Bills-n-Browns-Fan Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Adderall is some good shit. Can't blame Joe for wanting to use it. Top notch performance enhancer. But come on man, get some fake pee or something. Quick fix plus beats a drug test every time. Yeah it is, gets you super focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowburn Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 For Christ sake. What's with all the hush hush speculation? Either he popped positive or he didn't. Give him his suspension and move on. Along with our speed freak cornerback our top draft pick is back in Podunk, Alabama seeking guidance from his family general practioner doctor while some of the countries best orthopedic quacks are a stones throw away from training camp. 4 starters will be on the bench for the season opener and the hits just keep on coming. The Browns drama merry-go-round is getting old. I could use about 30 mg of adderrall about now. BTW...adderall is better than the date rape drug rophies (?) when it comes to rockin your babe's panties. just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 don't worry! the best offense in the AFC is going to be stepping on the field to put up 24+>our opponents' offensive #'s! all hail the weedster and travis benjamin! you couldn't run a shoe factory let alone the browns. hopefully haslem will just start kicking the fat sludge out the 'land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Now Buster gets his shot. I know I would play Buster or whoever fills in for Joe with the ones the rest of the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Guys relax! He hasn't even been suspended yet and if he is suspended he will be able to appeal it! Here's some more info on the matter.. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/report-joe-haden-faces-four-game-suspension/ Jimmy Haslam may be having a mild case of buyer’s remorse. With questions swirling about the knee of top-three draft pick Trent Richardson, a report has now emerged that 2010 top-1o pick Joe Haden could miss the first four games of the season for violating the league’s policy against steroids and related substances. Will Burge and Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com report that the league currently is “reviewing” a failed drug test for Adderall, a banned substance. Per the report, Haden has been informed that he tested positive. He apparently has not yet filed an appeal. If there’s an appeal, the suspension could be delayed indefinitely. Some appeals in the past have taken months to complete; Haden wouldn’t be suspended until the process ends. For Haden, if he had a prescription to take Adderall, he could finagle a reduction or complete reversal of the suspension. However, recent precedent from the league on that point has been all over the map. Then again, because teams and the league can say nothing about the reason for a player’s suspension under the steroids policy, it’s possible that Adderall has become the new dog-ate-my-homework-style excuse for players who don’t want to be stigmatized by the “S” word. For now, all anyone can do is wait and see. The team has said and will say nothing publicly, unless and until the suspension is official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 more season Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Guys relax! He hasn't even been suspended yet and if he is suspended he will be able to appeal it! Here's some more info on the matter.. What's more important his right to appeal or the fact that he is a drug abuser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills-n-Browns-Fan Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 What's more important his right to appeal or the fact that he is a drug abuser? Its adderall. It doesn't really effect your body unless you OD. The effect of it is that it gets you really focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 more season Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Its adderall. It doesn't really effect your body unless you OD. The effect of it is that it gets you really focused. Yah, no kidding. The issue is not what the effect of adderall is. It's that it is currently a banned substance by NFL rules and why is he taking it. If he truly has an attention disorder then that is another case but if he is just abusing it like many people do these days then that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 /facepalm.. Different regime, different players but the same ole crap.. Heckert is starting to look a whole lot like phil savage from where i stand.. By the end of pre-season we wont have anyone left standing but colt mccoy and joe thomas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 First off, we don't know he is a "drug abuser." If it is proven that he DID test positive for the substance, then the NFL will take action. BUT, Haden has the ability to appeal any suspension that is levied on him. If he is taking the medication under the care of a physician, he will most likely be given the suggestion to adjust his meds by the NFL, instead of docked nearly $1 million. If he is just buying them off the streets and abusing them, he'll get suspended regardless. Hopefully this is just a mistake by a young star NFL player that he learns from. But please, don't condemn the guy as a drug addict before any of the facts come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sensitive Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 For Christ sake. What's with all the hush hush speculation? Either he popped positive or he didn't. Give him his suspension and move on. Along with our speed freak cornerback our top draft pick is back in Podunk, Alabama seeking guidance from his family general practioner doctor while some of the countries best orthopedic quacks are a stones throw away from training camp. 4 starters will be on the bench for the season opener and the hits just keep on coming. The Browns drama merry-go-round is getting old. I could use about 30 mg of adderrall about now. BTW...adderall is better than the date rape drug rophies (?) when it comes to rockin your babe's panties. just sayin Yes.it is, yes it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gafreleets Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Guys relax! He hasn't even been suspended yet and if he is suspended he will be able to appeal it! Here's some more info on the matter.. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/report-joe-haden-faces-four-game-suspension/ Jimmy Haslam may be having a mild case of buyer’s remorse. With questions swirling about the knee of top-three draft pick Trent Richardson, a report has now emerged that 2010 top-1o pick Joe Haden could miss the first four games of the season for violating the league’s policy against steroids and related substances. Will Burge and Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com report that the league currently is “reviewing” a failed drug test for Adderall, a banned substance. Per the report, Haden has been informed that he tested positive. He apparently has not yet filed an appeal. If there’s an appeal, the suspension could be delayed indefinitely. Some appeals in the past have taken months to complete; Haden wouldn’t be suspended until the process ends. For Haden, if he had a prescription to take Adderall, he could finagle a reduction or complete reversal of the suspension. However, recent precedent from the league on that point has been all over the map. Then again, because teams and the league can say nothing about the reason for a player’s suspension under the steroids policy, it’s possible that Adderall has become the new dog-ate-my-homework-style excuse for players who don’t want to be stigmatized by the “S” word. For now, all anyone can do is wait and see. The team has said and will say nothing publicly, unless and until the suspension is official. hmmm, who exactly said it was adderall? i wonder.....the only reason to take adderall would be to speed.......but then why not just do cocaine?..........you're a millionaire many times over, you can afford it and it's out of your system faster than adderall anyway........hmmmmmmm, maybe he was roiding it up. makes more sense than adderall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 oh boy. here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sensitive Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 hmmm, who exactly said it was adderall? i wonder.....the only reason to take adderall would be to speed.......but then why not just do cocaine?..........you're a millionaire many times over, you can afford it and it's out of your system faster than adderall anyway........hmmmmmmm, maybe he was roiding it up. makes more sense than adderall. Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession hey, that's good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowe Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownRebel Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous. Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs. For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowe Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs. For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_II_(US)#Schedule_II_drugs this puts them in the same schedule (or class, if those are synonyms) and I would definitely believe that the classes could have changed because adderall has really grown in use and abuse in the last 5 years. I had a prescription while in college and people would hound me for that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownRebel Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_II_(US)#Schedule_II_drugs this puts them in the same schedule (or class, if those are synonyms) and I would definitely believe that the classes could have changed because adderall has really grown in use and abuse in the last 5 years. I had a prescription while in college and people would hound me for that stuff. I stand corrected sir. You are right. Typically c1s have "no accepted medicinal use" which is the loophole most weed advocates cite. I suppose they changed coke since its made from the same plant as a lot of painkillers. At any rate, thanks for pointing that out. Always good to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownfish Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 tough to lose AMC with all those great shows for another disappointing browns year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills-n-Browns-Fan Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang. You're missing out BB is the shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 You're missing out BB is the shit. besides mad men, the walking dead and hell on wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sensitive Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous. Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowe Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it. I know this. Regretfully, I was prescribed to adderall at one point and absolutely hated the way it made me feel. I would have no way of accessing Haden's prescriptions because that should be private and protected information. If you can get that info, I don't want to know how/where you got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sensitive Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 My point is if he's prescribed to adderall there's absolutely no need to take the risk of buying and using a highly illegal substance like cocaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Let's get Haden's suspension out of the way during the same time that Taylor is injured.. those are going to be bad games with growing pains for the offense. Rip the bandaid off quickly, take our medicine and be done with it. Might be a good idea. Certainly I don't think the Browns will challenge for the playoffs this year. Sorry. It might behoove us to have all these issues out of the way: Haden, Fujita, Taylor etc. Throw some of these young players into the fire: Winn and Hughes on the D-line, Acho and JMJ at LB, Skrine at Haden's spot. Once the starters come back, if they do, these kids will have gotten valuable experience....and some may never give up their job (esp JMJ). Then...for next year....with a year of experience under their belts can you say: PLAYOFFS! Playoffs? I talking about Playoffs....not...not...not (Oh, wait, I seem to be mixing my quotes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I know this. Regretfully, I was prescribed to adderall at one point and absolutely hated the way it made me feel. I would have no way of accessing Haden's prescriptions because that should be private and protected information. If you can get that info, I don't want to know how/where you got it Can you say HIPPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 profootballtalk.com had an article earlier about Haden taking adderal while on a trip to Vegas as a "Pick me up". Not saying this is true, but if it is and he is suspended then he needs to come out and say sorry for being an ass and hurting the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Adderall is some good shit. Can't blame Joe for wanting to use it. Top notch performance enhancer. But come on man, get some fake pee or something. Quick fix plus beats a drug test every time. Yeah it is, gets you super focused. [/qutote] adderall is meth, literally. not like it, it is it. a prescribable, socially acceptable meth. fwiw, meth is in oxy's, too. i have a script and it has no noticeable effect on me. btw, those who actually need it don't get high from it...they get normal. i have no idea if Joe needs it or not but he should know better. hey Joe, here 's your mulligan douche...don't let it happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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