USFBrown Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 OMG. I wanted him in the 3rd round. 22nd was way too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Dude woulda been picked up by someone else. All the other QB's are a tier lower than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 It was too early and now we are back to the Quinn vs. Anderson crap with Colt and Brandon. I will support our starter. That's my direction. Either way, we are gonna have the best backup in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 It was too early and now we are back to the Quinn vs. Anderson crap with Colt and Brandon. I will support our starter. That's my direction. Either way, we are gonna have the best backup in the NFL. Jason Cambell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Anything is better than having to watch Seneca Wallace try and complete passes...IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Jason Cambell? I figured you would've gone with Henne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I figured you would've gone with Henne. Who said he was a backup.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Who said he was a backup.... Touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills-n-Browns-Fan Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Dude woulda been picked up by someone else. All the other QB's are a tier lower than him. I think USF is joking, he was complimenting Weeden earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBrown Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I do like weeden. At the time I thought it was too early for him. After some time I realize that someone else may have snagged him. Not sure who that early but at the end glad we got a qb with a big arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Weeden start the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofthiscrap Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I just created this account because I needed to vent somewhere. Why not here. Browns fan for 35 years, season ticket holder, call me a masochist if you must. As picks 10-21 were announced, I couldn't believe how perfectly the stars were aligning for the Browns. Teams were picking defensive player after defensive player, leaving all offense on the board - the Browns had a plethora of choices. Fine, Kendall Wright is off the board, we don't need to waste a first round draft pick on a sub-six-foot wideout. Fortune finally shines on Cleveland, as the second and third best offensive linemen are available at pick 22! The Browns can choose from the second best tackle, arguable the best right tackle on the board, or the highest rated guard in the draft! Out o-line is absolutely depleted - we got Joe Thomas and Alex Mack, followed by scrubs. We have 40% of a line with zero depth. We can shore this critical component of the team up as the entire collection of linemen, outside of Kalil, has fallen into our lap. Oh, glorious day! Then the fateful moment when Roger Goodell announces the pick. Brandon MotherFucking Weeden. A 30 year old rookie quarterback. The 4th rated quarterback on the board, selected at number 22 overall - over the highest rated RT and OG on the board. An injured baseball player. I'm only 35. I have never seen my city win a championship, I've never had the privilege of rioting in celebration. At this moment, I feel like rioting in pure rage. I want things to burn. We have a 30 year old rookie quarterback. With a decrepit offensive line, and no valid receiver. Why the fuck am I paying thousands of dollars to support this bullshit? I could not believe our luck - we could choose between Reiff or DeCastro - even the sad excuse for an NFL franchise Cleveland Browns couldn't be dumb-fuck-idiotic enough to fuck this up. Brandon MotherFucking Goddamned Weeden. AN old, injured pitcher. Now our starting quarterback. Meanwhile, the hated rival Pittsburgh Steelers get DeCastro. And Mike Adams. Mike Homlgren, Randy Lerner, and the rest of the Browns front office: I hate you all with every ounce of my heart. If Weeden is not a Pro Bowl quarterback in 2012, I hope to god that you have the decency to resign in disgrace and get the fuck out of this town. Anyways, that how I, as a Browns fan and season ticket holder feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I just created this account because I needed to vent somewhere. Why not here. Browns fan for 35 years, season ticket holder, call me a masochist if you must. As picks 10-21 were announced, I couldn't believe how perfectly the stars were aligning for the Browns. Teams were picking defensive player after defensive player, leaving all offense on the board - the Browns had a plethora of choices. Fine, Kendall Wright is off the board, we don't need to waste a first round draft pick on a sub-six-foot wideout. Fortune finally shines on Cleveland, as the second and third best offensive linemen are available at pick 22! The Browns can choose from the second best tackle, arguable the best right tackle on the board, or the highest rated guard in the draft! Out o-line is absolutely depleted - we got Joe Thomas and Alex Mack, followed by scrubs. We have 40% of a line with zero depth. We can shore this critical component of the team up as the entire collection of linemen, outside of Kalil, has fallen into our lap. Oh, glorious day! Then the fateful moment when Roger Goodell announces the pick. Brandon MotherFucking Weeden. A 30 year old rookie quarterback. The 4th rated quarterback on the board, selected at number 22 overall - over the highest rated RT and OG on the board. An injured baseball player. I'm only 35. I have never seen my city win a championship, I've never had the privilege of rioting in celebration. At this moment, I feel like rioting in pure rage. I want things to burn. We have a 30 year old rookie quarterback. With a decrepit offensive line, and no valid receiver. Why the fuck am I paying thousands of dollars to support this bullshit? I could not believe our luck - we could choose between Reiff or DeCastro - even the sad excuse for an NFL franchise Cleveland Browns couldn't be dumb-fuck-idiotic enough to fuck this up. Brandon MotherFucking Goddamned Weeden. AN old, injured pitcher. Now our starting quarterback. Meanwhile, the hated rival Pittsburgh Steelers get DeCastro. And Mike Adams. Mike Homlgren, Randy Lerner, and the rest of the Browns front office: I hate you all with every ounce of my heart. If Weeden is not a Pro Bowl quarterback in 2012, I hope to god that you have the decency to resign in disgrace and get the fuck out of this town. Anyways, that how I, as a Browns fan and season ticket holder feel. I'm behind weeden now and you should be too. If you're not you might as well root for the steelers. Screw the o-line, colt wasn't getting it done if he was behind a safety barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReginaBrownsFan Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fji2EeqkcZs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Watch the Sportscience on Weeden. It's impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricanE Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Colt wasn't getting it done huh Your right, with a weak line, no running game, and no receivers. He wasn't getting it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gafreleets Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 browns may have had the worst 2 first round picks in league history. first the vikings give you the shaft..........and not just the shaft, but a 10ft long splinter riddled 4inch wide shaft right up the pooper. on top of the fact that you've got MUCH bigger needs than a RB (the next coming of AP or not) and when there is plenty of talent at RB in later rounds (u know, those later round draft picks that you wasted to move up one pick and draft a position that wasn't nearly your highest need). than you guys pick a rookie QB that may actually retire of old age before he plays his 6th season with you? and you wonder why you're the laughing stock of the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 You're the laughingstock token troll of the browns board so what does that make you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Colt wasn't getting it done huh Your right, with a weak line, no running game, and no receivers. He wasn't getting it done. Because great quarterbacks are garbage without a superstar wide receiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Weeden was the BEST pick in this draft. Whether he flops or not, this is the message of "we want to win" we have been waiting to hear. To all you Colt apologists, FUCK YOU, stop talking because you either don't know football or have a man crush. McCoy showed his limitations back in the Mangini era. Colt isn't capable period, the FO recognized that and would stop at nothing to replace him. That is a huge sign someone up there actually knows football. I'm 91.7% sure Holmgren made this pick so I hesitate to blame Heckert for the timing or quality of the pick. If he flops I'm gonna blame Holmgren more than anyone, but I respect the shit out of him for being ambitious enough to give hope at least. Colt is a rookie pee wee league back up quality QB, that's not what you build an offense around. Knowing this and the fact that they got hosed on RGIII and TR, I can't say I wouldn't have picked Weeden at 22 either if I thought he was gonna be something. You get cute and he's not there at 37 then what? Your not building anything with Colt other than a team of underachievers. So thank you H&H for filling the BIGGEST hole on the team. Now we might actually get to see Shurmur's full playbook and playcalling ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBrownsFan Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I figured you would've gone with Henne. Benedict Henne with his whacko nut job of a HS coach Jim Cantafio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Colt wasn't getting it done huh Your right, with a weak line, no running game, and no receivers. He wasn't getting it done. Go away please. The guy has no arm, makes poor decisions, and is not NFL caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I'm not picking sides on the whole McCoy vs Weeden debate. I honestly just want to win, I don't care who's under center. I'm just tired of hearing the whole "Well Weeden beat Luck, Griffin, etc" argument. I mean McCoy beat Drew Brees and Tom Brady in back-to-back games. It's just not a valid argument, for me. I'm not saying Colt is better by any means, just annoyed with useless stats like that. I honestly don't know who's better, but I still don't think either QB has the weapons in place to win next year. They might be able to throw the ball, but if there's no one there to catch it, the balls going to hit the turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmusch Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 One way or another, Weeden is going to start. Throw him on the field immediately. I really wanted the Browns to flip McCoy for a 5th or 6th rounder during the draft, just to get something in return. Weeden could become a solid QB, I'm projecting one who is consistently rated among the top 12 at his position, but probably never passing into the elite category. He may not be ideal at pick 22 (mainly due to his age), but to get a QB with arm strength and arm talent is huge, since McCoy is severely limited in both. I see Little breaking 1000 yards and 8 touchdowns, and Massaquoi stepping up to a true number two with 800 yards and 7 touchdowns, as the primary deep threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I just created this account because I needed to vent somewhere. Why not here. Browns fan for 35 years, season ticket holder, call me a masochist if you must. Then the fateful moment when Roger Goodell announces the pick. Brandon MotherFucking Weeden. A 30 year old rookie quarterback. The 4th rated quarterback on the board, selected at number 22 overall - over the highest rated RT and OG on the board. An injured baseball player. I could not believe our luck - we could choose between Reiff or DeCastro - even the sad excuse for an NFL franchise Cleveland Browns couldn't be dumb-fuck-idiotic enough to fuck this up. Brandon MotherFucking Goddamned Weeden. AN old, injured pitcher. Now our starting quarterback. Pretty much how I felt... Not that it'll make you feel any better, but if Wright had been on the board he'd have been the pick and we had a plan to move our #37 back up into Rnd 1 to ensure we got Weeden. That that plan was not launched to nab Rieff mystifies me. Watch the Sportscience on Weeden. It's impressive Have you seen a sport science where the subject player hasn't been impressive? Plus I'm going to bet that you've never shot skeet. Weeden was the BEST pick in this draft. Whether he flops or not... I got this far and stopped reading. Why continue when continuing could only endanger your post's "idiot-post-of-the-year" status. One question for all you Weeden lovers... Have you actually looked at game tape? Ball-patting one read wonder. If you're a swing-pass aficionado you'll be pleased. If not for Blackmon, they lose. Made me realize how little he actually uses his "cannon". It's there and he does, but only a few times. I counted at least three Pro grade passes. Tape three and I finally notice his footwork... or lack of it. Back-foot throw after back-foot throw. Better in the 2nd half of the tape... then comes the legendary Safety/ Pick 6... 63 - 6 in the late 3rd Qtr when the tape stops... Clear mismatch and a ton of stat padding.A lot of good here... stepping into throws... zipping the ball... until he gets roughed. And then mechanics fall apart for a bit before recovering. Enough for now... a lot to chew on and some of it not tasting so good... Oh... and zero snaps under center... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefjerky Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 He also beat all the best college QBs, in Luck, Griffin, etc, put up huge numbers, Blackmon needed Weeden just as much as Weeden needed Blackmon. If you watched the Gruden QB camp, he mentioned how everyone on the team was pretty shaken up about the whole plane crash thing(leading up to the Iowa St game), and that he doesn't care how tough anyone is, when something like that happens it makes it a lot tougher to play football. You're also cherry picking all his bad games, even great QBs have had bad games before, every single one of them, the matter is that he's def had more good games than bad games and is better than what they have. I dont care about his age really, he hasn't taken an NFL beating yet so I consider him more like 26 than 29(he'll be 29 in Oct), and medical treatment gets better every year. his age is the only reason why he was available at 22 anyway. this dude will be the first dude to throw for large yardage since Anderson and Holcomb, and he's better than both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 browns may have had the worst 2 first round picks in league history. first the vikings give you the shaft..........and not just the shaft, but a 10ft long splinter riddled 4inch wide shaft right up the pooper. on top of the fact that you've got MUCH bigger needs than a RB (the next coming of AP or not) and when there is plenty of talent at RB in later rounds (u know, those later round draft picks that you wasted to move up one pick and draft a position that wasn't nearly your highest need). than you guys pick a rookie QB that may actually retire of old age before he plays his 6th season with you? and you wonder why you're the laughing stock of the NFL? Of course you're upset. The Browns have greatly improved themselves with this draft. The Stooler's tired old defense has their work cut out for them. It's always good when competitors are trying to blast you for replacing a shitty QB with a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Pretty much how I felt... Not that it'll make you feel any better, but if Wright had been on the board he'd have been the pick and we had a plan to move our #37 back up into Rnd 1 to ensure we got Weeden. That that plan was not launched to nab Rieff mystifies me. Have you seen a sport science where the subject player hasn't been impressive? Plus I'm going to bet that you've never shot skeet. I got this far and stopped reading. Why continue when continuing could only endanger your post's "idiot-post-of-the-year" status. One question for all you Weeden lovers... Have you actually looked at game tape? Ball-patting one read wonder. If you're a swing-pass aficionado you'll be pleased. If not for Blackmon, they lose. Made me realize how little he actually uses his "cannon". It's there and he does, but only a few times. I counted at least three Pro grade passes. Tape three and I finally notice his footwork... or lack of it. Back-foot throw after back-foot throw. Better in the 2nd half of the tape... then comes the legendary Safety/ Pick 6... 63 - 6 in the late 3rd Qtr when the tape stops... Clear mismatch and a ton of stat padding.A lot of good here... stepping into throws... zipping the ball... until he gets roughed. And then mechanics fall apart for a bit before recovering. Enough for now... a lot to chew on and some of it not tasting so good... Oh... and zero snaps under center... If you were an actual scout who really knew what you were talking about I might care. But you're not, and I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackcloud Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I just created this account because I needed to vent somewhere. Why not here. Browns fan for 35 years, season ticket holder, call me a masochist if you must. As picks 10-21 were announced, I couldn't believe how perfectly the stars were aligning for the Browns. Teams were picking defensive player after defensive player, leaving all offense on the board - the Browns had a plethora of choices. Fine, Kendall Wright is off the board, we don't need to waste a first round draft pick on a sub-six-foot wideout. Fortune finally shines on Cleveland, as the second and third best offensive linemen are available at pick 22! The Browns can choose from the second best tackle, arguable the best right tackle on the board, or the highest rated guard in the draft! Out o-line is absolutely depleted - we got Joe Thomas and Alex Mack, followed by scrubs. We have 40% of a line with zero depth. We can shore this critical component of the team up as the entire collection of linemen, outside of Kalil, has fallen into our lap. Oh, glorious day! Then the fateful moment when Roger Goodell announces the pick. Brandon MotherFucking Weeden. A 30 year old rookie quarterback. The 4th rated quarterback on the board, selected at number 22 overall - over the highest rated RT and OG on the board. An injured baseball player. I'm only 35. I have never seen my city win a championship, I've never had the privilege of rioting in celebration. At this moment, I feel like rioting in pure rage. I want things to burn. We have a 30 year old rookie quarterback. With a decrepit offensive line, and no valid receiver. Why the fuck am I paying thousands of dollars to support this bullshit? I could not believe our luck - we could choose between Reiff or DeCastro - even the sad excuse for an NFL franchise Cleveland Browns couldn't be dumb-fuck-idiotic enough to fuck this up. Brandon MotherFucking Goddamned Weeden. AN old, injured pitcher. Now our starting quarterback. Meanwhile, the hated rival Pittsburgh Steelers get DeCastro. And Mike Adams. Mike Homlgren, Randy Lerner, and the rest of the Browns front office: I hate you all with every ounce of my heart. If Weeden is not a Pro Bowl quarterback in 2012, I hope to god that you have the decency to resign in disgrace and get the fuck out of this town. Anyways, that how I, as a Browns fan and season ticket holder feel. Holy shit. He is TWENTY EIGHT. stop constantly rounding up to be dramatic, it makes you look less credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 He also beat all the best college QBs, in Luck, Griffin, etc, put up huge numbers, Blackmon needed Weeden just as much as Weeden needed Blackmon. If you watched the Gruden QB camp, he mentioned how everyone on the team was pretty shaken up about the whole plane crash thing(leading up to the Iowa St game), and that he doesn't care how tough anyone is, when something like that happens it makes it a lot tougher to play football. You're also cherry picking all his bad games, even great QBs have had bad games before, every single one of them, the matter is that he's def had more good games than bad games and is better than what they have If I cherry picked bad games, why would I include the Stanford game? And a game where OSU was up by 57 points after 3 Qtr's? In truth these were the first four to pop up on youtube... I plan to do all his Sr. year. And, yes, I watched Gruden's Weeden segment. It's where I first noticed the loop in his release. If you were an actual scout who really knew what you were talking about I might care. But you're not, and I don't. Back at ya, Skippy... Much greater economy of time and effort to assail the critic than to actually develop a counter-factual argument. Holy shit. He is TWENTY EIGHT. stop constantly rounding up to be dramatic, it makes you look less credible. 29 in October... As this is now May, it's officially time to round up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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