BrownsKidd Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Ok, we all know about Mitt Romney being Mormon, but does anyone no anything about Mormonism. I find it a tad strange that someone like Mitt would fall for such a false religion based on the lies of a charlatan like Joseph Smith. Maybe it's because the LDS church is now so far removed from it's origins that it can some how dismiss it's history, but I find it difficult to pass up myself. Mormonism is not just "YOu must believe in Jesus to be saved". At it's core, it has some very mysterious and esoteric beliefs that do in fact, based on Christian Orthodoxy technically make Mormonism a "cult". Here are some issues in their beliefs. Before you go on, let me say that the LDS church is full of very good people who mean well and have great intentions. But all one has to do is look into the history books and find that there are some things that just don't line up and I can't believe that we have a candidate who considers himself to be Mormon. I wonder if he even knows about their deepest doctrines. This probably doesn't mean much to anyone. I will still vote for the man because he is the lesser of two evils IMO. But God, is this really the best this country can throw together. Here's the list. Jesus and Lucifer are spiritual brothers. A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus' plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to "deny men their agency and to dethrone god," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8). When we die, based on our earthly works, we could possibly attain "Godhood" and be given our "world" to be a "God and Goddess" over. God, as we traditionally think of him has a wife and they make spiritual babies who inhabit our physical offspring here on earth. God was also a man on another planet that attained this "Godhood" and was given control over our earth to be God over. There religion is very "Works" based and your afterlife and the results of your afterlife are determined by your works. There are different levels of the "Eternal Heaven" based on what we do here on Earth. Book of Mormon is on the same level as the Bible There is no salvation outside the mormon church - A.If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation [the context is the full gospel including exaltation to Godhood] outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. A."One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Yeah Mormonism is so unbelievable But other religions are totally legit! Lol If you start nitpicking about what morons believe then it'd only a small step to Catholics and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted September 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Yeah Mormonism is so unbelievable But other religions are totally legit! Lol If you start nitpicking about what morons believe then it'd only a small step to Catholics and the like. Yes, and I would agree with you to a point. However mormonism makes some very crazy claims. One in fact is that at one point, here in North America, just after the death of Christ, there was an advanced civilization that Christ came back to and ministered to. These people were in fact Jews who made it to north america, but we call them Indians. Yet, no archeological finds substantiate and DNA testing of Indians show that they have no connection to the middle east and jewish people. And all of these lies have been established, taught and spread since the mid-1800's. Well done Josepsh Smith, well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Sure I believe that Superman can fly and see through walls and has heat vision and bullets bounce on his chest but super hearing? Come on that's a little unbelievable.... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19645273 And in other news, a parchment was found that claims Jesus had a wife. Response from a theologian in an "acceptable" (Baptist) sect of Christian mythology. Jim West, a professor and Baptist pastor in Tennessee, said: "A statement on a papyrus fragment isn't proof of anything. It's nothing more than a statement 'in thin air', without substantial context." Sweet Christ, the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Ok, we all know about Mitt Romney being Mormon, but does anyone no anything about Mormonism. I find it a tad strange that someone like Mitt would fall for such a false religion based on the lies of a charlatan like Joseph Smith. Maybe it's because the LDS church is now so far removed from it's origins that it can some how dismiss it's history, but I find it difficult to pass up myself. Mormonism is not just "YOu must believe in Jesus to be saved". At it's core, it has some very mysterious and esoteric beliefs that do in fact, based on Christian Orthodoxy technically make Mormonism a "cult". Here are some issues in their beliefs. Before you go on, let me say that the LDS church is full of very good people who mean well and have great intentions. But all one has to do is look into the history books and find that there are some things that just don't line up and I can't believe that we have a candidate who considers himself to be Mormon. I wonder if he even knows about their deepest doctrines. This probably doesn't mean much to anyone. I will still vote for the man because he is the lesser of two evils IMO. But God, is this really the best this country can throw together. Here's the list. Jesus and Lucifer are spiritual brothers. A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus' plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to "deny men their agency and to dethrone god," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8). When we die, based on our earthly works, we could possibly attain "Godhood" and be given our "world" to be a "God and Goddess" over. God, as we traditionally think of him has a wife and they make spiritual babies who inhabit our physical offspring here on earth. God was also a man on another planet that attained this "Godhood" and was given control over our earth to be God over. There religion is very "Works" based and your afterlife and the results of your afterlife are determined by your works. There are different levels of the "Eternal Heaven" based on what we do here on Earth. Book of Mormon is on the same level as the Bible There is no salvation outside the mormon church - A.If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation [the context is the full gospel including exaltation to Godhood] outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. A."One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206). Did you really have to bring this up? Now all the atheists will come out of the closet spouting their BS. Who cares what religion he is? I only care what kind of leader he would make. Obama also says he is a man of faith, and had a revolutionary preacher who hated America. But we talk about Romney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19645273 And in other news, a parchment was found that claims Jesus had a wife. Response from a theologian in an "acceptable" (Baptist) sect of Christian mythology. Sweet Christ, the irony. ""A statement on a papyrus fragment isn't proof of anything. It's nothing more than a statement 'in thin air', without substantial context."" hahahahahahahahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Did you really have to bring this up? Now all the atheists will come out of the closet spouting their BS. Who cares what religion he is? I only care what kind of leader he would make. Obama also says he is a man of faith, and had a revolutionary preacher who hated America. But we talk about Romney. No I am pretty sure we get 2 or 3 threads a day with a link to Da Blaze, or breitbart, or beck or wahtever insulting some aspect of Obama... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQWuQVE6sw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Sure I believe that Superman can fly and see through walls and has heat vision and bullets bounce on his chest but super hearing? Come on that's a little unbelievable.... WSS lol, well done Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Did you really have to bring this up? Now all the atheists will come out of the closet spouting their BS. Who cares what religion he is? I only care what kind of leader he would make. Obama also says he is a man of faith, and had a revolutionary preacher who hated America. But we talk about Romney. I want to say his religion doesn't and shouldn't matter. And that's how most of America feels. I think the only people who really care about Romney's religion are the ultra-conservative, mainstream Christians. It's a non-issue for me. What's interesting, however, is that at a certain point a candidate's religiosity does matter. I could never vote for that religious idiot Santorum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 lol, well done Steve I thought he was a moron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 I thought he was a moron? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Who? In other posts you called Steve a moron. So, I guess as long as his answer fits your agenda, it's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 I guess he's WSS sycophant now LAWLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 In other posts you called Steve a moron. So, I guess as long as his answer fits your agenda, it's cool. Oh, lol. I thought you said Mormon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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