hoorta Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Mike Peen and Cal are correct. I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback. And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job. Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice. WSS I've seen mocks with us taking McCarron with Indy's pick. I'm fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I've seen mocks with us taking McCarron with Indy's pick. I'm fine with that. I'd honestly rather mccarron than any of shep's sexy pics. The only two QBs I'm really interested in are mccarron and manziel and I'm on the fence on manziel. The others I think of as fad picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'd honestly rather mccarron than any of shep's sexy pics. The only two QBs I'm really interested in are mccarron and manziel and I'm on the fence on manziel. The others I think of as fad picks. Yep. I don't think any are worth a trade up.I do trust our folks to get the right guy, but I'm hoping for Hoyer to have a complete recovery. I could live very well with a Hoyer & McCarron duo. Manziel bothers me somewhat, but DAMN, that kid makes stuff happen! We'll see............ Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'd honestly rather... shep's sexy pics. You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key... +10000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Mike Peen and Cal are correct. I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback. And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job. Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice. WSS Agree 1000% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Let's roll with Hoyer...Shore up LB and secondary with those pics..BUT...Snag a good WR if one is there by draft or FA....Let's do this Cleveland!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 only sexy pick i'd want at QB is mariota and i wouldn't be willing to trade a bunch of picks to ensure we snag him. get the CB, LB WR or OL then worry about QB with the second pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Is an all A&M 1st round feasible?....Evans & Manziel? It's fun watching all these guys, but we'll just have to wait & see what REALLY happens. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key... nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunDawg Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Both the Hoyer and Campbell insertions have clearly shown that even an average QB can elevate this team. Not sure who will pan out, but the hyped QB class of 2013 has bust written ALL over it. I personally don't have the time to watch all the college games, but the one's I have watched haven't impressed me that much. Most of these guys are throwing to wide open receivers. Who among them is throwing BEFORE they are open? That is the guy I want. That is what is required to succeed in the NFL, you must anticipate the break and throw to the spot. Who is doing this the best at the college level right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Did today just prove that Hoyer isn't necessarily that great, but that any decent thinking QB can have success in our system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Still feel a lot better about Hoyer but Campbell can get us through this year to a decent (not playoffs) record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Did today just prove that Hoyer isn't necessarily that great, but that any decent thinking QB can have success in our system? I notice that when the defense steps up your chances of winning improve greatly as well. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I notice that when the defense steps up your chances of winning improve greatly as well. WSS Possibly they feed of the success of the O? I think they did yesterday at any rate. I am not going to say Bess lost the game, but his tragic play was hard to overcome that late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Possibly they feed of the success of the O? I think they did yesterday at any rate. I am not going to say Bess lost the game, but his tragic play was hard to overcome that late in the game.Possible? Sure but that's their job whether or not theyre inspired.I think that it may be that Kansas City has been over rated all season and lucky to be eight and 0. Probably we should have beaten the fuckers. Good that we held them to field goals when we did but not necessarily good to let them march down the field as often as they did. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Possible? Sure but that's their job whether or not theyre inspired. I think that it may be that Kansas City has been over rated all season and lucky to be eight and 0. Probably we should have beaten the fuckers. Good that we held them to field goals when we did but not necessarily good to let them march down the field as often as they did. WSS It was a bit reminiscent of Dick Jauron's bend-not-break defence, not the aggressive, turnover causing D we were told to expect from Ray Horton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Did today just prove that Hoyer isn't necessarily that great, but that any decent thinking QB can have success in our system? On part one... I don't think so. I never felt the energy in Campbell Offense that I did during Hoyer time. Execution seemed to be much crisper under Hoyer. As for part two... Success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 I really enjoyed Hoyer. I thought it might be the story of this season, the thing that made it fun and special. What a shitty thing to happen. I like so much about him: Decisive, mobile, quick release, underrated arm, teammates dig him. Upside: He'll be a Brown next year. He'll rehab, compete, etc. I think he felt the love and his brief experience will make him even more confident. He can be a good quarterback in this league. Downside: He turns 29 in October, he's coming off major knee surgery, and he has like 4 starts in his life. There's not a chance in hell that the Browns will take a pass on drafting a quarterback in the top 10-ish. BUT... maybe Hoyer pulls a Brees. Maybe he keeps Manziel on the bench (or whoever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 On part one... I don't think so. I never felt the energy in Campbell Offense that I did during Hoyer time. Execution seemed to be much crisper under Hoyer. As for part two... Success? Success in the sense that it wasn't his fault we lost. That's success in Cleveland, as of late. It's quite sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Yup... Downside: He turns 29 in October, he's coming off major knee surgery, and he has like 4 starts in his life. Somehow his age would make his success all the sweeter... And it would allow us to "raise" his replacement. Was Aaron Rodgers the last successful QB to sit and learn for at least a full season? Seems like sink or swim in the deep end is much more prevalent now than it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Yup... Somehow his age would make his success all the sweeter... And it would allow us to "raise" his replacement. Was Aaron Rodgers the last successful QB to sit and learn for at least a full season? Seems like sink or swim in the deep end is much more prevalent now than it used to be. I don't like it one bit. Rookie QB should get 1 year minimum to sit and learn. The speed of the game from CFB to NFL doesn't compare and most people don't understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Kaepernick sat for a season or two did good for him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Is it really Hoyer was that GOOD? Or, Weeden was that BAD? I say the 2nd. Can't wait to see if we can get a game changer at QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Is it really Hoyer was that GOOD? Or, Weeden was that BAD? I say the 2nd. Can't wait to see if we can get a game changer at QB... I'd say he looked atleast top 15 don't ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 He's just right for that role. Stop making me agree with you all the time. I think we're drafting Manziel. Yup... Somehow his age would make his success all the sweeter... And it would allow us to "raise" his replacement. Was Aaron Rodgers the last successful QB to sit and learn for at least a full season? Seems like sink or swim in the deep end is much more prevalent now than it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 He's just right for that role. Stop making me agree with you all the time. I think we're drafting Manziel. Please God I hope you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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