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I don't want to see him get fired in mid season either. I really would like to keep him here for at least 3 seasons, hoping he will learn from his mistakes. I just haven't seen any indication that he will become an adequate HC, but it really is too soon, I guess. It's just a shame to waste all the talent with a coach who can't use it. I'm not so sure he was " hand picked" by Dorsey. Dorsey doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to stake his reputation on a RB coach becoming a good HC.

I questioned the decision to make Kitchens the HC, but thought it might work out. He might turn into a decent HC at some point, but he has a lot to learn and he doesn't appear to be a quick learner. He may not be the only problem with this team right now, but he is definitely the biggest problem. My choice would have been to keep Greg Williams as HC for a couple seasons at least, to see how things worked. Dorsey, obviously did not think Williams was the best choice. ...probably due to his abrasive personality. I guess they figured we've already seen enough arguing / fighting within. I hate to see another coaching change so quick, but what other choice do we have? He's killing the season.

Why would a play like that be called under those circumstances??...STUPIDITY.

There is really one way to beat the Ratbirds. Lamar Jackson is a great running back playing qb. His qg rating yesterday was in the 60's....he was under 50% completions.But, it doesn't matter how you move the ball. Winning is the most important stat. He is really RG3, but more elusive. If you can't stop him, you have to beat them in a shoot out. Russel Wilson is just the guy to do that, normally, but he was having a bad day yesterday. Still...the Ratbirds played a very good game, travelling to Seattle. Their defense stepped up when it needed to. Waiting in the wings for Lamar Jackson, is Belichik. If Jackson piles up yards against N.E. then we have to admit he is something special.

You're right about some decent Ravens fans. This guy is just an idiot no matter who he roots for. No reason to ban him. He obviously isn't intelligent enough to make any good points on any subject. He's kind of a distraction over here. He's harmless...way too stupid to have a conversation with.

Have a Steelers fan read this to you and help you understand. YOUR TEAM HAS NOT BEATEN A TEAM WITH MORE WINS THAN LOSSES. That means that your team sucks. Teams play each other to determine which team is better. Our team beat your team. Can you figure out what that means? If not, ask the Steelers fan who is helping you.

Maybe if you losers ever play a team over .500, you can come back and let me know how it worked out. I think we both know how it will end.

Well...we kicked your asses and who the hell have you beat?...Nobody with more than one win. So really...I'm the one LMAO!

I don't think you see the big picture here. The Browns have more than enough talent, with the exception of the o line, which is pretty damn important. Baker is not a bust. Anyone who watches the games closely can see how good he is, and will be if the HC ever gets his head out of his ass. We have major problems that keep us from winning against really good teams. Obviously Kitchens is in way over his head, and it's killing us. I will never understand why he is the HC. Greg Williams had the personality to motivate this team, but I understand why Dorsey didn't want to deal with his abrasive style. The o line is really bad, and that makes it impossible to come back when we are behind in a game. The other thing is the officiating. I know....good teams overcome bad calls. Yesterday was as bad as I've ever seen it. It seriously make me consider why some of these refs take every opportunity to screw us. They call P.I. that clearly is nowhere to be seen, and Kitchens is too busy doing whatever, to even notice it, so he doesn't challenge. Some of these refs have a personal agenda to keep the Browns from winning, or at least make it damn difficult. We can overcome that, once we execute properly. These players are not happy with the situation, and the frustration shows. They will come out and beat New England after the bye, and I still see a 9 or 10 win season.

This is made up crap by Sherman. There's a video of Mayfield shaking his hand.

The o line is crap, and was totally dominated by SF. Kitchens was out coached...Mayfield was terrible, and the defense sucked. Other than that, we played ok.

Yeah....the subject got a little old after about 15 years.

I'm pretty sure that you know a little bit about this subject, so you could be right about the law / lease blocking the name being transferred to Baltimore, but I vividly remember the NFL commissioner being very quick to add an expansion team in Cleveland to replace the old team. Don't make me start looking for details to prove this. We both know it happened. Where you and I have always disagreed, is the fact that the team actually moved. I know you will say they didn't, because we retained the history, name, colors, etc., but our team was gone and was relocated to Baltimore. Also....I did not follow closely, the move of the Colts from Baltimore, but I recently read that there was a law in place to block that move, but Irsay simply disregarded it. It's also a fact that the few years prior to that move, the Colts fans were not filling their stadium. Sure, Irsay screwed the fans and the city, but why didn't the NFL award them an expansion team in a reasonable amount of time? My guess is because the NFL is all about the bottom line profit, and because the fans had not been showing up in recent years, they just said..screw them.

Let me enlighten you with facts regarding the Browns moving to Baltimore, because either you are too stupid to comprehend what transpired, or you only listen to your fellow Ratbirds fans. Your team came within an eyelash of being the"Browns". When Modell took the deal, he fully intended to be the owner of the Baltimore Browns. The fans and officials of the city of Cleveland wouldn't let that happen, and fought to keep the rights to the name in Cleveland. After the smoke cleared, we were promised a new NFL franchise immediately. In contrast, when your Colts left town, you got nothing. Johnny Unitas' history is now with Indy....not Baltimore. You and your fellow fans obviously didn't give a crap, because your stadium was empty before a move was ever considered by Irsay. In fact, that's no doubt why he left. You should love Cleveland, because the truth of the matter is...if it wasn't for Art Modell having financial problems, you still would be without a team. You went 12 years, and the NFL couldn't see any good reason to put a franchise in Baltimore. It must have sucked....not being relevant enough to even be considered for an expansion franchise. So, you settled for another city's team that was relocated from one of the greatest NFL franchises. That's why you hate the Cleveland Browns...nothing more than pure jealousy.

If you ever go to the the Bengals board, you should probably know that they are just a bunch of dumb inbred hillbilly morons, who couldn't spell cat if you spotted them the C and the A. Who really gives a crap about fans of a team that we beat twice last season, after coming off of 0 -16 then 1 - 15, then acts like they have a good football team. It doesn't suck at all being a Browns fan right now. Especially since we just exposed your joke of a defense, and your great fans, as they ran for the exits in the 4th quarter.

Penalties are going to be a big factor in this game. That has been our undoing in both losses this season. We commit penalties at the worst possible time, then the refs will always pile on. We've seen it for years, and that's the one thing that hasn't changed with this team. The refs have always had some kind of vendetta, and probably get bonuses from the league if they cost us a game. I don't know why, but I know this is true. So, like the Titans game, if we commit a few penalties to break the ice, then we are screwed. We will always get blasted by the refs...calling holding penalties on almost every play, where the other team commits the same offenses, but it doesn't get called. If the penalty is a borderline judgment call, you can bet we will be penalized. This is the kind of thing that can ruin a season.

You don't give our team a second thought?? Go back to you r board and check again. 90% of your topics are related to the Browns. You guys talk about us "buying into the hype"???..WTF?...after 1 week in the regular season, you were naming Kordell...oops, I mean Lamar the MVP....the next Johnny Unitas. Which, I don't see any connection with your team. The Colts are in Indy...along with their name, colors, history, etc. Johnny Unitas played for the Colts....not the Ratbirds.

I've probably lost more than that betting on them over the last 50 years. ( humorous sarcasm ).

I hate to say it, but I don't think Kitchens is going anywhere. We have to hope he learns how to game plan and call plays. It is really frustrating to watch. Mayfield is getting killed with the garbage o line. A good coach would find ways to compensate for the pass rush, to some extent. I was looking forward to the game against Baltimore next week, but now I dread it. They have an excellent defense, but overrated. The game is winnable. They are not the dominating force they think they are.

With that, I will politely bow out of any further discussion with you. I obviously cannot match your intellect. My generation...silent?...rotflmao!

Mayfield definitely is playing "different" from last season. It could be changes to the offensive scheme since Monken came in, but it looks to me like he has no confidence in the o line. He seems to be lost on some plays, but that could be the Greg Williams defense confusing him. The other thing, and I hope this isn't the case, is that his confidence is shaken after the interceptions. We've seen enough of that with _______( insert any other qb since 1999).

Lol!....you still have a sense of humor.

I knew you would be serious about making big money. You are, after all, an attorney. What is my fee for this communication?

Try to be a little more clear with your point. What is blatantly obvious?...that I was being dramatic?...that I wasn't being dramatic?...What is on me?....the loss?...the disappointment in the loss? Nobody else bought into the hype?....the players, coaches, media? What exactly is your point?....or do you have a point?

Did I ever say that I wasn't being dramatic?? Is there a rule here about being dramatic or over reacting?? So sue me. Gipper?...here's your next client.