lodilobo

Yeah....you would think at that age, they would be acquiring a little more sense.

The difference, to me is the HC. I'm hoping Kitchens will learn from his mistakes, and become a good coach. We need stability at HC before we can become a good team.

Sorry....I no longer have the time or patience to even deal with some of these Millenials who like to talk down to you, when they know nothing. I'm all about difference of opinion and can always see the other side of an argument, but sometimes it's better not to waste your time. My original post was somewhat of an exaggeration, designed to vent a little and get reactions. That's my style. I really don't much give a crap anymore if some don't like it. I guess I'm just a cranky old bastard.

Yeah..right. I'm going to let some idiot dictate to me what to do on Sundays. I'm not mad at anyone. I suggest you continue to watch...and watch closely. Maybe you can learn something about the game.

Nobody said to fire Kitchens. You obviously have a comprehension disability. Which game was close? It sure as hell wasn't this game after the 3rd quarter.

Not to mention....when players are cussing at referees, whenever there is a questionable penalty, they are always going to call it.

Oh....so, tell me you expected the Titans to come in here and beat our asses? You are full of crap. It's not just the media. When the Browns are favored by 5.5 points, that tells me something. Bookies are usually right, with a few exceptions. The media is one thing, but there was nothing to indicate this team would be so undisciplined. Nothing positive from the 2nd half of last season carried over. They fell right back into the same crap we've seen for years. If you didn't see that in the 4th quarter against the Titans, you need to open your eyes. I do not want a coaching change for many years, so hopefully Kitchens will learn how to become a HC. We can't keep firing head coaches. We've already proven that does not work.

This wasn't just a loss. This was the first impression of the 2019 Cleveland Browns. You know...the new media darlings with all the talent in the world. The new coach, promoted from rb coach, skipping over several steps to become the new HC of the new, improved, playoffs bound Browns. The changing of the losing culture,..blah, blah, blah. We played better with much less talent last season. I don't blame the offense that much. Mayfield was bringing the team back until the 75 yard TD by the Titans. That was the final nail in the coffin. Where was the defense on that play? No where near the action...that's for sure. Buying into the hype of having a winning season for once? Yeah...I'm guilty. Damn I'm gullible!

That's where I'm at....full blown panic mode. Our team has been over hyped since last season. After watching that huge implosion yesterday, I can only speculate why this looks so bad. I didn't think we had excessive penalties in preseason. I put most of the blame on Freddie Kitchens. When a team of very good players looks like that, the HC is responsible. I really wanted Greg Williams to be retained as the new HC for this season. Freddie seems like a good guy, with a lot of potential, but to see the players respond this way...well, I have my doubts about him as a good head coach. I know it's only one game, but it was disgusting. Dorsey needs to find a quality LT and put together an o line. If not, Mayfield will never make it to the bye week.

Tim Couch was average or slightly better, but he couldn't reach his potential here. He came in with a lot of fire, jumping up to fight, when he took a hit. That didn't last long, though...getting beaten up, constantly with no protection from the line....no one to stand up for him when he took a cheap shot. I really like Couch, but as a passer, he didn't have a strong arm. He could never hit a receiver in stride. They would always have to wait for the ball to get there.

By far the dumbest fans of all...including Steelers and Ravens. I participated on their board a few months ago, and defended the Browns, so they banned me for life. I'm heart broken.

Mahomes is great....no doubt. I'm happy for KC. I'm also thrilled with Mayfield, and wouldn't trade him for Mahomes or anybody else right now. I don'^t much care for, losers from KC coming here and talking crap. They haven't won anything yet and are going to lose big to the Rams this week....and their fans suck.

It doesn't really take much to "astonish" a bunch of morons. Is the Chefs board completely dead, so you have to search here for a mention of your team?.....oh..you probably don't have a message board.

I don't have a Stan story, but I've been on this board forever, and also the old AOL board. I don't post a lot, but check the board every day. I've had a few discussions with Stan, and he helped me work out a problem with signing in a couple years ago. I appreciate what Stan did to create a place to come and discuss our team. Like I said...I never met him personally, but after reading all this stuff, I have no doubt he was a great guy. He will be missed.