Riffer X Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/...oin_the_ne.html This will perk yinz up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I would prefer him to get a job with the Browns. But if they won't give him a job I'm not against him working for another team, even if it's in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraDawg Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 we have enough coaches that are on the job training . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Has Bernie ever actually been a coach anywhere besides his daughter's pee wee teams? Not that he may not be capable, but I just don't think he has any experience. Further....isn't he still connected with the Gladiators Arena League team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Make him quarterback coach with the Browns. Now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybull1 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Bernie can read defense's as good as any QB that played the game... If you catch him on the pre season broadcasts, he usually calls the play or says what play should be called as the teams go to the line of scrimmage.. Now granted, pre season offense & defense is pretty vanilla -- football 101 but it shows he knows the game... He'd be a great playcaller in the NFL.. If he truely wants to dedicate himself to the rigors of an NFL schedule with the personal sacrifices you have to make, then I think it's highly likely He'll succeed... If thats the case the Browns sure as hell better put him on the payroll.. I don't want to see another Brown (Paul & Noll) have success with another team... Great football mind... Peace T.Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraDawg Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I would be wondering what his motivation is at this point . Besides money . And why it took him so long to decide to finally do it . It just don't pass the smell test to me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybull1 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Bernie has gone through some rough personal issues in the past few years... Maybe his head is starting to clear and he yearns for the spotlight again.. He still owe's the Browns some major benjamins so maybe there might be some hard feelings in the mix.. Bernie Kosar is a Cleveland icon, his name is immediately associated with Cleveland..Hope we keep it that way.. Peace T.Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Bernie has gone through some rough personal issues in the past few years... Maybe his head is starting to clear and he yearns for the spotlight again.. He still owe's the Browns some major benjamins so maybe there might be some hard feelings in the mix.. Why does he owe the Browns money? I mean, the Browns are not a bank that lends out money. If anything he is paid by them for broadcasting. Perhaps he owes Rander Lerner on a personal loan, but not the Browns. Just curious, never heard anything about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 This makes Me absolutely sick to my effin stomach...Maybe football is just dead here...fukc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybull1 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 There was recently an article on Bernie, his divorce, him raising his children and it highlighted the numerous injuries he sustained throughout his career... In the article it said that Kosar had a personal loan from Lerner (not sure if it was Sr. or Jr. Lerner) something like 1.5 million... There was a lot of mud thrown around by his ex and I believe there were some acuisations about substance abuse.. A few years back I saw him at a pre season game and he seemed to be buzzed but truthfully Bernie was always a bit goofy in his speach so he could have been completely normal... Granted, he did do the kneel down for Dallas in the Super Bowl but he never left Cleveland on his own---he was asked to leave--diminishing skills I believe... I like Bernie, has a great football mind and in my mind He'll always be a Brown... Peace T.Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Kosar came in for Aikman in the playoff game, and led the Cowboys to a winning score, to GET to the superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Kosar The Dallas Cowboys then signed Kosar to a one-year, $1 million contract to fill in for an injured Troy Aikman. Kosar performed well in four games for the Cowboys and earned his only championship ring as a backup in Super Bowl XXVIII. A week prior to the Super Bowl, Kosar relieved an injured Aikman in the second half of the NFC championship game against the San Francisco 49ers, completing five of nine pass attempts for 83 yards, one touchdown and no interceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I find it odd that Bernie would want to join the Pats. Was it not Belichick who let him go for diminishing skills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I find it odd that Bernie would want to join the Pats. Was it not Belichick who let him go for diminishing skills... I understand they long ago patched up their differences. It was probably Belichick who "apologized" to Bernie for not giving the veteran QB a free hand at changing whatever plays were called, and for cutting him when he had no viable alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I think Kosar could be a excellent QB coach, as someone else mentioned when you watch the preseason games you can tell he knows about the defenses what play calls should be and how the QB should react/audible against those defenses. And since our OC wont be a true OC you could even start Bernie out as QB coach and maybe work his way up to the working OC at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I think Kosar could be a excellent QB coach, as someone else mentioned when you watch the preseason games you can tell he knows about the defenses what play calls should be and how the QB should react/audible against those defenses. And since our OC wont be a true OC you could even start Bernie out as QB coach and maybe work his way up to the working OC at some point. Bernie would be an excellent addition to any team, as a qb coach....maybe even OC. Here's the problem: If Holmgren brought Bernie in, it would once again, become Bernie's team. He is a home town hero, who did well here, and was let go in '93....not due to "diminished skills"...which actually was true to some extent, but due to the power struggle between him and Bellichick. Holmgren would risk a repeat of that same situation, which was not good for the team, or anyone involved. The way I saw it back then, was that Belichick was a weasel, just trying to sabatoge the team. The way I see it today, is that Bernie was undermining Belichick's authority with the players, and had to be removed to move forward. No matter how pissed off we were about how it was done, it was absolutely the only way for the HC to get complete control of the team. Personally. I would love to see Kosar come in as a qb coach. No matter what you think of him, there is no denying that he is one of the smartest qb's to ever play the game. Holmgren will never put himself in that situation...to be made out to be the villain, if Bernie disagrees with him. At this point, who knows if Holmgren is the answer?....I hope so.....but I'm not sold on him, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though. He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards, and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though. He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards, and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso... Believe me....I'm no Bellichick fan. The way to win fans over is not to come in and remove all the favorite players of the fans. Bellichick did the same thing in New England....and it obviuosly worked. I know they weren't exactly thrilled when he went with Brady over Bledsoe. I think Bellichick's whole philosophy is to make changes where he thinks they need to be made...no matter what anyone else thinks. You have to have a little respect for the guy.....doing what he feels is the right thing, no matter how unpopular that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 No, I don't. I'm contrary that way. GGG Butticheck didn't have a Tom Brady waiting in the wings when he dumped Bernie for NO GOOD REASON, and he didn't have to dump Bernie out of saving what little ego he had left while in Cleveland. It's all nice and good for him that he learned from his very stupid mistakes, and grew up, and even developed some people skills with the Patriots. But I don't respect him for the time he was in Cleveland. But though he wasn't "Butticheck" with the Patriots, it was too late for my Browns. And dumping on Kosar because Butticheck had no clue about offense, and Kosar tried to win despite him... he sucked, he will have always sucked, he was buttichoke, and all the good he did with the Patriots doesn't change that. I curse him, his rep reeks worse than limberger sp? cheese, and the Patriots could have been in the superbowl this year, if he had drafted some offensive linemen, and I hope he falls into a little pen of pig poop while on vacation in this off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 No, I don't. I'm contrary that way. GGG Butticheck didn't have a Tom Brady waiting in the wings when he dumped Bernie for NO GOOD REASON, and he didn't have to dump Bernie out of saving what little ego he had left while in Cleveland. It's all nice and good for him that he learned from his very stupid mistakes, and grew up, and even developed some people skills with the Patriots. But I don't respect him for the time he was in Cleveland. But though he wasn't "Butticheck" with the Patriots, it was too late for my Browns. And dumping on Kosar because Butticheck had no clue about offense, and Kosar tried to win despite him... he sucked, he will have always sucked, he was buttichoke, and all the good he did with the Patriots doesn't change that. I curse him, his rep reeks worse than limberger sp? cheese, and the Patriots could have been in the superbowl this year, if he had drafted some offensive linemen, and I hope he falls into a little pen of pig poop while on vacation in this off-season. Lol!...well...at least you're not bitter. You know....I felt the same way. In fact, after he cut Bernie, I rooted against the Browns, hoping Modell would fire the little prick if he lost enough games. I could go as far to say that the main reason Modell kept Bellichick...even after all the fans being pissed off, was because it was all part of Modell's plan. He knew he was leaving, and maybe thought if he alienated most of the fans, "the move" wouldn't have been so traumatic for both parties. Just part of my conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybull1 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Belechick went with Brady because Bledsoe got injuried -- not because of some genius coaching move... In fact, Brady himself got injured in a playoff game later that year in Pittsburgh and Bledsoe came in to save the day (if I remember correctly)... Belechick got Brady by default not by his brilliant talent evaluation.... Peace T.Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I still don't see it as "Bernie underming Bellibuttcheek's authority", though. He was trying to help the team win, because Lord knows, that he knew defense, but the offense was pitiful, due to the plays that were being called. Butt didn't learn his lesson until afterwards, and learned how to stop being a snot-nosed, pompous, media despising piece of sludge. Butt envied Kosar for his outstanding leadership and the respect he had from his teammates. You don't see the Colt's head coach dumping Peyton Manning because he "undermines the authority of the head coach". jmso... What i heard is Bernie punched at Billicheck. There is more to the story than Bernie changing a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Belechick went with Brady because Bledsoe got injuried -- not because of some genius coaching move... In fact, Brady himself got injured in a playoff game later that year in Pittsburgh and Bledsoe came in to save the day (if I remember correctly)... Belechick got Brady by default not by his brilliant talent evaluation.... Peace T.Dawg You're right...kind of. Bledsoe was hurt, and BB went to Brady. But...when he found out what he had in Brady, he stuck with him, and cut Bledsoe, eventually. I remember...there were a lot of pissed off New England fans. Also....who do you suppose picked Brady in the 6th round of the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 What i heard is Bernie punched at Billicheck. There is more to the story than Bernie changing a play. Ballpeen ************************************ What I heard, is that the whole Browns offense wanted to elbow Butticheck in the nose, and Butticheck shoved Bernie first, and injured his hand when Kosar didn't move an inch, then Butticheck cried, and Kosar went out and changed the play, and got a TOUCHDOWN, and Butticheck wet his pants and kicked Bernie off the team. @@ Whatever. I'm never going to respect Butticheck, and my decision is final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw220 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 All else aside why couldnt we bring him in as a QB coach for the Browns or something along those lines, im guessing it has something to do with money as someone else said??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 bernie did more for the browns past the championship era than any other player. the fact that he might look at another team for a coaching position has nothing to do with belichick or anything else for that matter concerning the browns EXCEPT if he does want to coach now and not here i believe it has more to do with holmgren's overinflated ego and his make-believe status that would make ANY 'REAL' legitimate football mind not want to be anywhere near this FAT FXXK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybull1 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 IODIL, if Belecheat was such a good talent evaluater why did he wait till the 6th round to pick Brady????? He was doing what he was taught by Parcells- you always pick a QB in the later rounds of every draft.. I believe Holmgren does the same. He didn't play Brady until he performed on the field like he did every day in practice- genius my ass. Peace T.Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Hands Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 If Belichik hires Kosar, then I agree with Y'all. Belichik is an asshole. Sorry, he ain't getting hired by the Pats. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he did get hired by the pats rumor is that they're the front runner....per his dad who brings his car into the shop i work at in boardman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 We hired Whipple and a few other assistants, probably no Bernie. I'm not picking on you, Mikey, your was the post that finally made me respond to this thread. In short, who cares what Kosar does? He had a nice run in Cleveland and, for a relatively short period of time, was considered to be a 'franchise quarterback'. However, his legend doesn't extend much beyond the imaginations of Browns' fans still aching for a Super Bowl. I like BK. He was a good guy. Let's not go crazy, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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