blowe Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Let's face it. Our offense is clearly what is losing us games. Our defense allowed 9 points today after being stranded out on the field with an inept offense for most of the game. That pick by Sheldon Brown was beautiful. Joe Haden and TJ Ward are all over the field. Our defense stuffed the run for MOST of the game. In the season opener the defense only allowed 10 points (ok, 17...but I don't count the 7 where they picked delhomme down to the 3 yard line). Our defense has been our strength so far this year. We need a better gameplan offensively. We do not use Cribbs as much as we should be using him. Daboll...don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'm not one to jump to conclusions with firing people, but after seeing how putrid our offense looked today, I'm all for it. So lets tip our cap to this defense. They may not be the best in the league, but at least they are playing like a real unit. They haven't allowed many points this year. It's very refreshing to watch. Now things may change against the more dynamic offenses, but I like what I see so far. Stay positive. Go Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Good post. It's the truth. I love watching TJ and Joe out there this year. After today, I am not very optimistic about winning a lot of games this year, but I am stoked to see the development of our talented young defensive players. I believe offensively we really do need a much better receiver. I honestly think Carlton Mitchell has enough speed to connect with Wallace or Delhomme on those failed deep route attempts like today. It's sad to admit but this year losing has a whole new feel to it, if that makes any sense, which means I do not feel like crap after this loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Let's face it. Our offense is clearly what is losing us games. Our defense allowed 9 points today after being stranded out on the field with an inept offense for most of the game. That pick by Sheldon Brown was beautiful. Joe Haden and TJ Ward are all over the field. Our defense stuffed the run for MOST of the game. In the season opener the defense only allowed 10 points (ok, 17...but I don't count the 7 where they picked delhomme down to the 3 yard line). Our defense has been our strength so far this year. We need a better gameplan offensively. We do not use Cribbs as much as we should be using him. Daboll...don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'm not one to jump to conclusions with firing people, but after seeing how putrid our offense looked today, I'm all for it. So lets tip our cap to this defense. They may not be the best in the league, but at least they are playing like a real unit. They haven't allowed many points this year. It's very refreshing to watch. Now things may change against the more dynamic offenses, but I like what I see so far. Stay positive. Go Browns. The only time the defense really looks suspect is after they come right back out on the field after the inept offense gives the ball back. There are some positives though - and they are that the foundation for this team should be defense and they appear to be on the right path. Until we get some playmakers and at least an average QB we will struggle offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 The defense today was an embarassment. We have a lot of linebackers, while at the same time, we have no linebackers. Nice trick Mr. Ryan. Get rid of the bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 The defense today was an embarassment. We have a lot of linebackers, while at the same time, we have no linebackers. Nice trick Mr. Ryan. Get rid of the bum. What game was you watching? We gave up 3 field goals and one was from an offensive fumble that set the Chiefs up within field goal range to start the drive. The defense is the only reason we've been in both games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsBacker85 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 The defense today was an embarassment. We have a lot of linebackers, while at the same time, we have no linebackers. Nice trick Mr. Ryan. Get rid of the bum. And how do you figure the defense was an "embarassment"? Pleasure us with some logic behind your statment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalty Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 This is a great thread... If somehow anyone survives this week in the Coaching Staff, I hope it is Rob Ryan. The guy runs a great defense.... They can't win games but they keep us in them to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 The defense was decent dude, not exceptional. Considering the talent level there isnt much more that can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ_Browns Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 And how do you figure the defense was an "embarassment"? Pleasure us with some logic behind your statment. exactly! the defense only gave up 6 pts. the chiefs got a td off of an int and a fg off of the jerome "fumble". what more does the d have to do? how much more can you ask of a defense than to only give up 6 pts? some people don't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darubes Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 The defense was decent dude, not exceptional. Considering the talent level there isnt much more that can be done. The defense is just that--- decent at best. I would say that they are a smidge above average. The negatives-- they have no pash rush, they can't get off the field on thrid down, Abe Elam is terrible,and the LBs are sloooooow. Remember they played Josh Freeman (with a broken thumb) and Matt Cassel (who is not the second coming of Joe Maontana) in the first two games.Also they are NOT that young. Outside of Rubin the DL is old. The LBs outside of Benard are not that young either. D'Qwell will help out when he gets back. At least he can run. The positives-- TJ Ward is a player!! Joe Haden will be good.Eric Wright is solid. Find me more positives please!!! I hate to see it when we play a good QB (Brees, Roethlisberger,etc.).They will expose this defense for what it is especially with the state of the Browns' offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I have no complaints about our defense other than we need to develop a pass rush, its a solid defense and ryan does a true pro job of adjusting it with what he has...we lack the speed in the front 7 for a consistent pass rush and we get burned in man defense if we send haden, wright or ward and its a waste of time to send elam.. Unfortunately as rich always says...its offense that wins championships... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drake54 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 we do need a pass rush, but that can be addressed this coming draft. you can't fix everything in one year. we can always look at our D this year if we do horribly. it'll be the bright spot for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Let's see if we can shut down Ray Rice this Sunday...a real tough assignment. The Ratbirds offense is struggling so far, I'm hoping the Browns can contain him. If we do stop Rice, Flacco will be forced to throw, and after 4 ints vs Cincy, his confidence may be down. We can't score any points on offense, but who knows....can I be the first to say this is a TOTAL TRAP GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobrownies Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 cassell had a ton of time on alot of passes last week. give any qb that much time they will find somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATENEARS Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Let's face it. Our offense is clearly what is losing us games. Our defense allowed 9 points today after being stranded out on the field with an inept offense for most of the game. That pick by Sheldon Brown was beautiful. Joe Haden and TJ Ward are all over the field. Our defense stuffed the run for MOST of the game. In the season opener the defense only allowed 10 points (ok, 17...but I don't count the 7 where they picked delhomme down to the 3 yard line). Our defense has been our strength so far this year. We need a better gameplan offensively. We do not use Cribbs as much as we should be using him. Daboll...don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'm not one to jump to conclusions with firing people, but after seeing how putrid our offense looked today, I'm all for it. So lets tip our cap to this defense. They may not be the best in the league, but at least they are playing like a real unit. They haven't allowed many points this year. It's very refreshing to watch. Now things may change against the more dynamic offenses, but I like what I see so far. Stay positive. Go Browns. Wow, I completely forgot about the pick from Sheldon Brown, that was a very athletic play. Just awesome. Here's the Benard sack, pretty damn good as well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATENEARS Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Let's see if we can shut down Ray Rice this Sunday...a real tough assignment. The Ratbirds offense is struggling so far, I'm hoping the Browns can contain him. If we do stop Rice, Flacco will be forced to throw, and after 4 ints vs Cincy, his confidence may be down. We can't score any points on offense, but who knows....can I be the first to say this is a TOTAL TRAP GAME I wish I was still alive in the Survivor Pool, It's so take the Browns (again) , total trap game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I knew Mack didn't pick up that penalty for nothing twithersAP Browns center Alex Mack still mad at Chiefs DT Shaun Smith. Mack said Smith grabbed him in a personal spot on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 we do need a pass rush, but that can be addressed this coming draft. you can't fix everything in one year. we can always look at our D this year if we do horribly. it'll be the bright spot for us. Well, they have sort of been trying to fix the pass rush in a number of drafts, and the guys just haven't measured up. I mean, we don't have to go as far back as Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren to see failure at the pass rusher positions. There was Kam Wembley along with D'Qwell Jackson in 2006. Neither of them lit up the opposing QBs. A year ago they went for Veikune and Maiava. Veikune is gone, Maiava is at the end of the bench (or is he gone too?) They went for Beau Bell and Leon Williams in the 4th rounds a couple of years in a row...nothing there. Of course there was Chaun Thompson in the second round...OOPS! Their best D Line pick in several years has been Ahtyba Rubin, and he is not a pass rusher. Yes, it will be a priorty...it has to be in the next draft/free agent period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Wow, I completely forgot about the pick from Sheldon Brown, that was a very athletic play. Just awesome. Here's the Benard sack, pretty damn good as well: Bernard seems like the best we have right now, but we need a ton more pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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