WRREBEL Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Did anyone notice when Mangini was coach Holmgren was always talking about how frustrated he was with the offense? Now that he has his lackey i don't here a peep out of him. I know his days are numbered but he has really become a loser.. Does anypone else want to punch these guys in the face? or is it just me? and what about judging the coach by wins and losses? Should Shurmur be graded now on just wins and losses? Holmgren: "I think that's how we all look at it. If we're 4-12 next year, I won't be a very happy camper. We must improve. The head coach is judged on his record. I expect us to win." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 my guess is the Old Country Buffet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 my guess is the Old Country Buffet seriusly what a waste of money.. Randy lerner could have used this for his gay soccer team.. GOD i will be so glad when the new owner is official!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I wish he was back in Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 my guess is the Old Country Buffet Nah. Cracker Barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I swear Holmgren makes me sick at so many levels. He was never fully invested in winning.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdawg2010 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hopefully he is in the process of packing his shit, and going back to Seattle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 HHaha Seattle hated him also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsKidd Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 What's Holmgren going to say? He has already stated that he has Shurmur's back several times and is sticking with this regime. He is not, IMO, going to say anything publicly that could allude or point to the idea that he made a mistake in bringing Shurmur in. At this point in time, he probably knows his time is about up and is doing what he should be doing and that is keeping his mouth shut to the public and media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 What's Holmgren going to say? He has already stated that he has Shurmur's back several times and is sticking with this regime. He is not, IMO, going to say anything publicly that could allude or point to the idea that he made a mistake in bringing Shurmur in. At this point in time, he probably knows his time is about up and is doing what he should be doing and that is keeping his mouth shut to the public and media. He might say what his favorite color is or anything... Yes his time is up and he is an epic failure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsane Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 We need to start the bring back mangini, but not also dabol chants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 We need to start the bring back mangini, but not also dabol chants! Hahhah Have you seen gaybol? He gained all is weight back plus some! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 how he sold Lerner on a 5 year plan is beyond AHYONE in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 how he sold Lerner on a 5 year plan is beyond AHYONE in the NFL back in the day when the new regime for any team would come in it was a given that it would take 5 years to turn a franchise around into what that regime thought it should be. well that all stopped when people started paying these players tons of money and the team still wouldn't produce or they missed on their draft picks. now if the regimes don't show improvement in the 2nd - 3rd year they are pretty much gone. not saying that i agree with it, because i actually DO think that you have to give the people the time to get the players they want and need.........just not this guy (holmgren). he didn't give mangini his time, which was a HUGE mistake, so he should get the same treatment. only perwson i would consider keeping on staff (FO) is heckert, but IMHO he kinda blew it this past draft. now if little was catching the ball and weeden wasn't staring his receivers down and throw up interceptions we might have a couple of wins under our belts and we might not be having these conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 back in the day when the new regime for any team would come in it was a given that it would take 5 years to turn a franchise around into what that regime thought it should be. well that all stopped when people started paying these players tons of money and the team still wouldn't produce or they missed on their draft picks. now if the regimes don't show improvement in the 2nd - 3rd year they are pretty much gone. not saying that i agree with it, because i actually DO think that you have to give the people the time to get the players they want and need.........just not this guy (holmgren). he didn't give mangini his time, which was a HUGE mistake, so he should get the same treatment. only perwson i would consider keeping on staff (FO) is heckert, but IMHO he kinda blew it this past draft. now if little was catching the ball and weeden wasn't staring his receivers down and throw up interceptions we might have a couple of wins under our belts and we might not be having these conversations. well it's been 2-3 years for holmgen and heckert. And it is OBVIOUS that Schurmur isn't the answer, and now we have a new owner...............KILL'EM ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BendMeOver Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Nah. Cracker Barrel Nah, Cracker Barrel isn't all-you-can eat...i'd guess Ponderosa and he may have eaten to much to exit the doorway he entered. My guess is Holmgren is trying to keep his cushy GM job and is spending too much time boot-licking your new owner to have time to talk to the media...between buffet meals that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Again, fair comments all the way around from Ghoolie.. Especially about Gruden/Cowher (includes the likes of Holmgren/Shanahan)etc., guys that have already reached the mountaintop. What I think you should want is a guy who has exhibited clear ability, yet was unable to get things accomplished in their first go around...ala Bill Belichick. Mangini seemed like he would be that sort of guy, but with the change at the top of the organization he didn't speak Holmgren's patois. That is why maybe a guy like Nick Saban...if he chose to leave college....could be a good choice. He has proven ability but his first effort in the NFL was a failure. That failure could motivate him...make him hungry for NFL success like he had in college. There would be nothing wrong with him playing Jimmy Johnson to Haslam's Jerry Jones. The difference is that JH would not have the inflated ego that Jones has. He would never make himself the GM of the club he owned. If there is someone other than Saban out there that might fit that same bill, it would be interesting to know who that may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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