard about that.......maybe you're following an ass, can't you smell it?

    https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

    Never thought I would see the day grown men are giddy over getting an unknown juicer or two or three or four................ 

  8. Vaccination mandate

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    45 minutes ago, VaporTrail said:

    The worst symptoms include respiratory failure requiring intubation and an ICU stay. If you are vaccinated, your risk of those is only lowered if you have the comorbidities like obesity and hypertension and diabetes and being elderly. The vaccine should be recommended to those at risk, like the flu and pneumonia vaccines, we are beyond the point of reaching herd immunity, and with the mutability of the virus it's essentially going to be endemic from here on out. I don't have numbers to support the statement I'm about to make, but of the 22% of COVID patients who die from the virus that aren't obese, I would wager at least 15-18 of those percentage points are people over 50. So when I hear "most of the deaths are unvaccinated," it really is not cause for alarm because the ones who are dying are still the unhealthy and the elderly. 

    You better say the unvaccinated are killin everyone or these fools will hound you to the end...........I did like this statement.... 

    Lifestyle changes are what we've been pushing for since I was a medical student, and we're lucky if 1 in 10 patients listen to us. You're a really good and persuasive clinician if you can get that number to 1 in 5."

    I'll bet the healthcare field has more fat-asses then any other profession (if you don't count welfare as a profession). 

     

     

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  9. GOP clinches win over McAuliffe as Virginia rejects Biden agenda

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    6 hours ago, Neo said:

    So we can agree that Youngkin was elected illegitimately and McAuliffe was the rightful winner. Glad to hear 😁

    I'ld bet you are A.O.C's personal private detective!   

    Now let me try to understand your logic

    Republicans question the validity of the vote casts after states ignored their constitution and changed many rules.

    Then the results show a record 81 million people voted for a pedophile pants pooper

    So now I'll leap over the moon and and really stump-um...that means McAweful wins if we are going to be like the rebub's.....good grief, just hum to yourself

    P.S.   Hillabillary is calling foul to this very day!!!!!!!   Now sit back and enjoy the biggest blunder in American History.......maybe in 100 years they will build a memorial with all that voted for this turnip on it.......go find your name 

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