tampadawgs Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 10-Marques Colston, WR, New Orleans Saints The big receiver was supposed to be too slow, yet all he has done since being selected in the seventh round in 2006 is score 40 touchdowns and become one of the better young receivers in the league. Colston has proved you don’t have to post a great 40-yard dash time to become a good receiver 9-T.J. Houshmandzadeh, WR, Cincinnati Bengals When the Bengals selected him in the seventh round in 2001, much of the attention was focused on his former college teammate, Chud Ochocinco, who was selected in the second round by Cincinnati. But Houshmandzadeh wound up making the roster that year. He caught 31 touchdowns and posted 506 receptions during his eight seasons with the Bengals. 8-Jamal Anderson, RB, Atlanta Falcons A seventh-round pick in the 1994 draft, he didn’t do much in his first few seasons but wound up winning the starting job in Year 3. Anderson went on to score 34 touchdowns on the ground and ran for over 5,300 yards during his eight-year career 7-Terrell Davis, RB, Denver Broncos When the Broncos selected Davis in the sixth round in 1995, not much was expected since he wasn’t known for possessing ideal speed for the position. But Davis wound up winning the starting running back job that season and went on to post 60 touchdowns and over 7,600 yards on the ground during his seven-year career 6-Will Shields, G, Kansas City Chiefs Shields will go down as one of the best third-round picks in the past 25 years or so. The interior offensive lineman didn’t miss a game in his 14-year career and started all but one after being drafted in 1993. He’s a lock to make the Pro Football Hall of Fame 5-Ronde Barber, CB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers The veteran defensive back has sustained unbelievable durability and a high level of play since he was selected in the third round in 1997. Barber, who recently signed a one-year deal to remain with the Buccaneers, has started an incredible 183 straight games 4-Zach Thomas, LB, Miami Dolphins This fifth-round pick in the 1996 draft not only wound up making the roster coming out of the preseason that year but won a starting job. He was one of the best inside linebackers on any team during his 13-year 3-Thurman Thomas, RB, Buffalo Bills Thomas fell to the second round in 1988 because personnel evaluators believed he didn’t run fast enough after a knee injury. All Thomas did was become one of the most versatile backs in NFL history and make the Pro Football Hall of Fame 2-Shannon Sharpe, TE, Denver Broncos Sharpe fell to the seventh round of the 1990 draft because teams weren’t sure if he was going to be able to play wide receiver or tight end at the NFL level. Sharpe wound up not just playing tight end. He became a movable chess piece in Denver’s offense for years and earned induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1-Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots Scouts said Brady didn’t have a good arm, was too slow and wasn’t going to be anything more than a backup after being selected in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL draft. Instead, he took over the starting job during his second season and has gone on to win three Super Bowls, two Super Bowl MVP awards and countless other honors\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/lists/Top-10-NFL-Draft-steals-all-time-022411#tab=photo-title=&photo= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Terrell Davis was a beast. He invented the term "running down hill", maybe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Here is my Top Draft Steals for the Cleveland Browns since 1970: 1971 Doug Dieken 6th round 1972 Brian Sipe 13th round 1973 Greg Pruitt 2nd round 1975 Dick Ambrose 12th round 1978 Ozzie Newsome 1st round , 23rd overall 1979 Cody Risien 7th round 1981 Eddie Johnson 7th round 1982 Mike Baab 5th round 1983 Paul Farren 12th round 1984 Ernest Byner 10th round 1985 Reggie Langhorne 7th round 1988 Michael Dean Perry 2nd round, 50th overall 1990 Rob Burnett 5th round 1990 Anthony Pleasant 3rd round 2001 Anthony Henry 4th round 2008 Ahtyba Rubin 6th round Couldn't find much to crow about during the Belichick/Lombardi era. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Earnest Byner, 10th round 1984 Brian Sipe, 13th round 1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I believe Winn in the 6th will go down as a hell of a steal for us. Gordon in the second as well, kid is showing that he would have gone in the top 15 without the OTF issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I believe Winn in the 6th will go down as a hell of a steal for us. Gordon in the second as well, kid is showing that he would have gone in the top 15 without the OTF issues About half of last years class we haven't even seen yet so you never know who might step up and start making plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 10-Marques Colston, WR, New Orleans Saints The big receiver was supposed to be too slow, yet all he has done since being selected in the seventh round in 2006 is score 40 touchdowns and become one of the better young receivers in the league. Colston has proved you don’t have to post a great 40-yard dash time to become a good receiver 9-T.J. Houshmandzadeh, WR, Cincinnati Bengals When the Bengals selected him in the seventh round in 2001, much of the attention was focused on his former college teammate, Chud Ochocinco, who was selected in the second round by Cincinnati. But Houshmandzadeh wound up making the roster that year. He caught 31 touchdowns and posted 506 receptions during his eight seasons with the Bengals. 8-Jamal Anderson, RB, Atlanta Falcons A seventh-round pick in the 1994 draft, he didn’t do much in his first few seasons but wound up winning the starting job in Year 3. Anderson went on to score 34 touchdowns on the ground and ran for over 5,300 yards during his eight-year career 7-Terrell Davis, RB, Denver Broncos When the Broncos selected Davis in the sixth round in 1995, not much was expected since he wasn’t known for possessing ideal speed for the position. But Davis wound up winning the starting running back job that season and went on to post 60 touchdowns and over 7,600 yards on the ground during his seven-year career 6-Will Shields, G, Kansas City Chiefs Shields will go down as one of the best third-round picks in the past 25 years or so. The interior offensive lineman didn’t miss a game in his 14-year career and started all but one after being drafted in 1993. He’s a lock to make the Pro Football Hall of Fame 5-Ronde Barber, CB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers The veteran defensive back has sustained unbelievable durability and a high level of play since he was selected in the third round in 1997. Barber, who recently signed a one-year deal to remain with the Buccaneers, has started an incredible 183 straight games 4-Zach Thomas, LB, Miami Dolphins This fifth-round pick in the 1996 draft not only wound up making the roster coming out of the preseason that year but won a starting job. He was one of the best inside linebackers on any team during his 13-year 3-Thurman Thomas, RB, Buffalo Bills Thomas fell to the second round in 1988 because personnel evaluators believed he didn’t run fast enough after a knee injury. All Thomas did was become one of the most versatile backs in NFL history and make the Pro Football Hall of Fame 2-Shannon Sharpe, TE, Denver Broncos Sharpe fell to the seventh round of the 1990 draft because teams weren’t sure if he was going to be able to play wide receiver or tight end at the NFL level. Sharpe wound up not just playing tight end. He became a movable chess piece in Denver’s offense for years and earned induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1-Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots Scouts said Brady didn’t have a good arm, was too slow and wasn’t going to be anything more than a backup after being selected in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL draft. Instead, he took over the starting job during his second season and has gone on to win three Super Bowls, two Super Bowl MVP awards and countless other honors\ Sorry, you missed one- Joe Montana, third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Here is my Top Draft Steals for the Cleveland Browns since 1970: 1971 Doug Dieken 6th round 1972 Brian Sipe 13th round 1973 Greg Pruitt 2nd round 1975 Dick Ambrose 12th round 1978 Ozzie Newsome 1st round , 23rd overall 1979 Cody Risien 7th round 1981 Eddie Johnson 7th round 1982 Mike Baab 5th round 1983 Paul Farren 12th round 1984 Ernest Byner 10th round 1985 Reggie Langhorne 7th round 1988 Michael Dean Perry 2nd round, 50th overall 1990 Rob Burnett 5th round 1990 Anthony Pleasant 3rd round 2001 Anthony Henry 4th round 2008 Ahtyba Rubin 6th round Couldn't find much to crow about during the Belichick/Lombardi era. Zombo I'd add Andra Davis, 2002 5th round, started 83 games for the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Sorry, you missed one- Joe Montana, third round. That's who I was thinking of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I think I can do better than y'all have with these: Roosevelt Brown 321st pick, 27th round Giants 1953 Raymond Berry 232d pick, 20th round, 1954 Colts Andy Robustelli, 228th pick, 19th round Rams 1951 Chris Hanburger, 245th pick, 18th round, Redskins 1965 Bart Starr, 200th pick, 17th round, Packers 1956 Willie Davis, 181st pick, 15th round Browns 1956 Deacon Jones, 186th pick, 14th round Rams 1961 Roger Staubach, 129th pick, 10th round Cowboys 1964 John Unitas, 102d pick, 9th round, Steelers 1955 Shannon Sharpe, 192d pick, 7th round Broncos 1990 Even Better yet are all these guys: John Randle Warren Moon Jim Langer Willie Brown Willie Wood Dick "Night Train" Lane All of the above were Undrafted Free Agents that any team could have picked up. Every person mentioned above is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame The Hell of it is that the Browns owned the rights to both Willie Davis and Jim Langer and just let them go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 However, note this: the Browns did pick up the following players who also went undrafted by the NFL: Frank Gatski Lou Groza Marion Motley Bill Willis again, every one a Hall of Famer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 As you may know, Tom Brady was the 199th pick in the 2000 draft and is a sure fire Hall of Famer. The ONLY players in the Hall of Fame in history that were drafted lower, by pick number, than Brady are as follows: Bart Starr #200 Richard Dent #203 Ken Houston #214 Andy Robustelli #228 Raymond Berry #232 Chris Hanburger #245 Roosevelt Brown #321 And the group which I referenced before of the street FAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 NFL.com says Kurt Warner is the best undrafted player ever. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d816fb4f0&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true Arguably, perhaps. Put him against the guys I mentioned in the previous couple of posts and let them duke it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years: Galen Fiss #155 1953 Bernie Parish #108 1958 Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years) Leroy Kelly #110 1964 Jack Gregory #139 1966 Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years) Walt Sumner #176 1969 Doug Dieken #142 1971 Brian Sipe #330 1972 Dick Ambrose #290 1975 Cody Risien #183 1979 Steve Cox #134 1981 Mike Baab #115 1982 Paul Farren #316 1983 Brian Brennan #104 1984 Ernest Byner #280 1984 Reggie Langhorne #175 1985 Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers) Rob Burnett #129 1990 Aaron Shea #110 2000 Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003 Lawrence Vickers #180 2006 Aytaba Rubin #190 2008 Others of note: Don Shula #110 1951 Chuck Noll #239 1953 John Havlicek #95 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Quality players that the Browns have taken at draft position 100 or lower over the years: Galen Fiss #155 1953 Bernie Parish #108 1958 Fred Cox #110 1961 (kicker for Vikings for over 15 years) Leroy Kelly #110 1964 Jack Gregory #139 1966 Ben Davis #439...yes #439 1967 (played DB for Browns for 10 years) Walt Sumner #176 1969 Doug Dieken #142 1971 Brian Sipe #330 1972 Dick Ambrose #290 1975 Cody Risien #183 1979 Steve Cox #134 1981 Mike Baab #115 1982 Paul Farren #316 1983 Brian Brennan #104 1984 Ernest Byner #280 1984 Reggie Langhorne #175 1985 Frank Winters #276 1987 (played 15 years, mostly with Packers) Rob Burnett #129 1990 Aaron Shea #110 2000 Ryan Pontbrian #142 2003 Lawrence Vickers #180 2006 Aytaba Rubin #190 2008 Others of note: Don Shula #110 1951 Chuck Noll #239 1953 John Havlicek #95 1962 Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ... Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Boy, we stole Aaron Shea ... Zombo Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he? http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Are you being sarcastic? I thought he played pretty decently for the Browns for a while, didn't he? http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SheaAa00.htm Here are his stats. I guess they are not that great. 4th round seems about right at best. Yes, I was being sarcastic. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Yes, I was being sarcastic. Zombo So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 On my list I missed Eddie Johnson, taken with pick #187 in 1981. So definitely include him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 So? You don't consider Aaron Shea a "Quality player"? I guess he was halfway decent at best...and I may have been trying to stretch it a little. I'm saying that snaring Aaron Shea with the 110th pick in the draft was not really much of a feather in our cap. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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