SnugglyBottoms Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 So could anybody else. here ya go, dick sir http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001477/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 I believe Te'o can play any lb position...according to this guy on draftek.com..... ":LB Manti Te'o just won the prestigious Lombardi Award as the best lineman or linebacker in the nation. This Saturday night, Te'o has a very good chance of being the very first true defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy. Sure, Charles Woodson was an elite defensive player, but he was also used as a wide receiver and return specialist. Te'o's season can best be summed up here. Te'o, the Hawaiian Mormon, will lead a Catholic university's top scoring defense in the BCS National Championship Game. For those who believe that he's an ILB only, most analysts agree that he would also play at an All-Pro level at SOLB, or SAM LB. Te'o is a community activist whose leadership and character "intangibles" are off the charts. The Browns need for a pass rushing DE can be addressed in free agency, or in the third round. For this analyst, Manti Te'o is the closest thing to a "can't miss" prospect in the draft. ~Mike Sudds, DraftTek Browns Analyst " Te'o make end up being the first consensus pick for the 1st round pick ever. (still plenty of time....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Id say the only way we can justify taking a guard is with a trade down to recoup the sec:nd round pick. No doubt Lauvou needs replaced one way or another but there is no guard valuable enough to take top 15. I like Banks, Te'O, Jones, and Moore. Rambo or Simon in the 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b86b Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Are we now looking at Geno, Matt or Tyler Wilson with that first pick??? Weeden doesn't look like the future and GM/HC usually want their own guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw220 Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 I am all for the Browns picking whoever they thing will bring the most value to the team in the long term. If it is an OG, so be it. I am not sure how everyone became so LB crazy. I still firmly believe that our biggest need is CB. Joe Haden is playing great and Sheldon Brown is balling, but Sheldon only has a couple of more years left and after him we are woefully thin. I also think DE is a bigger need than LB. Rucker and Parker are good stopgaps, but not long term solutions. To be honest, I would rather trade back a little and grab a boss TE then go LB at this point. Gocong is coming back and is better than he gets credit for (especially in run stopping) and JMJ looks to be a legit talent. Anyways, as far as the draft goes, for the time being the only thing that is more interesting to me than what we do with our first pick is who is going to be making the call in the war room. Heckert came out and tried to stake his claim with this team today. Hopefully the Brownies can get at least two more wins and back him up on the field. Did I just read that Sheldon Brown is balling?? He is a huge liability in coverage and is the reason why Haden is so important..Remember when Haden was out we went 0-5 thats why i feel CB is a bigger need than DE..But other than Dee Milliner i dont know who else i would take there where we should be drafting..I like the depth at DE in this Class so thats where i would probaly go in Round 1,D.Moore i like most but i do believe he will go top 5.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInNYC Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Did I just read that Sheldon Brown is balling?? He is a huge liability in coverage and is the reason why Haden is so important..Remember when Haden was out we went 0-5 thats why i feel CB is a bigger need than DE..But other than Dee Milliner i dont know who else i would take there where we should be drafting..I like the depth at DE in this Class so thats where i would probaly go in Round 1,D.Moore i like most but i do believe he will go top 5.. One bad game and all of a sudden he is terrible. OK. Have you not noticed how well he has been playing (with the exception of the Dallas game where Haden was out) since the bye? Browns fans have too short of a memory, especially when it comes to giving their own players a little bit of credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I am all for the Browns picking whoever they thing will bring the most value to the team in the long term. If it is an OG, so be it. I am not sure how everyone became so LB crazy. I still firmly believe that our biggest need is CB. Joe Haden is playing great and Sheldon Brown is balling, but Sheldon only has a couple of more years left and after him we are woefully thin. I also think DE is a bigger need than LB. Rucker and Parker are good stopgaps, but not long term solutions. To be honest, I would rather trade back a little and grab a boss TE then go LB at this point. Gocong is coming back and is better than he gets credit for (especially in run stopping) and JMJ looks to be a legit talent. Anyways, as far as the draft goes, for the time being the only thing that is more interesting to me than what we do with our first pick is who is going to be making the call in the war room. Heckert came out and tried to stake his claim with this team today. Hopefully the Brownies can get at least two more wins and back him up on the field. Why are we Linebacker crazy? Let me count the ways: 1. Because OLB is the weakest position on the team. JMJ is the only real prospect it seems. I don't believe Gocong will be back, and even if he is, he ain't very good. Maiava is at best a backup. And Robertson is come see come saw....or however it is spelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Are we now looking at Geno, Matt or Tyler Wilson with that first pick??? Weeden doesn't look like the future and GM/HC usually want their own guys Hell no. We already have Matt Barkley on the roster....i.e. Colt McCoy...ecept McCoy is better. Weeden is the QB. The Browns should be going defense with at least their first two picks. LB and either CB or FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Hell no. We already have Matt Barkley on the roster....i.e. Colt McCoy...ecept McCoy is better. Weeden is the QB. The Browns should be going defense with at least their first two picks. LB and either CB or FS. Barkley does remind me of Colt. Noodle arm anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 here ya go, dick sir http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001477/ Doesn't change what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnugglyBottoms Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Here are some guys on my radar, so far Dee Milliner - This would be a GREAT pick, stop the Buster Skrine targeting. Damontre Moore - Pass rush, nuff said. Barkevious Mingo - ^^ Keenan Allen - Gordon, Allen, Little great receiving group. Eric Reid/ Matt Elam - Someone downfield to help the pass defense. Chance Warmack - Someone to help Trent I would love to see the browns trade down, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Here are some guys on my radar, so far Dee Milliner - This would be a GREAT pick, stop the Buster Skrine targeting. Damontre Moore - Pass rush, nuff said. Barkevious Mingo - ^^ Keenan Allen - Gordon, Allen, Little great receiving group. Eric Reid/ Matt Elam - Someone downfield to help the pass defense. Chance Warmack - Someone to help Trent I would love to see the browns trade down, actually. I think trading down makes alot of sense. We could trade down from 5-7 to 15-20, recoup our 2nd rounder and add a 4th-6th rounder. Which means we could grab Warmack, Eric Reid or Rambo in the 2nd, and a Brandon Jenkins/John Simon/Tank Carradine in the 3rd. I believe if we're active in FA this year and bring in a CB and a FB were playoff bound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnugglyBottoms Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 ^^^ yeah boy! nobody at the top of the draft that really sticks out, might as well patch some of the many holes on this swiss cheese defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk2072 Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Drafting a Guard in the first round will win us exactly zero games more next year (and every year after that) then not drafting anyone at all. Take one of the pass rushing LBs/DEs, Teo, or Millner, please. I don't care if Bill Belicheck, Jimmy Johnson, and Bill Walsh were all hired as scouts for the Browns next year and they all thought the best pick was Womack, I still wouldn't take him. Its the Joe Thomas over AP syndrome. Great, we have the best LT in the world. Having him over the 15th best LT in the world wins us roughly zero extra games per year. You don't think Minnesota would laugh us out of the midwest if we proposed a Thomas/Richardson for AP/Kalil trade? Meanwhile, teams that win games draft play makers on both sides of the ball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 ^^^ yeah boy! nobody at the top of the draft that really sticks out, might as well patch some of the many holes on this swiss cheese defense MHO is the Browns will almost certainly go D with the first pick. Either OLB or CB. I'm not buying the Sheldon Brown apologist BS the guy got beat by Peyton Manning on perfect throws. He lucked out not getting burned on another TD lying flat on his ass while Manning overthrew the intended receiver. He gets picked on mercilessly, I'd bet 90% of the big plays the Browns D have given up were his responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempman Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 It will probably be LB with the move back to the 3-4. Sheard will be gone and DQ should be as well(didn't fit that system well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hate Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 yeah not sure why you would select a guard that high when you could trade down, get a 2nd rounder and still get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 yeah not sure why you would select a guard that high when you could trade down, get a 2nd rounder and still get him. Its the Browns, when have we ever done the right thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnugglyBottoms Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 DO NOT SWITCH BACK TO 3-4 If they did the whole trade down technique they could really add some depth on defense Jordan Poyer - CB Oregon State TJ McDonald - S USC Corey Lemonier - DE/OLB Auburn Chase Thomas - DE/OLB Stanford Bacarri Rambo - S Georgia Sean Porter - DE/OLB Texas A&M Justin Gilbert - CB Oklahoma State All second-third round guys there, and the browns could trade down and address CB, OLB/DE, and S in one draft D-Line - Sheard/Rubin/Taylor/Rucker/Winn/Hughes LB's - Thomas/Jackson/Porter CB - Poyer, Haden S - Ward, Rambo What's not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 well it looks like heckert will be gone. and if it's lombardi coming in he'll draft a (supposedly=hopefully) impact player which will be LB jones. if we can somehow package some picks and a trade of maybe hardesty and mccoy to move back up and get the OG or CB we should do it. BTW sheldon brown should be moving to safety next year so look for us to be picking a CB somewhere this upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 This isn't the first time I've heard this S Brown moved to safety thing. Is he really safety material? He is getting slower, and does not tackle with power like you would have in a safety. I don't know that he will be here next year, if he is, I definitely don't see him as a safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hate Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 This isn't the first time I've heard this S Brown moved to safety thing. Is he really safety material? He is getting slower, and does not tackle with power like you would have in a safety. I don't know that he will be here next year, if he is, I definitely don't see him as a safety Ronde Barber is doing fine at safety and he is not the tackler he once was. I think Brown would be fine at safety, if he isn't willing to switch, cut him. He is too slow for CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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