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So a team didn't get moved from Cleveland to Baltimore? Ok. From 96 until the start of the 99 season Cleveland didn't have a football team. Why? it was taken away from us. Yes we still got to keep our name and records, but you're ignorant if you don't think a football team (that was known as the browns) was taken away from Cleveland and moved to Baltimore. Lastly what were the Baltimore ravens before they got to Baltimore? Oh that's right they were formerly known as the Browns. Therefore the ravens are the former Browns. Is Joe Haden a former Brown? How about Joe Thomas? Is Jarvis Landry a former Dolphin? OBJ a former Giant? Hunt a former Chief? The answer to all is yes. Where is the line "idjit"?

I agree. If the ravens weren't the former browns then I could probably get on board with bills over ravens. However that's not the case and our team was taken away and moved to Baltimore so I want to play and beat them twice a year.

Bobpound! Welcome back

You can't hit them in the knee either. The hit zone on a qb is literally like strike zone tip of knee cap to the nipples

Tour i disagreed in the tavern with you at the time and thought we were playing a cover 3 on the rogers td catch but I rewatched it and you were correct (of course you were), it was man. I only saw Mitchell's drop (which looked like zone but was just sonewhat poor coverage) and the other two linebackers dropped into zones so I thought it was zone. However upon rewatching Sendejo was definitely manned up on the other eligible receiver in the slot on other side. Redwine was playing a single high cover 1 and taki dropped into a zone because his man (the rb) stayed in to block. Long story short here i apologize for doubting you lol. The second one Wilson did pretty much everything right but mistime his jump which is odd simply because the ball skills he exhibited in the preseason of his rookie year would have lead me to believe he had really good ball skills. However that whole preseason now appears to be fools gold regarding Wilson.

First I wouldn't technically call it a crap play call because we picked up the first with it. Secondly and more importantly I was talking with tour in the tavern about this play and it didn't appear it was supposed to be a baker bootleg. It looked as if it was a busted play and hunt ran the wrong way. Baker quickly realized it and just got as many yards as possible.

I understand people being wary of the injuries when talking about ward but its blown a little out of proportion in my opinion. He's has played and started in 35 out of a possible 42 games. Myles Garrett missed 6 in his first year and then a 6 game suspension on top of that his 3rd year means even if ward doesn't play a game the rest of the year he will have the same amount of games played through his first 3 years than Garrett did. No you didn't bring up vernon I did. As in the salary cap is only going to go up and if we can afford to pay olivier vernon 15 mil a year over the past two years id certainly hope we could and would pay an elite corner around the same amount. Also that is coming off the books as he is a free agent. I'm not saying this simply because he had a good game yesterday. He is an elite cornerback and those don't just grow on trees. He was pro bowl level his rookie year, allowed the lowest completion percentage when thrown at last year and is playing just as well this year. He's also extremely smart as well. Everyone knows on the Taki Taki pick 6 Ward got the pressure on Wentz that forced a bad throw but what most don't know is that was not a designed corner blitz called by woods. Ward noticed the man he was assigned to cover had blocked down. That meant he was not going out for a pass. “So I added on and blitzed,” said Ward. “Sione made a great play.” He recognized it instantly and made a decision that greatly benefited us. In another game earlier this season where his man also blocked down Ward stayed 3 yards off the line, timed a pass perfectly, jumped and deflected it so another browns player could intercept it in the endzone. Two very similar scenarios and Ward made a great decision in both to play a huge part in causing a turnover.

I agree and if he's getting the type of payday then he is playing extremely well. So are you saying that's too expensive for him? Keeping in mind we're paying Vernon 15 million a year right now

When did he almost fumble? How do you tell if someone almost fumbles other than the obvious thing of it coming loose but regaining control before it hits the ground.

So are you assuming he's going to command to much money?

This is the post I was thinking of in the tavern today. Why are you not giving ward a 2nd contract? If he gets injured a few more times than I can see it but the way he is playing how can you say now you don't want to give him a second contract if he stays healthy. He has played at an all pro level his whole career. Only issue has been injuries. Only thing I can think of is you think he will require too much money but you never know. I think he's worth whatever the going rate is for top 10 corner. Plus he's an Akron kid he may give a hometown discount like hunt has.

Takk is an end though

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An unnamed player has tested positive and they have closed the facility. They're having all meetings remotely. It's not expected to affect the game Sunday vs the Texans but after contact tracing who knows what will happen. The nfl needs to add an 18th week at a minimum.

Yeah ogbah would be nice on our team right now but honestly a bigger need for the team right now is the guy we traded for but didn't resign. I would much rather have Eric Murray at free safety right now than still have ogbah and Andrew Sendejo at free safety

Unsympathetic explained it pretty well. That 38 million in cap is rollover cap space and is typically saved to resign the good young players you have on your team. Do some research on "rollover cap" in the nfl. It may help you to better understand.

I would really like Grady Jarrett and I know these 3 guys don't fit your over 30 but maybe contract wise they would want to get rid of deion Jones or Dante fowler Jr. My ideal pickup from this roster though if he were available would be the safety Keanu Neal. He is on last year of his deal and maybe they don't know if they can resign him so would trade him for a decent price. One can dream. Again I know those 3 don't typically fit fire sale players but it sure would be nice lol.

I speculated yesterday in the tavern after seeing the reverse angle that OBJ tore the ACL in his left knee as it appeared to "pop". It has come out today that he is out for the season and tore his ACL. Hoping for a full speedy recovery for OBJ

And..... not bad stats. Again saving 20 plus yards in punts bouncing is huge. Kick returns are so dependent on blocking. Securing the ball safely in the best field position possible is the main goal of both and he has done fine at that in both in the 3-4 games he's been a returner for us. Those stats in previous post were prior to today. After today he is currently 12th in league in avg return per kickoff and 5th in kick return yards

No I know you didn't I'm referring to the tavern where everyone always says it. He's been our returner for 3 games I believe. Our defense rarely forces punts so he doesn't get a chance get often there and kickoffs in the nfl are rarely returned because people can just kick through end zone. The one thing he has done well on the few punts he has returned is he minimizes roll distance and has fielded bouncing punts cleanly saving a lot of yards in field position. I specifically remember him doing so on two punts that I can recall. Edit I looked up his return stats he only has 4 punt returns for 24 yards (note two of those were just saving field position on bouncing balls) with a long of 13. He has fair caught 3 punts. He has 12 kick returns for 261 yards (avg 22 yards) with a long of 32. No fumbles or muff punts.

I don't get why people say he is so slow. He ran a 4.48 40 preparing for draft. He was such a great pick in the 6th round. Low risk with a ton of potential at wr. at a minimum he has plenty of return experience which is of value in the later rounds

Thank you for the updated message in the tavern. I don't think it necessarily stopped everyone but it was better. Also yeah I don't get the obj hate. We aren't going to be trade him for much at this point as that left knee injury looked bad.

DPJ!!!! Woody where you at? Gipper don't call him whatever shit nickname you have for him

As long as we don't have the chargers doctors giving him his cortisone shot he'll be good (sorry tyrod). I'm confident in Keenum though if we have to go to him

With that o line burrow doesn't have time to go downfield. It's not that he can't or won't that awful catch call by the official on the first play of the game was a beautiful ball. It's simply the fact that's what the Browns were giving him (5-7 yard passes middle of the field) and he doesn't have the time to go down the field with the protection he has. What I was impressed with was he didn't seem confused by any of the coverage. Some of his throws were wow this kid is legit type throws. Most impressively to me was he kept taking those shots but kept standing tall and strong in the pocket. I mean shit I thought porter Gustin killed him on the myles strip sack.