Lombardi-Saban Rumor Heating Up...

[jbluhm86]

Report: If Cleveland Browns hire Michael Lombardi, Alabama's Nick Saban would be likely head coach target Andrew Gribble | agribble@al.com 12/09/2012 1:11 PM

 

TUSCALOOSA, Alabama -- According to a report in today's Boston Globe, Nick Saban could be targeted as the Cleveland Browns' next head coach if the woebegone franchise hires one of his former colleagues as general manager.

 

Michael Lombardi, an analyst for the NFL Network, could be in line to become Cleveland's next general manager if new owner Jimmy Haslam and team president Joe Banner cut ties with current GM Tom Heckert, according to the report, which cites anonymous NFL sources. The organization has already parted ways with president Mike Holmgren since Haslam took over as the team's owner in October, and there have been no guarantees made about the future of Heckert or coach Pat Shurmur.

 

The Browns are currently 4-8, went 4-12 in 2011 and have had just two winning seasons since 1999.

 

Lombardi and Saban worked together during the 90s, when Saban was the Browns' defensive coordinator and Lombardi was the Director of Player Personnel.

 

<b> According to the report, Saban has "let it be known that if he returns to the NFL ... it would likely be with Lombardi playing (Scott) Pioli to his (Bill) Belichick." </b>

 

Pioli, who is now the Kansas City Chiefs' general manager, and Belichick, a close friend of Saban's, won three Super Bowls together with the New England Patriots.

 

If Saban opted to stay at Alabama, Oregon coach Chip Kelly and former Denver Broncos coach Josh McDaniels would be Lombardi's next two choices, according to the report.

 

Saban went 15-17 over two seasons as the head coach of the Miami Dolphins before he left in 2007 to become Alabama's head coach.

 

In an interview Friday with the Smashmouth Radio Network on ESPN 97.3 The Zone in Birmingham, Saban's wife, Terry, strongly denied that her husband had any interest in rebuilding another college program or returning to the NFL.

 

“To answer your question and get right to the point, no,” she said. “We’re very comfortable here. We love it here. It’s a great fit for our family. It’s a good fit for me. As far as we’re concerned, this is where we’ll retire someday.

 

“As far as jobs go, this is it for us. I don’t mean to be presumptuous. I would have to talk this over with Nick, but as far as I’m concerned, this is it.”

 

 

If this rumor proves to be true, it would be nothing short of disastrous for the Browns. Although Saban has proven to be an excellent college coach, his NFL career has been less than stellar, with his performance in Miami coming to mind. And any personnel change involving hiring Lombardi would be a guaranteed losing scenario. That fat piece of shit has proven time and time again that he does not have the ability to handle the duties of a GM. Just look at how he botched his stints with Cleveland and Oakland. Dude is a fucking joke...

[WRREBEL]

well..

 

i think Shurmur is making the choice hard on Haslam. If and it is a big if, Shurmur wins out how can they fire him? I mean the team is playing well and excited.

 

is it me or does Shurmur actually seem like he gained some weight between his ears?

[jbluhm86]

I would be less pissed if they just replaced the head coach. Heckert is doing a great job, he has drafted a solid core of young talented players, which is more than can be said for the previous expansion Browns regimes. But Haslam/Banner will fuck up royally if they fire Heckert in favor of bringing in Lombardi. That dude is a first class homer, who has a proven track record of taking talented teams and completely destroying them with his ineptitude.

[The Gipper]

That Saban's name should come up is no surprise to me.

 

And he has denied stuff before that actually came true. (I am not leaving the Dolphins for Alabama.).

 

Saban would bring credibility....even if he insists on bringing Lombardi along as baggage.

 

So I am conflicted about this whole thing.

[hoorta]

That Saban's name should come up is no surprise to me.

 

And he has denied stuff before that actually came true. (I am not leaving the Dolphins for Alabama.).

 

Saban would bring credibility....even if he insists on bringing Lombardi along as baggage.

 

So I am conflicted about this whole thing.

 

If they bring in this fat POS Lom'tardi back to the Browns they may as well move the team to LA. IMHO.

 

Courtesy of our friends at the other board--- Marla Ridenour Article

 

Here's this doofus' record as GM.

 

1999 to 2007 – Oakland Raiders: Hired by owner Al Davis to become Senior Personnel Executive working closely with the owner on all football matters. Liaison with head coach and owner; responsible for pro and college player evaluations; and handled veteran contracts.

 

You could make the argument Al Davis was calling the shots BUT-

2007

1 1 1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB Louisiana State

2 2 6 38 Zach Miller TE Arizona State

3 3 1 65 Quentin Moses DE Georgia

4 3 28 91 Mario Henderson T Florida State

5 3 36 99 Johnnie Lee Higgins WR Texas-El Paso

6 4 1 100 Michael Bush RB Louisville

7 4 11 110 John Bowie DB Cincinnati

8 5 1 138 Jay Richardson DE Ohio State

9 5 28 165 Eric Frampton DB Washington State

10 6 1 175 Oren O'Neal RB Arkansas State

11 7 44 254 Johnathan Holland WR Louisiana Tech

 

2006

1 1 7 7 Michael Huff DB Texas

2 2 6 38 Thomas Howard LB Texas-El Paso

3 3 5 69 Paul McQuistan G Weber State

4 4 4 101 Darnell Bing DB USC

5 6 7 176 Kevin Boothe T Cornell

6 7 6 214 Chris Morris C Michigan State

7 7 47 255 Kevin McMahan WR Maine

 

2005

1 1 23 23 Fabian Washington DB Nebraska

2 2 6 38 Stanford Routt DB Houston

3 3 5 69 Andrew Walter QB Arizona State

4 3 14 78 Kirk Morrison LB San Diego State

5 6 1 175 Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin

6 6 38 212 Ryan Riddle DE California

7 6 40 214 Pete McMahon T Iowa

 

2004

1 1 2 2 Robert Gallery T Iowa

2 2 13 45 Jake Grove C Virginia Tech

3 3 4 67 Stuart Schweigert DB Purdue

4 4 3 99 Carlos Francis WR Texas Tech

5 5 2 134 Johnnie Morant WR Syracuse

6 6 1 166 Shawn Johnson DE Delaware

7 6 17 182 Cody Spencer LB North Texas

8 7 44 245 Courtney Anderson TE San Jose State

9 7 54 255 Andre Sommersell LB Colorado State

 

2003

1 1 31 31 Nnamdi Asomugha DB California

2 1 32 32 Tyler Brayton DE Colorado

3 2 31 63 Teyo Johnson WR Stanford

4 3 19 83 Sam Williams LB Fresno State

5 3 32 96 Justin Fargas RB USC

6 4 32 129 Shurron Pierson DE South Florida

7 5 32 167 Doug Gabriel WR Central Florida

8 6 31 204 Dustin Rykert T Brigham Young

9 7 32 246 Siddeeq Shabazz DB New Mexico State

10 7 48 262 Ryan Hoag WR Gustavus Adolphus

 

2002

1 1 17 17 Phillip Buchanon DB Miami (FL)

2 1 23 23 Napoleon Harris LB Northwestern

3 2 21 53 Langston Walker T California

4 2 23 55 Doug Jolley TE Brigham Young

5 5 12 147 Kenyon Coleman DE UCLA

6 6 17 189 Keyon Nash DB Albany State

7 6 25 197 Larry Ned RB San Diego State

8 7 24 235 Ronald Curry QB North Carolina

 

2001

1 1 28 28 Derrick Gibson DB Florida State

2 2 28 59 Marques Tuiasosopo QB Washington

3 3 27 89 DeLawrence Grant DE Oregon State

4 5 27 158 Raymond Perryman DB Northern Arizona

5 6 21 184 Chris Cooper DE Nebraska-Omaha

6 7 28 228 Derek Combs RB Ohio State

7 7 29 229 Ken-Yon Rambo WR Ohio State

 

2000

1 1 17 17 Sebastian Janikowski K Florida State

2 2 16 47 Jerry Porter WR West Virginia

3 4 13 107 Junior Ioane DT Arizona State

4 5 13 142 Shane Lechler P Texas A&M

5 7 21 227 Mondriel Fulcher RB Miami (FL)

6 7 25 231 Clifton Black DB Southwest Texas State

 

1999

1 1 18 18 Matt Stinchcomb T Georgia

2 2 9 40 Tony Bryant DE Florida State

3 4 7 102 Dameane Douglas WR California

4 5 13 146 Eric Barton LB Maryland

5 5 20 153 Roderick Coleman DE East Carolina

6 6 19 188 Daren Yancey DT Brigham Young

7 7 18 224 JoJuan Armour LB Miami (OH)

 

raiders 99-07

 

 

1998 – Philadelphia Eagles: Promoted to Director of Pro Personnel after serving as a consultant to team owner Jeffrey Lurie in 1997. Managed the professional personnel department and advised owner and chief financial officer on all player contracts and salary cap issues.

 

 

1998

1 1 11 11 Tra Thomas T Florida State

2 3 11 72 Jeremiah Trotter LB Stephen F. Austin

3 3 24 85 Allen Rossum DB Notre Dame

4 4 20 112 Brandon Whiting DT California

5 4 24 116 Clarence Love DB Toledo

6 5 19 142 Ike Reese LB Michigan State

7 7 31 220 Chris Akins DT Texas

8 7 51 240 Melvin Thomas G Colorado

 

eagles1998

 

 

1996 – St. Louis Rams: Prepared advisory reports for ownership during head coach search.

 

Did not participate in the draft, per wiki.

 

 

1987 to 1996 – Cleveland Browns: Joined team as Pro Personnel Director in 1987. Promoted to Director of Player Personnel in 1992 where he worked under head coach Bill Belichick and was responsible for all college and pro personnel decisions; managed salary cap and player personnel issues; oversaw staff of 13 college and pro scouts; handled all player contracts and advised head coach on all football matters.

 

 

1995

1 1 30 30 Craig Powell LB Ohio State

2 3 20 84 Eric Zeier QB Georgia

3 3 30 94 Mike Frederick DE Virginia

4 5 2 136 Tau Pupua DT Weber State

5 5 13 147 Mike Miller WR Notre Dame

6 7 23 231 A.C. Tellison WR Miami (FL)

 

1994

1 1 9 9 Antonio Langham DB Alabama

2 1 29 29 Derrick Alexander WR Michigan

3 3 10 75 Romeo Bandison DT Oregon

4 5 10 141 Isaac Booth DB California

5 6 10 171 Robert Strait RB Baylor

6 7 9 203 Andre Hewitt T Clemson

 

1993

1 1 14 14 Steve Everitt C Michigan

2 2 13 42 Dan Footman DE Florida State

3 3 27 83 Mike Caldwell LB Middle Tennessee State

4 5 12 124 Herman Arvie T Grambling State

5 6 13 153 Rich McKenzie LB Penn State

6 7 12 180 Travis Hill LB Nebraska

 

1992

1 1 9 9 Tommy Vardell RB Stanford

2 2 24 52 Patrick Rowe WR San Diego State

3 3 9 65 Bill Johnson DT Michigan State

4 3 22 78 Gerald Dixon LB South Carolina

5 6 3 143 Rico Smith WR Colorado

6 6 23 163 George Williams DT Notre Dame

7 7 9 177 Selwyn Jones DB Colorado State

8 9 9 233 Tim Hill DB Kansas

9 10 8 260 Marcus Lowe DT Baylor

10 11 9 289 Augustin Olobia WR Washington State

11 12 8 316 Keithen McCant QB Nebraska

12 12 21 329 Tim Simpson C Illinois

 

1991

1 1 2 2 Eric Turner DB UCLA

2 2 2 29 Ed King G Auburn

3 3 2 57 James Jones DT Northern Iowa

4 4 2 85 Pio Sagapulutele DT San Diego State

5 6 2 141 Michael Jackson WR Southern Mississippi

6 8 2 197 Frank Conover DT Syracuse

7 9 2 225 Raymond Irvin DB Central Florida

8 9 16 239 Shawn Wiggins WR Wyoming

9 10 2 252 Brian Greenfield P Pittsburgh

10 11 2 280 Todd Jones G Henderson State

11 12 2 308 Elijah Austin DT North Carolina State

 

1990

1 2 20 45 Leroy Hoard RB Michigan

2 3 20 73 Anthony Pleasant DE Tennessee State

3 4 20 101 Harlon Barnett DB Michigan State

4 5 20 129 Rob Burnett DE Syracuse

5 6 20 157 Randy Hilliard DB Northwestern State (LA)

6 7 13 178 Scott Galbraith TE USC

7 8 19 212 Jock Jones LB Virginia Tech

8 9 20 240 Eugene Rowell WR Southern Mississippi

9 10 20 268 Mike Wallace DB Jackson State

10 11 20 296 Clemente Gordon QB Grambling State

11 12 19 323 Kerry Simien WR Texas A&I

 

1989

1 1 13 13 Eric Metcalf RB Texas

2 2 3 31 Lawyer Tillman WR Auburn

3 4 23 107 Andrew Stewart DE Cincinnati

4 5 2 114 Kyle Kramer DB Bowling Green

5 5 4 116 Vernon Joines WR Maryland

6 6 21 160 Gary Wilkerson DB Penn State

7 7 20 187 Mike Graybill T Boston University

8 8 19 214 Rick Aeilts TE Southeast Missouri State

9 10 23 274 John Buddenberg T Akron

10 11 22 301 Dan Plocki K Maryland

11 12 21 328 Marlon Brown LB Memphis State

 

1988

1 1 21 21 Clifford Charlton LB Florida

2 2 23 50 Michael Dean Perry DT Clemson

3 3 22 77 Van Waiters LB Indiana

4 4 21 103 Anthony Blaylock DB Winston-Salem State

5 7 23 188 Thane Gash DB East Tennessee State

6 8 23 216 J.J. Birden WR Oregon

7 9 23 244 Danny Copeland DB Eastern Kentucky

8 10 23 272 Brian Washington DB Nebraska

9 11 23 300 Hendley Hawkins WR Nebraska

10 12 23 328 Steve Slayden QB Duke

 

1987

1 1 5 5 Mike Junkin LB Duke

2 2 4 32 Gregg Rakoczy C Miami (FL)

3 3 24 80 Tim Manoa RB Penn State

4 3 26 82 Jeff Jaeger K Washington

5 6 25 165 Stephen Braggs DB Texas

6 8 25 220 Steve Bullitt LB Texas A&M

7 10 25 276 Frank Winters C Western Illinois

8 11 24 303 Larry Brewton DB Temple

 

Browns 87-95

 

This guy's track record makes Phil Savage look like a genius. AND he thought us taking Josh Gordon in the Supplemental was a bad Idea. Excuse me while I hurl at the thought of this guy doing the drafting. Bill B worked with him and didn't want him back- he's flopped everywhere he's been. How many teams have to fire him before the light bulb comes on that as a GM, only Matt Millen could be considered worse (and that's marginal).

[USFBrown]

Why the hell would Saban leave when he's the top dawg in college football? Why come here with the added stress and lack of recruiting advantage. Some coaches are just college coaches and Saban is one of them.

[TheClevelandSound]

I have bolded his "good" moves.

 

1999 to 2007 – Oakland Raiders: Hired by owner Al Davis to become Senior Personnel Executive working closely with the owner on all football matters. Liaison with head coach and owner; responsible for pro and college player evaluations; and handled veteran contracts.

 

2007

1 1 1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB Louisiana State

2 2 6 38 Zach Miller TE Arizona State

3 3 1 65 Quentin Moses DE Georgia

4 3 28 91 Mario Henderson T Florida State

5 3 36 99 Johnnie Lee Higgins WR Texas-El Paso

6 4 1 100 Michael Bush RB Louisville

7 4 11 110 John Bowie DB Cincinnati

8 5 1 138 Jay Richardson DE Ohio State

9 5 28 165 Eric Frampton DB Washington State

10 6 1 175 Oren O'Neal RB Arkansas State

11 7 44 254 Johnathan Holland WR Louisiana Tech

 

2006

1 1 7 7 Michael Huff DB Texas

2 2 6 38 Thomas Howard LB Texas-El Paso

3 3 5 69 Paul McQuistan G Weber State

4 4 4 101 Darnell Bing DB USC

5 6 7 176 Kevin Boothe T Cornell

6 7 6 214 Chris Morris C Michigan State

7 7 47 255 Kevin McMahan WR Maine

 

2005

1 1 23 23 Fabian Washington DB Nebraska

2 2 6 38 Stanford Routt DB Houston

3 3 5 69 Andrew Walter QB Arizona State

4 3 14 78 Kirk Morrison LB San Diego State

5 6 1 175 Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin

6 6 38 212 Ryan Riddle DE California

7 6 40 214 Pete McMahon T Iowa

 

2004

1 1 2 2 Robert Gallery T Iowa

2 2 13 45 Jake Grove C Virginia Tech

3 3 4 67 Stuart Schweigert DB Purdue

4 4 3 99 Carlos Francis WR Texas Tech

5 5 2 134 Johnnie Morant WR Syracuse

6 6 1 166 Shawn Johnson DE Delaware

7 6 17 182 Cody Spencer LB North Texas

8 7 44 245 Courtney Anderson TE San Jose State

9 7 54 255 Andre Sommersell LB Colorado State

 

2003

1 1 31 31 Nnamdi Asomugha DB California

2 1 32 32 Tyler Brayton DE Colorado

3 2 31 63 Teyo Johnson WR Stanford

4 3 19 83 Sam Williams LB Fresno State

5 3 32 96 Justin Fargas RB USC

6 4 32 129 Shurron Pierson DE South Florida

7 5 32 167 Doug Gabriel WR Central Florida

8 6 31 204 Dustin Rykert T Brigham Young

9 7 32 246 Siddeeq Shabazz DB New Mexico State

10 7 48 262 Ryan Hoag WR Gustavus Adolphus

 

2002

1 1 17 17 Phillip Buchanon DB Miami (FL)

2 1 23 23 Napoleon Harris LB Northwestern

3 2 21 53 Langston Walker T California

4 2 23 55 Doug Jolley TE Brigham Young

5 5 12 147 Kenyon Coleman DE UCLA

6 6 17 189 Keyon Nash DB Albany State

7 6 25 197 Larry Ned RB San Diego State

8 7 24 235 Ronald Curry QB North Carolina

 

2001

1 1 28 28 Derrick Gibson DB Florida State

2 2 28 59 Marques Tuiasosopo QB Washington

3 3 27 89 DeLawrence Grant DE Oregon State

4 5 27 158 Raymond Perryman DB Northern Arizona

5 6 21 184 Chris Cooper DE Nebraska-Omaha

6 7 28 228 Derek Combs RB Ohio State

7 7 29 229 Ken-Yon Rambo WR Ohio State

 

2000

1 1 17 17 Sebastian Janikowski K Florida State

2 2 16 47 Jerry Porter WR West Virginia

3 4 13 107 Junior Ioane DT Arizona State

4 5 13 142 Shane Lechler P Texas A&M

5 7 21 227 Mondriel Fulcher RB Miami (FL)

6 7 25 231 Clifton Black DB Southwest Texas State

 

1999

1 1 18 18 Matt Stinchcomb T Georgia

2 2 9 40 Tony Bryant DE Florida State

3 4 7 102 Dameane Douglas WR California

4 5 13 146 Eric Barton LB Maryland

5 5 20 153 Roderick Coleman DE East Carolina

6 6 19 188 Daren Yancey DT Brigham Young

7 7 18 224 JoJuan Armour LB Miami (OH)

 

raiders 99-07

 

 

1998 – Philadelphia Eagles: Promoted to Director of Pro Personnel after serving as a consultant to team owner Jeffrey Lurie in 1997. Managed the professional personnel department and advised owner and chief financial officer on all player contracts and salary cap issues.

 

 

1998

1 1 11 11 Tra Thomas T Florida State

2 3 11 72 Jeremiah Trotter LB Stephen F. Austin

3 3 24 85 Allen Rossum DB Notre Dame

4 4 20 112 Brandon Whiting DT California

5 4 24 116 Clarence Love DB Toledo

6 5 19 142 Ike Reese LB Michigan State

7 7 31 220 Chris Akins DT Texas

8 7 51 240 Melvin Thomas G Colorado

 

eagles1998

 

 

1996 – St. Louis Rams: Prepared advisory reports for ownership during head coach search.

 

Did not participate in the draft, per wiki.

 

 

1987 to 1996 – Cleveland Browns: Joined team as Pro Personnel Director in 1987. Promoted to Director of Player Personnel in 1992 where he worked under head coach Bill Belichick and was responsible for all college and pro personnel decisions; managed salary cap and player personnel issues; oversaw staff of 13 college and pro scouts; handled all player contracts and advised head coach on all football matters.

 

 

1995

1 1 30 30 Craig Powell LB Ohio State

2 3 20 84 Eric Zeier QB Georgia

3 3 30 94 Mike Frederick DE Virginia

4 5 2 136 Tau Pupua DT Weber State

5 5 13 147 Mike Miller WR Notre Dame

6 7 23 231 A.C. Tellison WR Miami (FL)

 

1994

1 1 9 9 Antonio Langham DB Alabama

2 1 29 29 Derrick Alexander WR Michigan

3 3 10 75 Romeo Bandison DT Oregon

4 5 10 141 Isaac Booth DB California

5 6 10 171 Robert Strait RB Baylor

6 7 9 203 Andre Hewitt T Clemson

 

1993

1 1 14 14 Steve Everitt C Michigan

2 2 13 42 Dan Footman DE Florida State

3 3 27 83 Mike Caldwell LB Middle Tennessee State

4 5 12 124 Herman Arvie T Grambling State

5 6 13 153 Rich McKenzie LB Penn State

6 7 12 180 Travis Hill LB Nebraska

 

1992

1 1 9 9 Tommy Vardell RB Stanford

2 2 24 52 Patrick Rowe WR San Diego State

3 3 9 65 Bill Johnson DT Michigan State

4 3 22 78 Gerald Dixon LB South Carolina

5 6 3 143 Rico Smith WR Colorado

6 6 23 163 George Williams DT Notre Dame

7 7 9 177 Selwyn Jones DB Colorado State

8 9 9 233 Tim Hill DB Kansas

9 10 8 260 Marcus Lowe DT Baylor

10 11 9 289 Augustin Olobia WR Washington State

11 12 8 316 Keithen McCant QB Nebraska

12 12 21 329 Tim Simpson C Illinois

 

1991

1 1 2 2 Eric Turner DB UCLA

2 2 2 29 Ed King G Auburn

3 3 2 57 James Jones DT Northern Iowa

4 4 2 85 Pio Sagapulutele DT San Diego State

5 6 2 141 Michael Jackson WR Southern Mississippi

6 8 2 197 Frank Conover DT Syracuse

7 9 2 225 Raymond Irvin DB Central Florida

8 9 16 239 Shawn Wiggins WR Wyoming

9 10 2 252 Brian Greenfield P Pittsburgh

10 11 2 280 Todd Jones G Henderson State

11 12 2 308 Elijah Austin DT North Carolina State

 

1990

1 2 20 45 Leroy Hoard RB Michigan

2 3 20 73 Anthony Pleasant DE Tennessee State

3 4 20 101 Harlon Barnett DB Michigan State

4 5 20 129 Rob Burnett DE Syracuse

5 6 20 157 Randy Hilliard DB Northwestern State (LA)

6 7 13 178 Scott Galbraith TE USC

7 8 19 212 Jock Jones LB Virginia Tech

8 9 20 240 Eugene Rowell WR Southern Mississippi

9 10 20 268 Mike Wallace DB Jackson State

10 11 20 296 Clemente Gordon QB Grambling State

11 12 19 323 Kerry Simien WR Texas A&I

 

1989

1 1 13 13 Eric Metcalf RB Texas

2 2 3 31 Lawyer Tillman WR Auburn

3 4 23 107 Andrew Stewart DE Cincinnati

4 5 2 114 Kyle Kramer DB Bowling Green

5 5 4 116 Vernon Joines WR Maryland

6 6 21 160 Gary Wilkerson DB Penn State

7 7 20 187 Mike Graybill T Boston University

8 8 19 214 Rick Aeilts TE Southeast Missouri State

9 10 23 274 John Buddenberg T Akron

10 11 22 301 Dan Plocki K Maryland

11 12 21 328 Marlon Brown LB Memphis State

 

1988

1 1 21 21 Clifford Charlton LB Florida

2 2 23 50 Michael Dean Perry DT Clemson

3 3 22 77 Van Waiters LB Indiana

4 4 21 103 Anthony Blaylock DB Winston-Salem State

5 7 23 188 Thane Gash DB East Tennessee State

6 8 23 216 J.J. Birden WR Oregon

7 9 23 244 Danny Copeland DB Eastern Kentucky

8 10 23 272 Brian Washington DB Nebraska

9 11 23 300 Hendley Hawkins WR Nebraska

10 12 23 328 Steve Slayden QB Duke

 

1987

1 1 5 5 Mike Junkin LB Duke

2 2 4 32 Gregg Rakoczy C Miami (FL)

3 3 24 80 Tim Manoa RB Penn State

4 3 26 82 Jeff Jaeger K Washington

5 6 25 165 Stephen Braggs DB Texas

6 8 25 220 Steve Bullitt LB Texas A&M

7 10 25 276 Frank Winters C Western Illinois

8 11 24 303 Larry Brewton DB Temple

 

Browns 87-95

[hoorta]

Asomugah, Turner, and Metcalf in how many years? Gallery was drafted to be a stud LT, blew dead worms at the position, had to be moved to guard. Janikowski was a monumental reach in the first round. & like I said, Lombardi could just have been Al Davis' coffee fetcher, while senile Al made the picks.

 

ONE guy with HOF credentials (Namdi) in 19 seasons? No thank you.

 

How many monumental busts?

[Zombo]

I have bolded his "good" moves.

 

1999 to 2007 – Oakland Raiders: Hired by owner Al Davis to become Senior Personnel Executive working closely with the owner on all football matters. Liaison with head coach and owner; responsible for pro and college player evaluations; and handled veteran contracts.

 

2007

1 1 1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB Louisiana State

2 2 6 38 Zach Miller TE Arizona State

3 3 1 65 Quentin Moses DE Georgia

4 3 28 91 Mario Henderson T Florida State

5 3 36 99 Johnnie Lee Higgins WR Texas-El Paso

6 4 1 100 Michael Bush RB Louisville

7 4 11 110 John Bowie DB Cincinnati

8 5 1 138 Jay Richardson DE Ohio State

9 5 28 165 Eric Frampton DB Washington State

10 6 1 175 Oren O'Neal RB Arkansas State

11 7 44 254 Johnathan Holland WR Louisiana Tech

 

2006

1 1 7 7 Michael Huff DB Texas

2 2 6 38 Thomas Howard LB Texas-El Paso

3 3 5 69 Paul McQuistan G Weber State

4 4 4 101 Darnell Bing DB USC

5 6 7 176 Kevin Boothe T Cornell

6 7 6 214 Chris Morris C Michigan State

7 7 47 255 Kevin McMahan WR Maine

 

2005

1 1 23 23 Fabian Washington DB Nebraska

2 2 6 38 Stanford Routt DB Houston

3 3 5 69 Andrew Walter QB Arizona State

4 3 14 78 Kirk Morrison LB San Diego State

5 6 1 175 Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin

6 6 38 212 Ryan Riddle DE California

7 6 40 214 Pete McMahon T Iowa

 

2004

1 1 2 2 Robert Gallery T Iowa

2 2 13 45 Jake Grove C Virginia Tech

3 3 4 67 Stuart Schweigert DB Purdue

4 4 3 99 Carlos Francis WR Texas Tech

5 5 2 134 Johnnie Morant WR Syracuse

6 6 1 166 Shawn Johnson DE Delaware

7 6 17 182 Cody Spencer LB North Texas

8 7 44 245 Courtney Anderson TE San Jose State

9 7 54 255 Andre Sommersell LB Colorado State

 

2003

1 1 31 31 Nnamdi Asomugha DB California

2 1 32 32 Tyler Brayton DE Colorado

3 2 31 63 Teyo Johnson WR Stanford

4 3 19 83 Sam Williams LB Fresno State

5 3 32 96 Justin Fargas RB USC

6 4 32 129 Shurron Pierson DE South Florida

7 5 32 167 Doug Gabriel WR Central Florida

8 6 31 204 Dustin Rykert T Brigham Young

9 7 32 246 Siddeeq Shabazz DB New Mexico State

10 7 48 262 Ryan Hoag WR Gustavus Adolphus

 

2002

1 1 17 17 Phillip Buchanon DB Miami (FL)

2 1 23 23 Napoleon Harris LB Northwestern

3 2 21 53 Langston Walker T California

4 2 23 55 Doug Jolley TE Brigham Young

5 5 12 147 Kenyon Coleman DE UCLA

6 6 17 189 Keyon Nash DB Albany State

7 6 25 197 Larry Ned RB San Diego State

8 7 24 235 Ronald Curry QB North Carolina

 

2001

1 1 28 28 Derrick Gibson DB Florida State

2 2 28 59 Marques Tuiasosopo QB Washington

3 3 27 89 DeLawrence Grant DE Oregon State

4 5 27 158 Raymond Perryman DB Northern Arizona

5 6 21 184 Chris Cooper DE Nebraska-Omaha

6 7 28 228 Derek Combs RB Ohio State

7 7 29 229 Ken-Yon Rambo WR Ohio State

 

2000

1 1 17 17 Sebastian Janikowski K Florida State

2 2 16 47 Jerry Porter WR West Virginia

3 4 13 107 Junior Ioane DT Arizona State

4 5 13 142 Shane Lechler P Texas A&M

5 7 21 227 Mondriel Fulcher RB Miami (FL)

6 7 25 231 Clifton Black DB Southwest Texas State

 

1999

1 1 18 18 Matt Stinchcomb T Georgia

2 2 9 40 Tony Bryant DE Florida State

3 4 7 102 Dameane Douglas WR California

4 5 13 146 Eric Barton LB Maryland

5 5 20 153 Roderick Coleman DE East Carolina

6 6 19 188 Daren Yancey DT Brigham Young

7 7 18 224 JoJuan Armour LB Miami (OH)

 

raiders 99-07

 

 

1998 – Philadelphia Eagles: Promoted to Director of Pro Personnel after serving as a consultant to team owner Jeffrey Lurie in 1997. Managed the professional personnel department and advised owner and chief financial officer on all player contracts and salary cap issues.

 

 

1998

1 1 11 11 Tra Thomas T Florida State

2 3 11 72 Jeremiah Trotter LB Stephen F. Austin

3 3 24 85 Allen Rossum DB Notre Dame

4 4 20 112 Brandon Whiting DT California

5 4 24 116 Clarence Love DB Toledo

6 5 19 142 Ike Reese LB Michigan State

7 7 31 220 Chris Akins DT Texas

8 7 51 240 Melvin Thomas G Colorado

 

eagles1998

 

 

1996 – St. Louis Rams: Prepared advisory reports for ownership during head coach search.

 

Did not participate in the draft, per wiki.

 

 

1987 to 1996 – Cleveland Browns: Joined team as Pro Personnel Director in 1987. Promoted to Director of Player Personnel in 1992 where he worked under head coach Bill Belichick and was responsible for all college and pro personnel decisions; managed salary cap and player personnel issues; oversaw staff of 13 college and pro scouts; handled all player contracts and advised head coach on all football matters.

 

 

1995

1 1 30 30 Craig Powell LB Ohio State

2 3 20 84 Eric Zeier QB Georgia

3 3 30 94 Mike Frederick DE Virginia

4 5 2 136 Tau Pupua DT Weber State

5 5 13 147 Mike Miller WR Notre Dame

6 7 23 231 A.C. Tellison WR Miami (FL)

 

1994

1 1 9 9 Antonio Langham DB Alabama

2 1 29 29 Derrick Alexander WR Michigan

3 3 10 75 Romeo Bandison DT Oregon

4 5 10 141 Isaac Booth DB California

5 6 10 171 Robert Strait RB Baylor

6 7 9 203 Andre Hewitt T Clemson

 

1993

1 1 14 14 Steve Everitt C Michigan

2 2 13 42 Dan Footman DE Florida State

3 3 27 83 Mike Caldwell LB Middle Tennessee State

4 5 12 124 Herman Arvie T Grambling State

5 6 13 153 Rich McKenzie LB Penn State

6 7 12 180 Travis Hill LB Nebraska

 

1992

1 1 9 9 Tommy Vardell RB Stanford

2 2 24 52 Patrick Rowe WR San Diego State

3 3 9 65 Bill Johnson DT Michigan State

4 3 22 78 Gerald Dixon LB South Carolina

5 6 3 143 Rico Smith WR Colorado

6 6 23 163 George Williams DT Notre Dame

7 7 9 177 Selwyn Jones DB Colorado State

8 9 9 233 Tim Hill DB Kansas

9 10 8 260 Marcus Lowe DT Baylor

10 11 9 289 Augustin Olobia WR Washington State

11 12 8 316 Keithen McCant QB Nebraska

12 12 21 329 Tim Simpson C Illinois

 

1991

1 1 2 2 Eric Turner DB UCLA

2 2 2 29 Ed King G Auburn

3 3 2 57 James Jones DT Northern Iowa

4 4 2 85 Pio Sagapulutele DT San Diego State

5 6 2 141 Michael Jackson WR Southern Mississippi

6 8 2 197 Frank Conover DT Syracuse

7 9 2 225 Raymond Irvin DB Central Florida

8 9 16 239 Shawn Wiggins WR Wyoming

9 10 2 252 Brian Greenfield P Pittsburgh

10 11 2 280 Todd Jones G Henderson State

11 12 2 308 Elijah Austin DT North Carolina State

 

1990

1 2 20 45 Leroy Hoard RB Michigan

2 3 20 73 Anthony Pleasant DE Tennessee State

3 4 20 101 Harlon Barnett DB Michigan State

4 5 20 129 Rob Burnett DE Syracuse

5 6 20 157 Randy Hilliard DB Northwestern State (LA)

6 7 13 178 Scott Galbraith TE USC

7 8 19 212 Jock Jones LB Virginia Tech

8 9 20 240 Eugene Rowell WR Southern Mississippi

9 10 20 268 Mike Wallace DB Jackson State

10 11 20 296 Clemente Gordon QB Grambling State

11 12 19 323 Kerry Simien WR Texas A&I

 

1989

1 1 13 13 Eric Metcalf RB Texas

2 2 3 31 Lawyer Tillman WR Auburn

3 4 23 107 Andrew Stewart DE Cincinnati

4 5 2 114 Kyle Kramer DB Bowling Green

5 5 4 116 Vernon Joines WR Maryland

6 6 21 160 Gary Wilkerson DB Penn State

7 7 20 187 Mike Graybill T Boston University

8 8 19 214 Rick Aeilts TE Southeast Missouri State

9 10 23 274 John Buddenberg T Akron

10 11 22 301 Dan Plocki K Maryland

11 12 21 328 Marlon Brown LB Memphis State

 

1988

1 1 21 21 Clifford Charlton LB Florida

2 2 23 50 Michael Dean Perry DT Clemson

3 3 22 77 Van Waiters LB Indiana

4 4 21 103 Anthony Blaylock DB Winston-Salem State

5 7 23 188 Thane Gash DB East Tennessee State

6 8 23 216 J.J. Birden WR Oregon

7 9 23 244 Danny Copeland DB Eastern Kentucky

8 10 23 272 Brian Washington DB Nebraska

9 11 23 300 Hendley Hawkins WR Nebraska

10 12 23 328 Steve Slayden QB Duke

 

1987

1 1 5 5 Mike Junkin LB Duke

2 2 4 32 Gregg Rakoczy C Miami (FL)

3 3 24 80 Tim Manoa RB Penn State

4 3 26 82 Jeff Jaeger K Washington

5 6 25 165 Stephen Braggs DB Texas

6 8 25 220 Steve Bullitt LB Texas A&M

7 10 25 276 Frank Winters C Western Illinois

8 11 24 303 Larry Brewton DB Temple

 

Browns 87-95

 

Ummm. You have Robert Gallery in bold.

 

He was drafted second overall as a tackle and he became a mediocre guard that never made one pro bowl.

 

That's a bust at #2.

 

Zombo

[TheClevelandSound]

Ummm. You have Robert Gallery in bold.

 

He was drafted second overall as a tackle and he became a mediocre guard that never made one pro bowl.

 

That's a bust at #2.

 

Zombo

 

My fault. I thought he was decent.

[tampadawgs]

If someone wants to look this up because I do not, I called this at the beginning of the year!!!! Lombardi becoming the GM is not a big deal because Saban will have all the player calls. I think Nick Saban would be a great coach. We have his fullback and Runningback already in Cleveland. Saban is a big Defense guy..

 

What Cleveland likes

 

Nasty defense and a Nasty run offense..SABAN perfect for the Browns....

 

There is no way Shurmer stays....Really our only good win is against Cincy.....

 

San Diego Sucks

Pittsburgh Sucks without Big Ben, Palomalo, harrison, Clark

Oakland really

Kansas City Really

 

What will cost Shurmer his job is the Philly, Indy, Balt, NY, Dallas games all games where we should or could have won. Getting Shurmered is not a good thing. Shit Shurmer tried to lose the Oakland game too

[USFBrown]

If someone wants to look this up because I do not, I called this at the beginning of the year!!!! Lombardi becoming the GM is not a big deal because Saban will have all the player calls. I think Nick Saban would be a great coach. We have his fullback and Runningback already in Cleveland. Saban is a big Defense guy..

 

What Cleveland likes

 

Nasty defense and a Nasty run offense..SABAN perfect for the Browns....

 

There is no way Shurmer stays....Really our only good win is against Cincy.....

 

San Diego Sucks

Pittsburgh Sucks without Big Ben, Palomalo, harrison, Clark

Oakland really

Kansas City Really

 

What will cost Shurmer his job is the Philly, Indy, Balt, NY, Dallas games all games where we should or could have won. Getting Shurmered is not a good thing. Shit Shurmer tried to lose the Oakland game too

 

I'm not sold or even on the wagon with Patty boy yet. I'm glad the team is learning to win and from last game, don't let up. But let's be real, the teams we beat stink. I'll have some faith on Pansy boy if we put up a good showing the last games.

[VaporTrail]

Who were the players he missed out on? I thought they showed an infographic during the Browns/Raiders game.

[The Gipper]

Why the hell would Saban leave when he's the top dawg in college football? Why come here with the added stress and lack of recruiting advantage. Some coaches are just college coaches and Saban is one of them.

 

No, I disagree. Saban, I believe, at heart is an NFL coach.

 

Why should he leave college football? Because he is bored there...and if he stays...as I have said before, he should just announce his retirement.

[hoorta]

If someone wants to look this up because I do not, I called this at the beginning of the year!!!! Lombardi becoming the GM is not a big deal because Saban will have all the player calls. I think Nick Saban would be a great coach. We have his fullback and Runningback already in Cleveland. Saban is a big Defense guy..

 

What Cleveland likes

 

Nasty defense and a Nasty run offense..SABAN perfect for the Browns....

 

There is no way Shurmer stays....Really our only good win is against Cincy.....

 

San Diego Sucks

Pittsburgh Sucks without Big Ben, Palomalo, harrison, Clark

Oakland really

Kansas City Really

 

What will cost Shurmer his job is the Philly, Indy, Balt, NY, Dallas games all games where we should or could have won. Getting Shurmered is not a good thing. Shit Shurmer tried to lose the Oakland game too

 

Actually, bringing back Lombardi would be monumentally stupid. Much worse than the Walrus bringing in Patsy. Shurmur only failed once as an OC before Holmgren brought him in. Lombardi has an unabated record of failure. Puke- giving a job to one of your pals that doesn't deserve it by a long shot Joe? I'd perefer NO ONE instead. Sheeze, the season ain't over- yet. Patsy wins 2 out of 3 and my bet is he earns another year.

 

Plus, Saban has flopped once as an NFL HC- no guarantee he'd be any better the second time around.

As to the HC making the player calls with a doofus GM- I have two words for you BUTCH DAVIS. So how did that turn out?

[Polesmoker]

Actually, bringing back Lombardi would be monumentally stupid. Much worse than the Walrus bringing in Patsy. Shurmur only failed once as an OC before Holmgren brought him in. Lombardi has an unabated record of failure. Puke- giving a job to one of your pals that doesn't deserve it by a long shot Joe? I'd perefer NO ONE instead. Sheeze, the season ain't over- yet. Patsy wins 2 out of 3 and my bet is he earns another year.

 

Plus, Saban has flopped once as an NFL HC- no guarantee he'd be any better the second time around.

 

Its really surprising the Shitstains are making bad moves. , but everything's different this time. Huh Yuck Yuck.

[hoorta]

Its really surprising the Shitstains are making bad moves. , but everything's different this time. Huh Yuck Yuck.

 

Unless you have a functional crystal ball, STFU.

[The Gipper]

Its really surprising the Shitstains are making bad moves. , but everything's different this time. Huh Yuck Yuck.

 

Is this truly all you have to contribute? I mean, the vacuous intellectual level of certain Steeler trolls is smoetime laughable.

 

There are some really decent ones....Endymion e.g.

 

There is Vagitron who is not a totally unfortunate fool...he just often lives up to his name.

Maybe a few others.

 

Then there are the hordes of troglodytes and Simians like you....who are essentially characters from a Stanley Kubrick movie:

 

[Kosar_For_President]

I'm going to be pissed if Heckert is let go. PISSED.

[The Gipper]

Who needs that when you have the Cleveland Shitballs?

 

But this time is different right? Huh Yuck Yuck

 

Put your money on the table pussy boy. Or shut feckless fuck mouth up.

[MDDawg]

My concern about Saban is that he's a 3-4 guy which our personnel is not currently equipped for. If we switch this off-season our defense will suck for at least 2 yrs.

[miktoxic]

any switch would be a mistake IMO. these guys look confident and are playing well (albeit we beat the worse team in the league BUT hey maybe that's what they thought about us...).

 

heckert is head and shoulder above lombardi and saban..? well, no.

[USFBrown]

Do you have an NCAA trophy stuck up your ass? Cleveland is the most storied town in all of pro football. WHy would he leave Alabama? Same reason we would drop your wife in a NY pork minute to go chase Jennifer Anniston.

 

BIG UPGRADE

 

That's your opinion, which is in sharp contrast to the rest of the football fans about Cleveland being A "big upgrade" for saban than bama. We'll see when the time comes

 

Why the fuck would you guys want him anyways? He wants toughness from his players but when things get tough for him he bails. He sucked as an NFL coach. Maybe he'd be the next Bill B but I don't want a liar who can't stand the heat coaching my team.

[The Gipper]

That's your opinion, which is in sharp contrast to the rest of the football fans about Cleveland being A "big upgrade" for saban than bama. We'll see when the time comes

 

Why the fuck would you guys want him anyways? He wants toughness from his players but when things get tough for him he bails. He sucked as an NFL coach. Maybe he'd be the next Bill B but I don't want a liar who can't stand the heat coaching my team.

 

 

OK, you bring up a legitimate concern. That is: if he took the job and didn't contend for the first couple of years that he would bail out and go back to some college gig.

 

What I couldn't fathom is that he wouldn't at least be in playoff contention with the talent now on this team.

If he really did fail to contend in his first two years here then he probably isn't cut out for the NFL....and then he could probably go and take the Auburn job which would probably be opening up right around then.

[darubes]

Lombardi is a joke. Big downgrade over Heckert. Saban is 61 years old now and will be

62 next year. How many years does he have left? I don't see the Browns taking either

one of these guys especially Lombardi. I've already called and e-mailed the Browns

about my opinion concerning the rumors concerning Lombardi.

[USFBrown]

OK, you bring up a legitimate concern. That is: if he took the job and didn't contend for the first couple of years that he would bail out and go back to some college gig.

 

What I couldn't fathom is that he wouldn't at least be in playoff contention with the talent now on this team.

If he really did fail to contend in his first two years here then he probably isn't cut out for the NFL....and then he could probably go and take the Auburn job which would probably be opening up right around then.

 

How are we in playoff contention? I am excited we won the last 3 games, but we haven't beaten a play off caliber team yet. We beat the Raider (TERRIBLE), the Chiefs (TERRIBLE-ER), and the Steelers (without Ben, +8 turn overs, and the Steelers may not even make the playoffs).

 

Listen, I love the Browns as much as the next guy on here. But sometimes you need to take the Brown colored glasses off. Yea the team has talent now and potential, but they haven't beaten any team worth a damn. They have beaten bad teams, which is an improvement from Browns of the past. But before I say they are playoff contenders, I want to see a win over a real playoff contender.

[The Gipper]

How are we in playoff contention? I am excited we won the last 3 games, but we haven't beaten a play off caliber team yet. We beat the Raider (TERRIBLE), the Chiefs (TERRIBLE-ER), and the Steelers (without Ben, +8 turn overs, and the Steelers may not even make the playoffs).

 

Listen, I love the Browns as much as the next guy on here. But sometimes you need to take the Brown colored glasses off. Yea the team has talent now and potential, but they haven't beaten any team worth a damn. They have beaten bad teams, which is an improvement from Browns of the past. But before I say they are playoff contenders, I want to see a win over a real playoff contender.

 

 

Next year I fully would expect whomever the coach is here, Shurmur, Saban, McDaniels, Peewee Herman, Tooney Lucas, Humbo Nooney to have the Browns in playoff contention.

 

Also, the Browns beat the steelers. Are you saying the Steelers are not playoff contenders? If the playoffs started today they would be in. And the Browns beat the Bengals. Are you saying they are not playoff contenders? They certainly are.

The Browns lost close games to the Ravens, and the Cowboys, and the Bengals and others.

With another year under their belts the bushel basket of first and second year players on this team should all be better next year.....and the Browns could very well be augmented with some decent draft picks...and maybe even a couple of free agents.

No....next year the Browns WILL be considered contenders. If they flop...then they will be flops.

Right here, right now I believe that all 4 teams in the AFCN are operating at parity. The Browns young team had a learning curve the first half of the season, but today they can play with the Ravens/Bengals/Steelers without much doubt.

[ballpeen]

I agree Gip, we should contend next year. We have a young group who will have played and won some games.

 

 

We may not make them, but we should be in it late for some realistic shot at a wildcard position....I say realistic since at this point we still have a shot this year, though most reasonable people know that shot is going to close, one way or the other, in a week or two.

 

 

I think Jimmy got this club at a good point, and if there is a new coach, he will as well. I think the guys we have are close to making a statement.

 

New "oomph" from a engaged owner who is smart and wanting to bring a bit of the college atmosphere to the team ( a good thing IMO), and possibly a new coach, and I see good things.

 

 

Even if Pat remains, I see good things. We have seen in just a couple of weeks what a owner who cares about product and investment can bring. It's one more level that can bring up the performance of both the players and the coach.

 

 

Homie didn't care the full monty, he didn't have money invested. Heck, Randy didn't care, he inherited the team. His families money had grown at a nice percentage.....700 M to 1 Billion or better....he still has a 30% stake for 4-5 years...J Haslam and family have a billion in it and need to turn it in to 1.5.....he cares what happens, so in turn, he's going to press a few buttons if he doesn't like that is happening.

 

 

I like it.

 

 

It may turn out Haslam sucks at deciding on what to do in regard to a NFL team, but in the end you have to give him credit because he has a sizable sum of his money invested in the team, so at minimum, you know he gave it his best shot and cared about the outcome.

 

 

I have never met the man, though that is on a short list for me as I do know people who know him well, and none have ever told me the guy isn't bright.

 

 

All have told me he is as sharp as a tack.

[kbndawg]

Why the hell would Saban leave when he's the top dawg in college football? Why come here with the added stress and lack of recruiting advantage. Some coaches are just college coaches and Saban is one of them.

 

Honestly, he has more "stress" on him at Alabama than he would ever experience in Cleveland. He would leave Alabama for Cleveland to escape the stress.

[Browns149]

Honestly, he has more "stress" on him at Alabama than he would ever experience in Cleveland. He would leave Alabama for Cleveland to escape the stress.

You are correct. The stress at Alabama is WAY WAY WAY higher then ANY NFL team. In college 2 losses and your season is over. Plus in college, once you get to your conference schedule. Almost every game is a rivalry game. Some are bigger rivalries then others, but alomst every week the teams are playing for some sort of trophy, or bragging rights. Where in the NFL you have 3 division rivals and maybe 1 or 2 other rivalries.