tampadawgs Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Joe Thomas who is going to his 6th Pro Bowl is now third on the all time Browns List for most Pro Bowls Jim Brown 9 Lou Groza 9 Joe Thomas 6 Dick Schafrath 6 Leroy Kelly 6 Gene Hickerson 6 It was a great draft pick if AP was not sitting there for us to take. If AP was not in that draft class. NOBODY WOULD EVER BITCH ABOUT BIG JOE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I am sure alot of these hindsight guys were also saying in 2007 that AP is not durable and injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Daddy Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Everyone bitching about the 07 draft like we took Jamarcus Russell. Chill the fuck out. WE GOT A HALL OF FAMER IN THAT DRAFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Everyone bitching about the 07 draft like we took Jamarcus Russell. Chill the fuck out. WE GOT A HALL OF FAMER IN THAT DRAFT. For sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 How many Pro Bowls has Peyton Hills made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 What rich is saying is a very valid point. AP coming out of college had broken his collarbone and ankle? Or something like that. Everyone knew the guy was going to be great if healthy but we decided to go with the safe pick. AP would have been a stronger pick but joe Thomas is a hall of famer. Honestly, looking back I would have taken joe Thomas 10 out of 10 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 In addition, take Joe Thomas off our line, insert AP into the backfield & what happens? More likely than not he wouldn't be as healthy or productive as he is today. IMHO, Joe was & has been the smart pick. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 shoulda coulda woulda. this is a moot point. what's done is done. i could still be bitching about our 1st round draft picks from last year. BUT WTF good is it doing anybody? STFU already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hate Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Yeah lets pick out our best draft pick and bitch about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dab7291993 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I would never bitch about that draft. Wasn't even mad about taking Quinn, as we weren't picking him to start right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampadawgs Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I for one will be the first to say that I was pissed when we didnt draft AP. I just didnt know a lot about Thomas. fast forward to now and it was a great pick Looking back at it you have 2nd pick Megatron- HOF Might end up being best WR in the History in the NFL 3rd pick Joe Thomas could end up with 10 Pro Bowls and HOF 7th pick Peterson- almost 9000 yards rushing, HOF and will end up being a top 5 back in NFL history 12th pick M Lynch 6142 yards 42 TDs STUD 23rd pick D Bowe- What if he had a QB Thats it for Offense in the draft in 07 that is worth anything. We had no chance at Megatron and Lynch and Bowe would have been a reach with the third pick.....This post is about the morons waqnting us to trade Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Who ever says anything bad about this pick doesn't know shit about football. Step away from the keyboard and go play Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Who ever says anything bad about this pick doesn't know shit about football. Step away from the keyboard and go play Madden. exactly! how would AP run behind our line (back then)? Line play on both sides of the ball is where it all starts! BTW- did you ever see how much time the line typically gave Weeden to check all recievers .... and he stilll threw picks??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 exactly! how would AP run behind our line (back then)? Line play on both sides of the ball is where it all starts! BTW- did you ever see how much time the line typically gave Weeden to check all recievers .... and he stilll threw picks??? Imagine Brady or Manning with our line and WR for that matter. We would be in the Playoffs. I know he's a rookie, but that excuse will go out the window week 1 next year. Haslem, please sign Lovie Smith. Everyone on the Bears loved that dude and gave it their all (except for Culter, who is the biggest bitch in the NFL). Hester is thinking about retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Imagine Brady or Manning with our line and WR for that matter. We would be in the Playoffs. I know he's a rookie, but that excuse will go out the window week 1 next year. Haslem, please sign Lovie Smith. Everyone on the Bears loved that dude and gave it their all (except for Culter, who is the biggest bitch in the NFL). Hester is thinking about retiring. Smith would be a good choice but he got canned for never being able to produce a legitimate offense and I think we need a guy more offensive minded. As for Chip Kelly, I'd be surprised if this zone-read whatever the fuck it is thing he does lasts in the NFL for very long and the QBs that run it will last even less. And why would we even need Chip Kelly if that's the direction they want to go. Any innovative coach can implement parts of the college games offense into their scheme, it's not like it's a system reserved strictly for college coaches to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Smith would be a good choice but he got canned for never being able to produce a legitimate offense and I think we need a guy more offensive minded. As for Chip Kelly, I'd be surprised if this zone-read whatever the fuck it is thing he does lasts in the NFL for very long and the QBs that run it will last even less. And why would we even need Chip Kelly if that's the direction they want to go. Any innovative coach can implement parts of the college games offense into their scheme, it's not like it's a system reserved strictly for college coaches to use. zone blocking is used on teams where Shanahan is or was.... He used it in Denver, ( Kubiak probably brought to Houston) and now in Washington DC. All his RB's had alot of success with it. Not sure if Kellys creative offense is any different or just a typical hybrid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I think maybe you are confusing zone read and zone blocking. Afaik zone read is a spread,option type offense and zone blocking is offensive lineman blocking a designated zone rather than man 2 man. I'm all for zone blocking, I'm a big fan and yep it turns water into wine as far as running backs are concerned. Rick Dennison, OC of the Texans is a guy I would think should be a HC candidate but I guess maybe he just isn't HC material. He worked his way up in Denver under Shannahan,Kubiak and Alex Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 thx for clearing that up for me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Italian DawgPound Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Is there really anybody out there criticising the use of our first pick for a sure HOF in that draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dab7291993 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yeah we can't run for shit because of our left tackle...hmm..when we had Steinbach and Vickers we somehow made the piece of shit that was Peyton Hillis look like a pro-bowler..but let's blame our LT when we have shit at the guard positions and FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowburn Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Joe Thomas... HOF? LMAO. Funniest fucking thing on this board, yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PR_rzF8ofw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Steve Hutchinson was a firstteam AllPro G until Kalil was drafted. Minnesota in 2009 had 10 pro bowlers and 4 all-pros, both league highs. Good teams are always built inside-out, especially today where OL/DL/QB are always the key for winning teams. If skill players win, the Cowboys would be going for their third straight SB title this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Joe Thomas blows.. Wow you're dumb and an asshole. You win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 LMAO oh yeah, man, the Vikings OL is LOADED with great, HOF type picks. LMAO. The RB, WRs and QB make the line. Actually, YES, the Viking OL is Loaded....in fact, their RT is a guy named Loadholt...and he is a load....and outstanding player. And note....the Vikings used their #3 overall pick on a LT name Ryan Kalil....and he has made a big difference with AP running the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Actually, YES, the Viking OL is Loaded....in fact, their RT is a guy named Loadholt...and he is a load....and outstanding player. And note....the Vikings used their #3 overall pick on a LT name Ryan Kalil....and he has made a big difference with AP running the ball. Thanks for pointing that out to Ghoolie regarding the Vikings. Kalil was drafted high first round, their OL is loaded with top performers. You're never going to get it through Ghoolie thick head LT is generally considered the 3rd most important position on the team- because he protects a right handed qb from getting blindsided. Stud LTs get drafted high EVERY freaking year. Like I told Ritchie-poo in another thread- you think Rotlisbooger will last much longer playing behind a crap offensive line? BTW, there goes his argument. Rothlisbooger, Mendenhall, Wallace. All top "skill" players. All sitting at home watching the playoffs. And what's the primary reason for that? The Steeler offensive line sucked. It's the same reason- due to about a bazillion OL injuries, the Eagles stunk it up- even with "skill" Pro Bowlers like Macklin and Lesean McCoy who couldn't do squat. Cost Reid his job, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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